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CRUELTY FREE PRODUCTS

FiftyShadesofLove — Tue, 07 Jul 2015 01:29:04 GMT

When are you going to request all your beauty product vendors to be verified as "Cruelty Free"? More and more consumers are demanding products that comply with ethical and environmental standards... I hope to see more and more products that are but until then I will only buy Tarte, Josie Maran and Wen.. Keep the public up-to-date on this topic!

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HappyDaze — Tue, 07 Jul 2015 01:45:12 GMT

Just an FYI, Tarte is now owned by a company that tests on animals. I don't know if you are trying to avoid all companies owned by companies that test or just brands that state they don't test even if their parent company (i.e. the company that owns them) does.

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NYwoman — Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:15:34 GMT

I think that Tatcha is also cruelty free, but I should recheck that first.

Isn't it interesting that hosts that promote themselves as animal advocates push products that toture dogs and rabbits?

QVC needs to tell us what peoducts are cruelty free and which ones are made in the US.

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beastielove — Tue, 07 Jul 2015 14:20:54 GMT

I strongly suggest that any of you who want to know which companies are truly cruelty free and and which one's aren't or are owned by parent companies that DO torture and kill animals in the name of beauty...that you go to my beauty bunny dot com.

You can also get information regarding cruelty free househould cleaning products (they DO exist!).

While you're there, sign up for their newsletters (I did this several years ago) and you'll receive reviews of all of the latest CRUELTY FREE beauty products. There's a ton of them on the market! The latest newsletter also included recipes for DIY hairmaks using fruits,veggies,honey,eggs and oils. :-)

In regards to Tarte...even though those products are cruelty free...the Japanese company that Maureen Kelly sold Tarte to, KOSE, is pro animal testing.When I found that out I stopped buying Tarte because I knew that the profits would be going into KOSE's coffers.

Hope this information helped. :-)

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mrs Phillips — Tue, 07 Jul 2015 16:37:34 GMT

Wow! Tarte was one of my go to products. I cannot believe they are no longer cruelty free. Is that why Maureen Kelly is no longer the spokesperson? Again, I guess enough money and principles go out the window. I just ordered something from Tarte and I will be sending it back! I have wondered for a long time why no one is allowed to say that their products are cruelty free. Don't forget IT and Josie Maran, strong cruelty free products. I think Laura Geller is as well. You know, Philosophy is not cruelty free, nor is Bobbi

Brown or Stri Vectin to name a few. Please think before you buy!!!

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FiftyShadesofLove — Tue, 07 Jul 2015 20:40:35 GMT

I didn't know Tarte wasn't!.. Bummer!.. Won't be buying that anymore! Why is it that they are not pushing for these companies to be compliant with Cruelty Free? Why not making it a "must"!? QVC is time that you step it up and demand that from your vendors, unless... you don't care!!!

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FiftyShadesofLove — Tue, 07 Jul 2015 20:43:32 GMT

I didn't know.. On their website they claim the "bunny" cruelty free logo and the vegan logo too... I need to check with them directly.. They are one of my favorite products along with Josie and Wen.. Didn't know about IT Cosmetics though! I know Philosophy is not and that's why I kicked them to the curb!

Let's make a lot of noise about this subject.. It's about time that those that claim to be animal lovers truly show it by not hurting animals in the name of beauty or else!

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HappyDaze — Tue, 07 Jul 2015 21:11:14 GMT

As I said in my op, Tarte claims to be cruelty free still, yes, but my point is that the company that owns them still tests on animals. Some are fine with that as long as the brand that they use claims to be cruelty free, while others still prefer not to use brands owned by companies that continue to test on animals. It is just a personal choice we all have to make. I firmly believe (and know based on studies and in speaking with some company sources) that parent companies share the information from animal testing with their lines that claim the "cruelty free" title.

My personal feeling on the matter is that buying from a brand that is owned by a company that still tests is still putting money in the pockets of those that are testing on animals (ie torturing them) and I can not, with good conscience, continue to support that. The only way these companies will truly become cruelty free is if we speak with our $$ and not just voices.

ETA: I was definitely disappointed to know Maureen sold her company to a company that tests on animals. It was disheartening. But again, $$ talks.

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HappyDaze — Tue, 07 Jul 2015 20:52:53 GMT

@NYwoman wrote:
I think that Tatcha is also cruelty free, but I should recheck that first.

Isn't it interesting that hosts that promote themselves as animal advocates push products that toture dogs and rabbits?

QVC needs to tell us what peoducts are cruelty free and which ones are made in the US.

Yes, Tatcha is.

What bothers me more than the hosts pushing the products are supposed celebrity animal lover/advocates, like Ellen Degeneres and Drew Barrymore. Both were (still are?) Cover Girl "faces" and Cover Girl has never been cruelty free. Sad that the almighty buck matters more than animal torture.

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sandraskates — Tue, 07 Jul 2015 22:23:53 GMT

@HappyDaze wrote:
@NYwoman wrote:
I think that Tatcha is also cruelty free, but I should recheck that first.

Isn't it interesting that hosts that promote themselves as animal advocates push products that toture dogs and rabbits?

QVC needs to tell us what peoducts are cruelty free and which ones are made in the US.

Yes, Tatcha is.

What bothers me more than the hosts pushing the products are supposed celebrity animal lover/advocates, like Ellen Degeneres and Drew Barrymore. Both were (still are?) Cover Girl "faces" and Cover Girl has never been cruelty free. Sad that the almighty buck matters more than an

Hi HappyDaze,

Drew Barrymore has own company now called Flower Beauty. It's available at Wal-Mart. Her website says that the cosmetics are made in the USA and are never tested on animals.

In this day and age I don't see why any cosmetic ingredient has to be tested on animals. I too search out the cruety free items but sometimes you really have to dig for info and I know there are times i've been unsuccessful.

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HappyDaze — Tue, 07 Jul 2015 22:42:32 GMT

@sandraskates wrote:
@HappyDaze wrote:
@NYwoman wrote:
I think that Tatcha is also cruelty free, but I should recheck that first.

Isn't it interesting that hosts that promote themselves as animal advocates push products that toture dogs and rabbits?

QVC needs to tell us what peoducts are cruelty free and which ones are made in the US.

Yes, Tatcha is.

What bothers me more than the hosts pushing the products are supposed celebrity animal lover/advocates, like Ellen Degeneres and Drew Barrymore. Both were (still are?) Cover Girl "faces" and Cover Girl has never been cruelty free. Sad that the almighty buck matters more than an
Hi HappyDaze,

Drew Barrymore has own company now called Flower Beauty. It's available at Wal-Mart. Her website says that the cosmetics are made in the USA and are never tested on animals.

In this day and age I don't see why any cosmetic ingredient has to be tested on animals. I too search out the cruety free items but sometimes you really have to dig for info and I know there are times i've been unsuccessful.

Yep I know she has the FLower line now, I've tried a few of the products in the past. But prior to that, she was the face of Cover Girl.

And I agree, sometimes you really have to dig. With all the awarenes of animal cruelty and the fact that we really do not need to test on animals these days with the technology we have and the fact that many animals do not have the same or similar metabolic functioning and biological pathways we have. So just because it shows "safe" on animals does NOT mean that it will be "safe" for us, hence the reason people still have reactions to products!

Here is an example. There are some human medications that we can safely give to animals, some we cannot. We canot give animals ibuprofen, for example, but we can give them oemprazole (antacid). While many human medications we can give them we dose out based on the human dosage on the packaging, there are some that we use ALOT more than the human dosaging because animals metabolize the product differently then we do. For example, we give oemprazole (antiacid product) as the same human dosage but for certain allergy medications, like cetirizine (generic for Zyrtec), we have to triple or quadruple the does for the dog!

Anyway, it just makes no sense in this day and age to torture animals for silly beauty products.

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FiftyShadesofLove — Thu, 09 Jul 2015 14:20:04 GMT

I'm with you 1000%.!!! No more Tarte for me either.. I know they were bought out I think by Shiseido.. When I see what animals have to suffer not only for the beauty industry but all industries (entertainment, food, pharma) it makes me want to run away!.. I encourage everyone out there, if you are on the fence, watch some of the undercover videos on You Tube or go to MercyforAnimals.com and check out how a lot of sweet creatures have to go thru... you will never be the same!

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FiftyShadesofLove — Wed, 15 Jul 2015 13:12:48 GMT

I wanted to give you an update about Tarte Cosmetics. I contacted them to confirm that they belong to a bigger corporation today. I also asked them if this company is cruelty free. They gave me the runaround. Saying that Tarte is committed to stay cruelty free but never denied or confirmed if the KOSE (mother company) is cruelty free for which I conclude they are not... It is sad that Maureen doesn't seem to be bothered by this and that she is now part of an organization that doesn't respect the lives of animals. That's is for me with Tarte!

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HappyDaze — Wed, 15 Jul 2015 16:59:09 GMT

@FiftyShadesofLove wrote:
I wanted to give you an update about Tarte Cosmetics. I contacted them to confirm that they belong to a bigger corporation today. I also asked them if this company is cruelty free. They gave me the runaround. Saying that Tarte is committed to stay cruelty free but never denied or confirmed if the KOSE (mother company) is cruelty free for which I conclude they are not... It is sad that Maureen doesn't seem to be bothered by this and that she is now part of an organization that doesn't respect the lives of animals. That's is for me with Tarte!

It is unfortunate when companies are not honest and upfront. When contacting companies, I often get the ruanaround- 3 paragraphs of patting themselves on the back for "talking" to other countries about animal testing yadda yadda and then the final fourth paragraph- finally- about how they don't test except where required by law. The point is, they have a CHOICE whether or not to sell to those countried that "require it by law" but the $$ speaks louder than the ethical issue.

No country will abolish the practice if companie still continue to sell to them- why would they? Just like QVC won't offer us coupon codes when they are making bank without offering them. Until we speak more with our $$$ and than simply our words, nothing will change.

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Drythe — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 06:22:48 GMT

I use (and love) WEN products. It makes me so happy that Chaz cares enough about animals to assure the products he makes are cruelty free - both horizontally and vertically.

They are Leaping Bunny Certified.

I am glad this product is available on the Q.

The issue of Animal cruelty is a subject near and dear to my heart.

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beastielove — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 12:31:45 GMT

beastielove wrote:
I strongly suggest that any of you who want to know which companies are truly cruelty free and and which one's aren't or are owned by parent companies that DO torture and kill animals in the name of beauty...that you go to my beauty bunny dot com.

You can also get information regarding cruelty free househould cleaning products (they DO exist!).

While you're there, sign up for their newsletters (I did this several years ago) and you'll receive reviews of all of the latest CRUELTY FREE beauty products. There's a ton of them on the market! The latest newsletter also included recipes for DIY hairmaks using fruits,veggies,honey,eggs and oils. :-)

In regards to Tarte...even though those products are cruelty free...the Japanese company that Maureen Kelly sold Tarte to, KOSE, is pro animal testing.When I found that out I stopped buying Tarte because I knew that the profits would be going into KOSE's coffers.

Hope this information helped. :-)
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All of my children have paws =^..^=

I'm forwarding my post from last week for those who have posted since and may not have seen it. Once again I want to highly recommend that you go to the my beauty bunny dot com site.

There's a wealth of information there regarding which companies are cruelty free, which aren't and which companies (like Tarte) who make cruelty free products are owned by a parent company that does test on animals.

For many years I was buying the St Ives products...then I found out that UNILEVER (which does test on animals) bought them so I kicked that brand to the curb ASAP. FYI...Cover Girl cosmestics are owned by UNILEVER.

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All of my children have paws =^..^=

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HappyDaze — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:21:12 GMT

@beastielove wrote:

I'm forwarding my post from last week for those who have posted since and may not have seen it. Once again I want to highly recommend that you go to the my beauty bunny dot com site.

There's a wealth of information there regarding which companies are cruelty free, which aren't and which companies (like Tarte) who make cruelty free products are owned by a parent company that does test on animals.

For many years I was buying the St Ives products...then I found out that UNILEVER (which does test on animals) bought them so I kicked that brand to the curb ASAP. FYI...Cover Girl cosmestics are owned by UNILEVER.

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All of my children have paws =^..^=

Cover girl is actually owned by Proctor and Gamble (which also tests) but is being sold to Coty, which also tests.

Ive been buying cruelty free and "natural" household cleansers for a few years now. There are many choices out there, including some at your local Costco.

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FlowershopGirl — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 21:04:13 GMT

The Beagle Freedom Project also has an app you can purchase for a very minimal fee (I think I paid $2.99 for it) and you can use it when you are in a store to see if it does indeed test on animals. They are dedicated to stopping testing on animals and they utilize all of the good ways to lobby for this to end. Unlike PETA, who resort to bad ideas, they are trying to stop it and remain ethical and legal. The app works pretty well. I also know that HSN's Serious Skin Care is a leaping bunny approved company. Household products that are cruelty free and very good products at cleaning are Seventh Generation items. The cleaning products work just as well as the top brands do.

Jason is a good brand that is cruelty free. Finding makeup that is cruelty free is a bit harder because its subjective since everyone likes the way a certain product lies on their skin, colors, etc.

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HappyDaze — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 21:27:37 GMT

@FlowershopGirl wrote:
The Beagle Freedom Project also has an app you can purchase for a very minimal fee (I think I paid $2.99 for it) and you can use it when you are in a store to see if it does indeed test on animals. They are dedicated to stopping testing on animals and they utilize all of the good ways to lobby for this to end. Unlike PETA, who resort to bad ideas, they are trying to stop it and remain ethical and legal. The app works pretty well. I also know that HSN's Serious Skin Care is a leaping bunny approved company. Household products that are cruelty free and very good products at cleaning are Seventh Generation items. The cleaning products work just as well as the top brands do.

Jason is a good brand that is cruelty free. Finding makeup that is cruelty free is a bit harder because its subjective since everyone likes the way a certain product lies on their skin, colors, etc.

Can you tell me if an app like this lets you know when a company is owned by a parent company that tests? For example, if it doesn't, then it would say that Tarte was cruelty free but for those of us who truly want to go cruelty free, this isn't the whole truth. I've been hesitant about relying on apps and websites like this since many do not mention the parent company's status, only what the particular brand claims. TIA!

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FlowershopGirl — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 22:16:16 GMT

@HappyDaze wrote:
@FlowershopGirl wrote:
The Beagle Freedom Project also has an app you can purchase for a very minimal fee (I think I paid $2.99 for it) and you can use it when you are in a store to see if it does indeed test on animals. They are dedicated to stopping testing on animals and they utilize all of the good ways to lobby for this to end. Unlike PETA, who resort to bad ideas, they are trying to stop it and remain ethical and legal. The app works pretty well. I also know that HSN's Serious Skin Care is a leaping bunny approved company. Household products that are cruelty free and very good products at cleaning are Seventh Generation items. The cleaning products work just as well as the top brands do.

Jason is a good brand that is cruelty free. Finding makeup that is cruelty free is a bit harder because its subjective since everyone likes the way a certain product lies on their skin, colors, etc.

Can you tell me if an app like this lets you know when a company is owned by a parent company that tests? For example, if it doesn't, then it would say that Tarte was cruelty free but for those of us who truly want to go cruelty free, this isn't the whole truth. I've been hesitant about relying on apps and websites like this since many do not mention the parent company's status, only what the particular brand claims. TIA!

Yes, from when I have used it, it does and it accesses both PETA and Leaping Bunny as well as many other sites for up-to-date info on every product, not just what the brand claims. Here is some info from their site:

CRUELTY-CUTTER is cruelty-free shopping made simple! Cast-away any doubts when purchasing items by using this app to scan an item and have an immediate response about it’s animal-testing status. Cruelty-Cutter has every company in the "Leaping Bunny" and PETA lists and thousands more. It is the most up-to-date and vigilant cruelty-free list on the market.

Cruelty-Cutter is your activist app! Share your results with friends on social media and also share your concern or praise with the company itself. Companies that still choose to test on animals will get the message that Cruelty-Cutter users are against what they are doing! The more shares, the more “Doggie Dollars” you earn towards coupons for cruelty-free items!

Cruelty-Cutter lets you register your concern and help collect data to bring to companies that test on animals to show them that the public is not interested in supporting companies that continue to use animals when it is not needed.

You can download the app from their site at cruelty-cutter.org.