topic Re: James Patterson & Bill Clinton in Book Club

James Patterson & Bill Clinton

BornToShop — Thu, 11 May 2017 13:23:42 GMT

FYI!!!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/08/books/james-patterson-and-bill-clinton-team-up-to-write-a-novel.html?_r=0

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dawg lover — Thu, 11 May 2017 13:36:50 GMT

I heard about this as well, and definitely plan to get it from the library. Sounds interesting!

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Mistreatedbycs — Thu, 11 May 2017 14:06:26 GMT

The women in his life will take up 90% of the book.

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CareBears — Thu, 11 May 2017 14:17:07 GMT

@BornToShop It certainly has piqued my interest, I will be requesting it at the library!

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ALRATIBA — Thu, 11 May 2017 14:18:36 GMT

That news caused me to remove James Patterson from my list of preferred authors!

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BornToShop — Thu, 11 May 2017 14:32:35 GMT

@Mistreatedbycs, LOL!!

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QVCkitty1 — Thu, 11 May 2017 14:37:16 GMT

I will buy that book !📚📚

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Lynnster67 — Thu, 11 May 2017 15:07:52 GMT

... and it's already being shopped to Hollywood.

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Colinka — Thu, 11 May 2017 15:10:14 GMT

If it's anything like James Patterson's other books, he will have very little to do with the actual writing of it. He just sells his name and cachet, and his publishers hire unknown authors to do the real writing. Clinton will probably not do much writing either--he's also just adding his name to a ghost written effort. Please stop falling for the James Patterson fantasy!

Oh, and also Bill O'Reilly!

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mollybgood — Fri, 12 May 2017 10:05:40 GMT

I am looking forward to listening to this book in

summer 2018! This appears to be a great writing

duo.

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Judaline — Thu, 11 May 2017 19:52:24 GMT

@mollybgood wrote:
I am looking forward to listening to this book in
summer 2018! This appears to be a great writing
duet.

You're kidding.

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Barbara-QVC — Thu, 11 May 2017 20:30:31 GMT

This post has been removed by QVC because it is inappropriate.

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CLEM — Thu, 11 May 2017 23:37:10 GMT

I will be sure to buy this. Thanks for posting.

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gardenman — Fri, 12 May 2017 11:29:00 GMT

As a general rule, when there's a book cover with a title before there's a book, it's a bad sign.

The press release sounds more like a pure money grab than a "Hey, I've got a great idea for a novel and I could use some insight from a former president to help flesh it out" type of story.

This sounds like the agent, who represents both, said, "I wonder if I can con a publisher into using both clients to write a novel?" When he found out he could, he then got together with the two to say, "Look, come up with some sort of story you two can collaborate on and we'll sell a ton of these."

Both 'writers' (neither likely will put many words on paper themselves) then came up with a plot and handed it off to someone else to work on.

In the real world, novels typically start with an idea that gets fleshed out and refined. A few draft chapters get written, edited, sent back and forth a few times and then more is written, and more and finally as the book nears completion things like cover design start to take place. Very often the original idea behind the book gets tweaked, if not completely tossed out, along the way. In this case, we've got the title and the book cover all done and the story is apparently being written to fit them.

Will it be good? Maybe, but I wouldn't count on it. This type of 'writing' often reminds me of the painting factories you see in places like China where "original handpainted works of art" are created by workers who sit at an easel all day copying a sample painting. While it's true they're an original hand painted work of art, it's not really art that has any real world value. As a decoration they're good, but if you're counting on it ever appreciating in value, you'll be sadly disappointed.

I suspect this book won't be a work of art, but a pure money grab capitalizing on th names of two famous people. (Much like Kim Kardashian's novel was. And Kanye West's, and countless others.) Hey, it's working for them. A lot of you are already lining up to read it so it's a clever marketing move and kudos to them for that. Just don't expect too much from it.

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LoriLori — Fri, 12 May 2017 13:08:11 GMT

James Patterson is the Andy Warhol/Thomas Kinkead of publishing. He does not write his own things, he only puts his name to them just as Warhol and Kinkead paid others to produce "their" art.

Former President Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar and he can write, so I wonder if they're friends, otherwise why would he be messing around with such an inferior mind.

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pommom — Fri, 12 May 2017 13:11:48 GMT

Did I miss the release date?

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BornToShop — Fri, 12 May 2017 14:09:07 GMT

@pommom wrote:
Did I miss the release date?

@pommom, so far it looks like June 2018.

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Colinka — Fri, 12 May 2017 16:40:02 GMT

@gardenman wrote:
As a general rule, when there's a book cover with a title before there's a book, it's a bad sign.

The press release sounds more like a pure money grab than a "Hey, I've got a great idea for a novel and I could use some insight from a former president to help flesh it out" type of story.

This sounds like the agent, who represents both, said, "I wonder if I can con a publisher into using both clients to write a novel?" When he found out he could, he then got together with the two to say, "Look, come up with some sort of story you two can collaborate on and we'll sell a ton of these."

Both 'writers' (neither likely will put many words on paper themselves) then came up with a plot and handed it off to someone else to work on.

In the real world, novels typically start with an idea that gets fleshed out and refined. A few draft chapters get written, edited, sent back and forth a few times and then more is written, and more and finally as the book nears completion things like cover design start to take place. Very often the original idea behind the book gets tweaked, if not completely tossed out, along the way. In this case, we've got the title and the book cover all done and the story is apparently being written to fit them.

Will it be good? Maybe, but I wouldn't count on it. This type of 'writing' often reminds me of the painting factories you see in places like China where "original handpainted works of art" are created by workers who sit at an easel all day copying a sample painting. While it's true they're an original hand painted work of art, it's not really art that has any real world value. As a decoration they're good, but if you're counting on it ever appreciating in value, you'll be sadly disappointed.

I suspect this book won't be a work of art, but a pure money grab capitalizing on th names of two famous people. (Much like Kim Kardashian's novel was. And Kanye West's, and countless others.) Hey, it's working for them. A lot of you are already lining up to read it so it's a clever marketing move and kudos to them for that. Just don't expect too much from it.

Oh, my! You said everything I wanted to say, but ten times better! As a librarian, I am secretly heartbroken when patrons come in to excitedly check out the latest "James Patterson" or "fill in another hack writer's name." I feel like a chef must feel when she's created healthy, delicious food in abundance, but the customer requests a "Twinkie."

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CLEM — Fri, 12 May 2017 22:43:18 GMT

I have already preordered it. Hope it will be good. Just has to be. Unless it's not.

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Oznell — Fri, 12 May 2017 23:49:18 GMT

Wow, Colinka, I did not know that about James Patterson. Of course I know his name, but have not read him...

It's great to get the inside dope from a librarian. Please don't tell me that my favorite detective fiction writer, Sue Grafton, is some sort of "writing assembly line" too!

Somehow, I doubt that she is-- her voice seems so distinctively hers, and her fabled ear for dialogue is so consistently high from book to book, that I surmise she's a one-woman shop. Do tell.