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Oh No! My new dog has a "hotspot"

RinaRina — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 22:25:59 GMT

My dog has a huge ugly "hotspot" on his throat.

What the heck!!?

I went to the vet TWICE yesterday (64 miles round-trip) and again today because my dog removed the protective collar. I've NEVER heard of hotspots on dogs. Have you? If your dog has ever had "hotspots", HOW did you make him stop scratching? I just started feeding him Omega 3's and coconut oil. HOPE that helps...

He was fine when I adopted him 2 weeks ago. I'm wondering if the flea medicine made him "itchy"? I also stopped feeding him tripe because that's when the itchiness started.

That sore is nasty looking. Looks to me like he needs anti-biotics, but the Vet said, "not necessary".

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colliegirls — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 22:48:26 GMT

Two of our dogs used to get hot spots. One got so bad that he got a shot from the vet and it cleared up right away.

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birkin baby — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 22:54:30 GMT

My beagle has two on his tail. The vet said bathe every other day with Malaseb shampoo. I also lightly spray a mix of the gold listerine and water 50/50 on his tail if he starts to scratch. That seems to offer some relief. It's antifungal and if he licked it it won't kill him. Good luck and how AWESOME that you adopted a dog.

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RinaRina — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 22:55:35 GMT

@colliegirls wrote:
Two of our dogs used to get hot spots. One got so bad that he got a shot from the vet and it cleared up right away.

A shot? Of what? Cortizone?

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maestra — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 22:56:30 GMT

Rina, not a snark but why was your dog eating tripe? I ask only b/c we adopted a rescue 5 weeks ago and one of the 1st things we did was to take a look at better quality nutrition.

I'm not a vet but I'd stop any topical flea TX-we have always used Trifexis/Comfortis for flea and heartworm prevention. Take a look at the food your pup is eating. We go for grain free but not too fatty. Salmon, which is a hot protein (not good for summer weather) is better for allergies.

We have been feeding our dog Red, Taste of the Wild waterfowl protein, in dry kibbles. Waterfowl is a cool protein. Adding a teaspoon of canned pumpkin-just pumpkin no spices for pumpkin pie, to the kibbles adds a little fiber to help prevent colitis (cocker spaniels have GI problems). Merrick, Blue Buffalo (Red didnt like it) are also good dry kibble.

Change over to new kibble slowly-take about 10 days-2 weeks. hth.

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nunya — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 23:02:36 GMT

Sounds like he is scratching at his collar and making him raw.

I use an ointment called NuStock. Stinks like sulphur but can cure many skins conditions in horses and dogs

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RinaRina — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 23:06:30 GMT

I'm racking my brain, trying to figure out WHY this happened. The dog was fine when I got him.

The vet gave me heartworm med and flea & tick med but I did NOT dispense on the same day. I gave my dog the heartworm on Wednesday and the flea & tick on Thursday.

Maybe it was a bad chemical reaction?

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Kjelle — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 23:04:49 GMT

I know a lot of people hate to hear about WEN, but hot spots are one of the reasons that WEN Pets was formulated. You might try it. Also, although the price looks high, you mix it with water and depending on the size of your dog, you might be in the same place financially, especially considering if you don't find a different way to eradicate the hot spots, you will have a vet bill. Could be worth checking out. I hope your dog is better soon, whatever you choose.

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colliegirls — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 23:11:37 GMT

@RinaRina wrote:
@colliegirls wrote:
Two of our dogs used to get hot spots. One got so bad that he got a shot from the vet and it cleared up right away.
A shot? Of what? Cortizone?

I wish I could remember. He was a precious sheltie rescue who passed about a year ago. One flea bite would tear up his skin.

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RinaRina — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 23:21:49 GMT

@maestra wrote:
Rina, not a snark but why was your dog eating tripe? I ask only b/c we adopted a rescue 5 weeks ago and one of the 1st things we did was to take a look at better quality nutrition.

I'm not a vet but I'd stop any topical flea TX-we have always used Trifexis/Comfortis for flea and heartworm prevention. Take a look at the food your pup is eating. We go for grain free but not too fatty. Salmon, which is a hot protein (not good for summer weather) is better for allergies.

We have been feeding our dog Red, Taste of the Wild waterfowl protein, in dry kibbles. Waterfowl is a cool protein. Adding a teaspoon of canned pumpkin-just pumpkin no spices for pumpkin pie, to the kibbles adds a little fiber to help prevent colitis (cocker spaniels have GI problems). Merrick, Blue Buffalo (Red didnt like it) are also good dry kibble.

Change over to new kibble slowly-take about 10 days-2 weeks. hth.

It's "green" tripe. Dogs love it! I also feed the tripe treats called "Barkworthy". Not cheap either.

Was giving him Merrick's Salmon & Sweet potato, but stopped. (process of elimination).

Now, I'm only feeding FROMM's grain-free kibble and Nulo Freestyle (canned).

He's finally stopped scratching his entire body and is now only trying to scratch the sore on his neck, which is understandable, since "scabs" do tend to itch.

I've narrowed it down to 3 possibilities:

1. The tick/flea/heartworm combo - possible allergic reaction to too many drugs.

2. Tripe

3. Merrick's Salmon

I hope it's #1.

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June222 — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 23:28:20 GMT

medicated Gold Bond powder will help. Just sprinkle and rub into fur.

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JeanLouiseFinch — Thu, 03 Sep 2015 20:21:31 GMT

@maestra wrote:
Rina, not a snark but why was your dog eating tripe? I ask only b/c we adopted a rescue 5 weeks ago and one of the 1st things we did was to take a look at better quality nutrition.

I'm not a vet but I'd stop any topical flea TX-we have always used Trifexis/Comfortis for flea and heartworm prevention. Take a look at the food your pup is eating. We go for grain free but not too fatty. Salmon, which is a hot protein (not good for summer weather) is better for allergies.

We have been feeding our dog Red, Taste of the Wild waterfowl protein, in dry kibbles. Waterfowl is a cool protein. Adding a teaspoon of canned pumpkin-just pumpkin no spices for pumpkin pie, to the kibbles adds a little fiber to help prevent colitis (cocker spaniels have GI problems). Merrick, Blue Buffalo (Red didnt like it) are also good dry kibble.

Change over to new kibble slowly-take about 10 days-2 weeks. hth.

@maestra Why are you recommending that she stop the topical flea prevention? Because it's irritating to the skin or because the dog will lick it? I'm not sure I understand why this would be your recommendation for a hot spot?

When we adopted our dog, at the first vet appointment, Trifexis was recommended. Being new at everything, I went with the vet's recommendation. Then I read (a few times) from one of the resident dog experts here (don't remember her name, but don't see her here anymore) about the horrors of Trifexis and deaths occuring. It scared me enough to switch to the topical K-9 Advantix II (and Heartgard for heartworm prevention). My boy has been on the K-9 Advantix II year 'round ever since. I like that it provides more protection than most flea prevention medications and it's not ingested.

We feed dry Nature's Domain Turkey Formula. It's supposed to be Costco's private label of Taste of the Wild. My big boy loves it.

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GardeniaGal — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 23:33:03 GMT

My dog is prone to allergies in the spring and fall months. Ever since I switched him to Blue dog food, there has been a huge improvement. In fact, this year is the first in several that his allergies have acted up again, with itching and hot spots. His vet gave him a shot of cortizone, and said if his spots didn't improve, to bring him back. They're improving, so happily no retuen visit. I dont know if a cortizone shot would always be the first choice among Vets, but he's been seeing my dog for 11 years, and knows his history. Hope this helps.

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JeanLouiseFinch — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 23:35:50 GMT

Does anyone know if Dinovite is good for hot spots? I've heard commercials for it, but really haven't paid close attention to every detail. It sounds like it's a "good for what ails you" kind of thing for dogs.

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RinaRina — Thu, 03 Sep 2015 00:55:54 GMT

@JeanLouiseFinch wrote:

@maestra Why are you recommending that she stop the topical flea prevention?

BTW, the tick/flea treatment was a tablet, not topical. Product name: BRAVECTO by Merck. It protects for up to 12 weeks. I will NEVER give this to my dog again. The only reason Y I did this time, is because the Rescue counselor told me I "must" use a flea/tick preventative. I told her I never used it on my other dog, but she was adamant.

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JeanLouiseFinch — Thu, 03 Sep 2015 01:08:24 GMT

@RinaRina wrote:
@JeanLouiseFinch wrote:

@maestra Why are you recommending that she stop the topical flea prevention?

BTW, the tick/flea treatment was a tablet, not topical. Product name: BRAVECTO by Merck. It protects for up to 12 weeks. I will NEVER give this to my dog again. The only reason Y I did this time, is because the Rescue counselor told me I "must" use a flea/tick preventative. I told her I never used it on my other dog, but she was adamant.

Better safe than sorry, though @RinaRina. I strongly recommend K-9 Advantix II. Look it up and you'll see how well it protects for more than just fleas and ticks.

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nunya — Thu, 03 Sep 2015 01:14:08 GMT

@colliegirls wrote:
@RinaRina wrote:
@colliegirls wrote:
Two of our dogs used to get hot spots. One got so bad that he got a shot from the vet and it cleared up right away.
A shot? Of what? Cortizone?

I wish I could remember. He was a precious sheltie rescue who passed about a year ago. One flea bite would tear up his skin.

My dog is highly sensitive to fleas too. One bite and he licks and scratches himself raw.

Sorry about your pup, it's so hard - I don't think I can do it again after this, my dog will be 13.

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AnikaBrodie — Thu, 03 Sep 2015 12:18:52 GMT

One of our former dogs (a keeshond) had hot spots and we got supplements from Fosters and Smith that worked really well. Here is their website: www.drsfostersmith.com.

I don't recall the name of the product we used. You can just type in hot spots and it will bring up information/products for you to use.

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PINKdogWOOD — Thu, 03 Sep 2015 12:27:15 GMT

Oh Man, hot spots and pets - if you're not getting the proper care from your vet, I urge you to please take your baby to another vet. ANd it sounds like NOW is the time to do that especially if you've been twice in one day due to extreme itching and the vet is not doing anything for you or your pet.

Some years ago we had a beautiful oorang airedale, Clementine. One summer she had three hot spots and itched like you wouldn't believe. Luckily we have Ohio State Vet Clinic 8 minutes from us. We take all of our dogs there, and we took her. Hot spots were so bad, they shaved her fur, gave us a spray (which she hated), and a cream, AND put a cone on her for 2 weeks so that she wouldn't scratch anymore. What a process for her to heal. What a sight she was too. I'm not going into the ugly details but she finally got rid of them. Her fur grew back, she was okay. Poor baby, I felt so bad for her, I was in tears!!!!! We also went through 3 cones - yes 3 of them!!! She kept catching the edges on stuff and broke them. A very LONG 2 weeks!!! I had to take a week off work to stay with her just so I didn't have to crate her (because we crate our dogs while we're not home). The next week luckily for me and Clem a great friend of mine stayed with her while I was at work.

Please I beg you to take your dog elsewhere and get the help s/he needs. Don't let your current vet tell you your dog will be okay without giving him relief and comfort.

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AnikaBrodie — Thu, 03 Sep 2015 12:53:27 GMT

Foster&Smith have regular informational articles included in their catalog. Here is one on Hot Spots - Acute Moist Dermatitis. Hoping you find it helpful . Check their catalog on line for other articles related to allergies.

Description and cause

"... Also known as acute moist dermatitis, hot spots are usually a disease of dogs with long hair or those with dense undercoats. It is often caused by a local allergic reaction to a specific antigen. Insect bites, especially from fleas, are often found to be the cause.

Other causes of hot spots include:

Allergies: atopy (inhalant allergies) and food allergies
Mites: Sarcoptes scabei or Cheyletiella
Ear infections
Poor grooming
Burs or plant awns
Hip dysplasia or other types of arthritis and degenerative joint disease
****** gland disease

Hot spots are circular lesions, usually found on the head, over the hip and along the side of the chest. They will be moist, raw, inflamed and hairless, and can be quite painful. Animals usually lick, bite or scratch the area, and thus irritate the inflamed skin even more. In fact, hot spots are sometimes called 'pyotraumatic dermatitis' because the self-trauma is a major factor in the development of hot spots.

Hot Spots can change dramatically in size in a very brief period of time. What was the size of a quarter may easily be eight inches in diameter in six hours.

Occurrence

The lesions are rare in the colder temperatures of winter. They occur in equal frequency in both inside and outside dogs. Many dogs develop several of these lesions over the course of their lives. However, this is not a long-term disease. A lesion will suddenly appear, be treated and be gone in less than a week Another lesion will suddenly appear later the same summer, the next year or never be seen again on that dog.

Treatment

Treatment must be directed at stopping the growth of the hot spot and eliminating the cause. In many dogs the initial cause is fleas, but lesions below the ear often indicate an ear infection, those near the hip may be the result of an ****** gland infection, and so on. Whatever the cause, if it can be detected, it must be treated while the hot spot is being treated.

The first step in treating hot spots is clipping the hair over and surrounding the lesion. This allows air to get into the inflamed tissue and makes it easier to treat. The surface of the lesion is then cleaned with a non-irritating solution such as dilute Nolvasan solution. To help the lesion heal desiccating powders such as Burows solution (Domeboro powder and water) are often then applied. If the dog is very sensitive this may need to be done under sedation. In more severe cases the animal may be placed on oral antibiotics and given painkillers and anti-inflammatories such as buffered aspirin or steroids. (Do NOT give your cat aspirin unless prescribed by your veterinarian.)

We also need to prevent the dog from traumatizing the area even more. Elizabethan collars may be used if the lesion is on the top of the head, for instance. Nails can be clipped and socks can be put on the hind feet to reduce trauma from possible scratching.

Prevention

Many dogs that have repeated problems with hot spots can have the incidence greatly reduced by keeping their hair clipped short during summer, giving them frequent medicated baths and following a strict flea control program. Depending on the location of the hot spot, cleaning the ears regularly and expressing the ****** glands as needed may also be beneficial..."