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A New Original Series- Reframed, Marilyn Monroe

decaf — Sat, 08 Jan 2022 23:47:02 GMT

Starts Sunday, Jan 16, 9PM ET/PT on CNN. A new four part docuseries, a look at Marilyn Monroe through the female lens. Narrated by actress Jessica Chastain.

Immortalized as a sex icon, dismissed as a tragic victim, Reframed: Marilyn Monroe dismantles the conventional narrative to tell the tale of a woman who refused to conform to societal pressures in her pursuit of a career. The series retraces Monroe’s story from budding starlet to Hollywood power-broker, as she navigates the treacherous waters of Hollywood’s casting couch culture and bravely speaks out about abuse at a time when silence was the norm. (From CNN Press Room)

Re: A New Original Series- Reframed, Marilyn Monroe

NickNack — Sat, 08 Jan 2022 23:43:12 GMT

Thank you for posting this @decaf . I have seen the promos for it but hadn't set it up to record until I saw your post.

Re: A New Original Series- Reframed, Marilyn Monroe

deepwaterdotter — Sat, 08 Jan 2022 23:47:33 GMT

Think I'll check this out, thanks for posting.

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chickenbutt — Sat, 08 Jan 2022 23:56:52 GMT

Sounds interesting.

Thank You!

Re: A New Original Series- Reframed, Marilyn Monroe

decaf — Sun, 09 Jan 2022 00:00:21 GMT

@NickNack wrote:
Thank you for posting this @decaf . I have seen the promos for it but hadn't set it up to record until I saw your post.

@NickNack That's exactly what I did, just taped it too!

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on the bay — Sun, 09 Jan 2022 00:04:52 GMT

@decaf,

Thank you again! I will always watch anything about Marilyn!

I guess I don't normally see these because I watch a lot of other streaming stuff, and don't always look at Youtube tv.

Re: A New Original Series- Reframed, Marilyn Monroe

drizzellla — Sun, 09 Jan 2022 00:44:02 GMT

FYI - On Wednesday Movies! Channel is having a Marilyn Icon-A Thon.

Love Nest
Monkey Business

How to Marry a Millionaire

Gentlemen Prefer Blondes
Seven Year Itch
Bus Stop
Let's Make Love
We're Not Married

Re: A New Original Series- Reframed, Marilyn Monroe

skatting44 — Sun, 09 Jan 2022 01:03:42 GMT

The abuse of starlett's in Hollywood began long before Harvey Weinstein

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nana59 — Sun, 09 Jan 2022 01:37:32 GMT

no thanks....

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Sooner — Sun, 09 Jan 2022 02:02:49 GMT

@nana59 wrote:
no thanks....

@nana59 I agree. More revisionist history. Yes there is lots of abuse. And yes, a lot of women have used men to climb the ladder at work or in life. If so, that's not abuse.

My point here is that not all situations are abusive to women and some differentiation needs to be made. When you make all women victims, you miss the point that some were as powerful at that game or more so than men. Own up to it.

Re: A New Original Series- Reframed, Marilyn Monroe

decaf — Sun, 09 Jan 2022 05:07:48 GMT

@Sooner wrote:
@nana59 wrote:
no thanks....
@nana59 I agree. More revisionist history. Yes there is lots of abuse. And yes, a lot of women have used men to climb the ladder at work or in life. If so, that's not abuse.

My point here is that not all situations are abusive to women and some differentiation needs to be made. When you make all women victims, you miss the point that some were as powerful at that game or more so than men. Own up to it.

No one has to watch any show they don't want to also, no one can comment effectively on a show they haven't seen. I can't comment on the show, I haven't seen it, no one has. It's quite interesting you're able to do that.

Re: A New Original Series- Reframed, Marilyn Monroe

skatting44 — Sun, 09 Jan 2022 15:11:57 GMT

@Sooner

some examples are Joan Crawford who knew what men to smooze to promote her career

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AngelPuppy1 — Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:15:18 GMT

Thanks for your post about this. I want to try to watch this. For some reason, I am just still, after all these years, fascinated by this woman. Very intriguing. I remember also seeing picures of the bungalow she owned at the time of her death and I just loved it. It was not large or fancy, and I could see why she felt comfortable there.

Re: A New Original Series- Reframed, Marilyn Monroe

on the bay — Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:16:32 GMT

@AngelPuppy1,

Me too I feel the same.

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on the bay — Mon, 17 Jan 2022 18:49:23 GMT

As much as I love everything about Marilyn, I found this one a little choppy so it wasn't as interesting as I was expecting.I caught the last 1 1/2 of it-almost forgot to watch!

Maybe it was how fast the camera would move over shots and the constant commentary by so many different people and their names were shown so fast I didn't always know who was speaking.

Years ago I watched a really good documentary about Marilyn which I thought was more effective. I forget the name but I'lll try to find it.

Maybe it was Norma Jean?

I am still going to try to remember to watch next Sunday too.

I watched it on Youtube streaming which always has CNN and other news channels.

The Legend Of Marilyn Monroe is good and with interviews and footage of the real Marilyn not actresses portraying her.

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CatsyCline — Mon, 17 Jan 2022 18:51:15 GMT

wasn't interested , don't care for CNN documentaries, their producers condense the content to sound bytes, then there's the constant stream of wanna-be stars talking head commentary. and if it has that creepy newsdude Chris Connaly from ABC news instant channel changer he makes me wanna b@rf.

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chickenbutt — Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:07:36 GMT

I watched the first two episodes this morning and enjoyed it.

I have two pictures of Marilyn in my bedroom. One is a HUGE picture in sepiatone, showing her with a bottle of Chanel #5. The other is this lovely picture, in black and white, of her in a bikini that I really love and always wished I could find a larger version of this one. Here it is - (I just took a quick shot, so sorry for the interference)

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GingerPeach — Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:11:38 GMT

Whether the actual CNN show is well crafted or not doesn't take away from the fact that Marilyn was a woman ahead of her time.

Look for the article she wrote called "Wolves I Have Known," published in Motion Picture and Television magazine in January 1953. She was the first ever to voice the system aloud.

Frankly, it's hard to find. I've seen only images of a couple of the pages, but so far the whole essay doesn't seem to be on the internet. If someone finds it, please share.

She understood the system but that doesn't mean it should ever have been OK for someone (typically a man of power) to threaten to cancel or not provide a job benefit, such as a contract, to someone else (typically a young, attractive woman without much power).

Re: A New Original Series- Reframed, Marilyn Monroe

decaf — Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:48:50 GMT

@GingerPeach Thank you for letting us know about the article she wrote. I'm not certain, is this the one you're speaking of?

http://www.marilynrememberedfanclub.com/article-marilyn-monroe-wolves-i-have-known/

Eta- If it's the one, I hope the mods allow it to stay here.

Re: A New Original Series- Reframed, Marilyn Monroe

GingerPeach — Mon, 17 Jan 2022 20:00:43 GMT

That's it, @decaf

Now I can read it without eyestrain!

Great finding skill!