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Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

wildcat fan — Sat, 02 Mar 2019 21:33:52 GMT

It's on Sunday and Monday at 8:00 p.m. EST.

Today I've done some online reading about the background. On the fence about watching it, though. Anybody here planning to watch?

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

esmerelda — Sat, 02 Mar 2019 21:47:55 GMT

@wildcat fan If I could, I would. I don't have HBO.

Why on the fence?

It's already been seen at the Sundance Festival.

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

NicksmomESQ — Sat, 02 Mar 2019 21:48:34 GMT

No I won’t watch it. I’m not saying Michael Jackson is innocent of all claims. I just have a problem believing these two guys who defended him when he was alive. Now suddenly they have a different story to tell when Michael isn’t here to defend himself!

I have no interest in anything they have to say.

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

wildcat fan — Sat, 02 Mar 2019 21:51:26 GMT

@esmerelda wrote:
@wildcat fan If I could, I would. I don't have HBO.

Why on the fence?

It's already been seen at the Sundance Festival.

Based on the reviews I've read, it sounds like it will be disturbing, so I don't know if I can sit through it. Yet, I'd like to hear their version of events.

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

wildcat fan — Sat, 02 Mar 2019 21:53:44 GMT

@NicksmomESQ wrote:
No I won’t watch it. I’m not saying Michael Jackson is innocent of all claims. I just have a problem believing these two guys who defended him when he was alive. Now suddenly they have a different story to tell when Michael isn’t here to defend himself!
I have no interest in anything they have to say.

I could understand them saying one thing at the trial out of loyalty to him yet feeling differently about it all now that they're older.

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

esmerelda — Sat, 02 Mar 2019 21:56:43 GMT

@wildcat fan Yes, it may be disturbing. When shown at Sundance, there were professionals available in the lobby for anyone who felt the need to talk to them.

Consider this...however disturbing it might be to watch it, the subjects lived it.

Anyone who wants to discuss truth or fiction...I'm not participating.

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

LoriLori — Sun, 03 Mar 2019 15:15:57 GMT

So sorry, I had some of the many kids molested by Michael Jackson mixed up.

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

esmerelda — Sat, 02 Mar 2019 22:45:48 GMT

@LoriLori Thanks for the information. I wondered why they spoke up, then were silent, and are now speaking up again.

Sleazy parents.

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

LoriLori — Sat, 02 Mar 2019 23:34:00 GMT

Sorry, the kids I was referring to whose parents settled civil suits were not these.

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

LoriLori — Sat, 02 Mar 2019 22:49:44 GMT

AND IN THE ONLY CRIMINAL TRIAL

(and there may have been other civil settlements, we wouldn't know) --

THERE WAS STRONG EVIDENCE. It included this: Michael Jackson had a unique mark on his...you-know-what. One of the key pieces of evidence was that the young plaintiff, Jordan Chandler, described it perfectly. And described disgusting repeated abuse. But like some other celebrities the jury let him go despite the weight of the evidence.

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

Jordan2 — Sat, 02 Mar 2019 22:59:47 GMT

I was possibly going to watch it but it's on for two nights. I have so much I watch and DVR already, I just can't.

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

wildcat fan — Sat, 02 Mar 2019 23:24:20 GMT

@LoriLori wrote:
@wildcat fan wrote:
@NicksmomESQ wrote:
No I won’t watch it. I’m not saying Michael Jackson is innocent of all claims. I just have a problem believing these two guys who defended him when he was alive. Now suddenly they have a different story to tell when Michael isn’t here to defend himself!
I have no interest in anything they have to say.

I could understand them saying one thing at the trial out of loyalty to him yet feeling differently about it all now that they're older.

THERE WAS NO TRIAL. THOSE TWO CASES WERE SETTLED IN CIVIL COURT. Their parents accepted huge settlements. I'll keep repeating it as long as people keep getting their facts wrong.

Robson and Safechuck gave witness statements in defense of Michael Jackson when Jordan Chandler accused him. There WAS a trial in 2005 during which Robson testified in Jackson's defense against the Arvizo allegations. In my previous post, I was referring to their statements related to these matters.

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

LoriLori — Mon, 04 Mar 2019 22:34:22 GMT

@wildcat fan wrote:
Robson and Safechuck gave witness statements in defense of Michael Jackson when Jordan Chandler accused him. There WAS a trial in 2005 during which Robson testified in Jackson's defense against the Arvizo allegations. In my previous post, I was referring to their statements related to these matters.

@wildcat fan , apologies, I had some of the kids molested by Michael Jackson mixed up.

Here is an interview Gayle King did on CBS This Morning with them that explains the why:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=fXf3uXDTRsk

There are others available on line. I believe Robson, Safechuck, Chandler and the rest...there are others, that's why I got mixed up.

To answer your original question, Wildcat Fan, listening to Robson and Safechuck in that Youtube video I learned all I need to know to know I don't want to watch the documentary.

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

LoriLori — Mon, 04 Mar 2019 22:34:53 GMT

@esmerelda wrote:
@LoriLori Thanks for the information. I wondered why they spoke up, then were silent, and are now speaking up again.

Sleazy parents.

@esmerelda , unfortunately it's wrong information. I apologize. I had some of the kids molested by Michael Jackson mixed up. It wasn't these two and it wasn't Jordy Chandler whose parents made the big civil settlements.

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

Mz iMac — Sat, 02 Mar 2019 23:52:12 GMT

@esmerelda"I don't have HBO."

The docu is also being shown simultaneously on OWN. Also.......

Monday

OWN

10:00p EST

Okra (Oprah) interviews the 2 men.

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

esmerelda — Sun, 03 Mar 2019 00:00:36 GMT

@Mz iMac Thanks. I don’t have that either. LOL!

If I could watch it, I would. But I can’t and that doesn’t bother me.

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

NYCLatinaMe — Sun, 03 Mar 2019 00:46:46 GMT

I may change my mind, but I don't think I will watch. I am a big fan of MJ's music and dancing, even though there were things about him I never liked, and a curious person that believes in justice. I have heard the documentry is hard to watch, and believable, and believe this is so, but I have a hard time believing he did these things, and am not sure i want to watch. my understanding is that child abusers are big recidivists, and if MJ was one, he seems to have stopped cold turkey, even though he was unble to stop other addictions. the police was all over his home, and i never heard there was any evidence of child abuse in the home. if there was, we would hav heard about it, becaue he is too big a star. If he had been a child abuser, he would have had souvenirs or pictures. a lot of people have incentives to lie. sad

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

KentuckyWoman — Sun, 03 Mar 2019 01:12:15 GMT

I won't be watching. He may have been a musical genius but he was a disturbed man. JMO.

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

VaBelle35 — Sun, 03 Mar 2019 01:53:19 GMT

@Mz iMac wrote:
@esmerelda"I don't have HBO."
The docu is also being shown simultaneously on OWN. Also.......

Monday
OWN
10:00p EST
Okra (Oprah) interviews the 2 men.

That's incorrect.

The Oprah interview is going to be on HBO and Own. It's called After Neverland.

The documentary is only on HBO.

Re: Leaving Neverland documentary on HBO

VaBelle35 — Sun, 03 Mar 2019 01:54:20 GMT

I watched 6 hours of R Kelly. I read the NYT story on the documentary.

I know enough.

I'll be interested to see the Oprah interview.