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MODS please confirm what I was told while trying to order the Josie Maran TSV

icezeus — Sat, 18 May 2019 07:40:17 GMT

I just received a shock. I was trying to place an order through the automatic ordering system, and my pin was not being accepted. I held online for an operator who took my order but then was unable to complete the transaction due to the fact that their is an ingredient in the body butter that may cause cancer. QVC is unable to ship this product to California. I have purchased many of JM's products and never had a problem, and I have always assumed perhaps incorrectly that JM's products were natural.

If true shame on Josie and QVC.

Re: MODS please confirm what I was told while trying to order the Josie Maran TSV

dex — Sat, 18 May 2019 08:14:55 GMT

@icezeus Maybe it is the plastic container that is no longer safe.

Re: MODS please confirm what I was told while trying to order the Josie Maran TSV

Ketra — Sat, 18 May 2019 09:28:18 GMT

@icezeus wrote:
I just received a shock. I was trying to place an order through the automatic ordering system, and my pin was not being accepted. I held online for an operator who took my order but then was unable to complete the transaction due to the fact that their is an ingredient in the body butter that may cause cancer. QVC is unable to ship this product to California. I have purchased many of JM's products and never had a problem, and I have always assumed perhaps incorrectly that JM's products were natural.

If true shame on Josie and QVC.

@icezeus Natural ingredients in foods, cosmetics, pharmaceuticals means nothing. Beware foods that say natural flavorings. They can contain MSG, aluminum, anything. Only trust the companies that list all ingredients and don’t use such terms. Even some of those companies products contain harmful ingredients, but at least they list them individually. It’s sad, but if you really want to keep healthy these days you have to google questionable ingredients in all of the products you choose to buy. Even the drugs you are prescribed. Our FDA allows anything and everything in our foods, cosmetics, and drugs these days. It’s all about the money not our health. Good grief, you should read the ingredients in the food products here on QVC. Really bad stuff in many of their products.

Re: MODS please confirm what I was told while trying to order the Josie Maran TSV

Ketra — Sat, 18 May 2019 09:30:55 GMT

@dex wrote:
@icezeus Maybe it is the plastic container that is no longer safe.

@dex @icezeus No, it’s some of the ingredients. The only thing she sells that doesn’t have harmful ingredients is the pure 100% Argan oil.

Re: MODS please confirm what I was told while trying to order the Josie Maran TSV

Anonymous032819 — Sat, 18 May 2019 09:46:32 GMT

They are complying with the Prop.65 that was passed in the mid 1980's here in California.

If you go to www dot p65 warnings dot ca dot gov

Re: MODS please confirm what I was told while trying to order the Josie Maran TSV

Anonymous032819 — Sat, 18 May 2019 09:47:43 GMT

@Ketra wrote:
@dex wrote:
@icezeus Maybe it is the plastic container that is no longer safe.
@dex @icezeus No, it’s some of the ingredients. The only thing she sells that doesn’t have harmful ingredients is the pure 100% Argan oil.

Actually, @dex is right.

In order to get the Prop 65 warning label, the product OR the container that the product is in must contain one or more of over 900 cancer causing chemicals, even if that amount falls well within safety levels.

Re: MODS please confirm what I was told while trying to order the Josie Maran TSV

CherryHugs — Sat, 18 May 2019 10:34:45 GMT

wow we need to know more about this! I use her body butter daily.

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AuntG — Sat, 18 May 2019 10:47:45 GMT

What gives??? I use her stuff.

Re: MODS please confirm what I was told while trying to order the Josie Maran TSV

Ketra — Sat, 18 May 2019 11:33:52 GMT

@Anonymous032819 wrote:
@Ketra wrote:
@dex wrote:
@icezeus Maybe it is the plastic container that is no longer safe.
@dex @icezeus No, it’s some of the ingredients. The only thing she sells that doesn’t have harmful ingredients is the pure 100% Argan oil.
Actually, @dex is right.

In order to get the Prop 65 warning label, the product OR the container that the product is in must contain one or more of over 900 cancer causing chemicals, even if that amount falls well within safety levels.

@Anonymous032819 @icezeus Actually we are both right. Europe won’t allow most of the ingredients that we allow in cosmetics and skincare. The latest:

“ U.S. law does not require cosmetic products and ingredients, other than color additives, to have FDA approval before they go on the market, but there are laws and regulations that apply to cosmetics on the market in interstate commerce. ... In the United States, federal laws are enacted by Congress.”

Ingredients In Josie Maran’s Body Butter listed in item nr. A240186 Hydroxyethyl Acrylate/Sodium Acryloyl Dimethyl Taurate Copolymer, Polysorbate-60 are not natural ingredients as much as Josie like you to believe they are.

Re: MODS please confirm what I was told while trying to order the Josie Maran TSV

LTT1 — Sat, 18 May 2019 12:48:51 GMT

@Ketra

WOW...thank you for the links!

I have been looking at TITANIUM DIOXIDE (I’m removing it wherever possible) and I’m shocked too.

Re: MODS please confirm what I was told while trying to order the Josie Maran TSV

dex — Sat, 18 May 2019 13:57:30 GMT

I wonder why California is the only state to protect its residents from these cancer causing chemicals.

Re: MODS please confirm what I was told while trying to order the Josie Maran TSV

icezeus — Sat, 18 May 2019 14:55:36 GMT

@Anonymous032819

Thank you for the link. I plan on reading up more on this sometime this weekend. I had a vague knowledge of prop 65, but assumed it was for containers as well, and this is going to sound horrible but my way of was thinking were items that were made in China.

I am guilty of being a lazy consumer and I need to take my head out of the sand and do my reading.

I was trying to remember when was the last time that I actually purchase JM products. Although, I enjoy her body butters and had quite the beauty stash there was no need to purchase any Body butters for awhile. My last purchase was perhaps two or more years ago.

Re: MODS please confirm what I was told while trying to order the Josie Maran TSV

dex — Sat, 18 May 2019 15:03:38 GMT

@icezeus

@icezeus wrote:
@Anonymous032819

Thank you for the link. I plan on reading up more on this sometime this weekend. I had a vague knowledge of prop 65, but assumed it was for containers as well, and this is going to sound horrible but my way of was thinking were items that were made in China.

I am guilty of being a lazy consumer and I need to take my head out of the sand and do my reading.

I was trying to remember when was the last time that I actually purchase JM products. Although, I enjoy her body butters and had quite the beauty stash there was no need to purchase any Body butters for awhile. My last purchase was perhaps two or more years ago.

@Looks to me like you don’t have to worry too much about bad products as your state is monitoring for you.

Re: MODS please confirm what I was told while trying to order the Josie Maran TSV

silkyk — Sat, 18 May 2019 15:10:25 GMT

I had the same thing happen with a pair of Isaac's jeans. They said they had to have a warning label on them before they could ship . I said slap one on and send them out. A few days later they shipped so I guess they found those warning labels.

Re: MODS please confirm what I was told while trying to order the Josie Maran TSV

loriqvc — Sat, 18 May 2019 15:30:44 GMT

@icezeus - One other thing to consider: If Josie's company has not filed the correct paperwork for the product to comply with Prop 65 requirements, they cannot ship to California until they do, regardless of whether the ingredients actually fit the categories specified by Prop 65. This has been an ongoing problem for online retailers following updates to the Prop 65 regulations last year, and QVC in particular has not done a great job of requiring its vendors to complete their paperwork. (You'll find several threads on this subject if you search the Customer Care and Q Talk forum archives.)

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GraceLady — Sat, 18 May 2019 17:05:18 GMT

@dex wrote:
I wonder why California is the only state to protect its residents from these cancer causing chemicals.

I think you need to consider the source. California bans/tries to ban everything. It becomes more and more difficult to live here. I appreciate some things to be sure. They just go way too far. It is not just Prop. 65, it goes beyond.

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SeaMaiden — Sat, 18 May 2019 17:27:16 GMT

California has ridiculous laws! Glad I do not live there and I decide what I want and do not want to buy

Re: MODS please confirm what I was told while trying to order the Josie Maran TSV

icezeus — Sat, 18 May 2019 19:11:29 GMT

@SeaMaiden wrote:
California has ridiculous laws! Glad I do not live there and I decide what I want and do not want to buy

@SeaMaiden

I love my state but that's besides the point. I don't quite understand how banning a product that can cause cancer is considered ridiculous.

Re: MODS please confirm what I was told while trying to order the Josie Maran TSV

sunshine45 — Sat, 18 May 2019 19:30:43 GMT

@icezeus wrote:
@SeaMaiden wrote:
California has ridiculous laws! Glad I do not live there and I decide what I want and do not want to buy
@SeaMaiden
I love my state but that's besides the point. I don't quite understand how banning a product that can cause cancer is considered ridiculous.

@icezeus

it becomes ridiculous when you see signs up in laundry rooms, restaurants, grocery stores, gas stations, and more with the prop warning. and you know why it is there? so that they cannot get sued probably. can they always tell you what it is that is there that MAY specifically cause cancer? rarely.......

pretty much ALL of the state california should come with a prop65 warning.

"Proposition 65 requires businesses to provide warnings to Californians about significant exposures to chemicals that cause cancer, birth defects or other reproductive harm. These chemicals can be in the products that Californians purchase, in their homes or workplaces, or that are released into the environment."

Re: MODS please confirm what I was told while trying to order the Josie Maran TSV

grooms — Sat, 18 May 2019 19:49:21 GMT

Spare me......I do suffer from many QVC items that go to California because I live here but I have been buying Jose Maran's body butters for oh so many years. Even bought today's special value. Who came up with this idea is nuts.....the problem ordering is with QVC's automation. I tried one night to order and couldn't get my order through because they didn't recognize me - WHAT - I am from CVN days so don't give me that garbage.