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“Bleed Out” - Medical errors are so common!! New Documentary

Goldengate8361 — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 01:08:50 GMT

Medical errors in hospitals are the 3rd highest cause of deaths in the US!!! Has anyone else seen this? It’s a new, powerful documentary on HBO. It will make you very nervous about going to the hospital! The doc is very well done.....

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KathyM23 — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 00:47:13 GMT

I better not watch it. I'm already leary since working in a hospital and from several personal experiences. Anymore info and I would be a nervious wreck if I had to be hospitalized again! Altho for the most part, they do an amazing job and we are lucky to have them.

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Wsmom — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 00:56:28 GMT

No, I haven't seen it but not surprised based on personal experience with family, and friends' experiences. Awful and very frightening.

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SeaMaiden — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 01:52:45 GMT

I watched a news segment on the dangers of robotic surgery..... tears, punctures, burns.... and deaths from surgery’s using this new method. The doctors are not trained well enough is part of the problem leading to mistakes.

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GiantsLover — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 02:09:42 GMT

I caught a life threatening MRSA infection from the hospital bed sheets, and had a gigantic starburst boil which turned deep purple, black and yellow with large red streaks and I almost died. They flooded me with strong antibiodics for close to 1 1/2 weeks and then gave me a load of scripts to fill and take. Really almost did me in and I never felt comfortable in any medical situation.

My Mom had surgery and they left the small scissoes in her body when they stitched her closed.

She kept complaining of pain when she moved but since she had surgery the Surgeon insisted the pain she felt was normal, and I insisted he take an xray many times when I brought her in and he refused, so I paid for my own ambulance and took her from his medical office into the best Hospital I knew would help her .

They performed an xray the minute she came in

The cause was two vital organs were punctured by the scissors they never removed from her body..

The Cervix and the Uterus.

God Bless them because they worked professionally and immediately and performed surgery, tied the bleeders off, and removed the scissors, but I was also relieved when I asked for the xray and they said to come back in 1 week and pay for it in their records room.

Took it to a highly recommended Medical Negligence Attorney who read the report and looked at the xray from the Hospital and Suregon, and we prompted sued for medical negligence by Jury and won.

(No we did not wish to settle with the Insurance Company, even though they asked many times and kept raising the settlement amount., but for our case we all decided it was to be trial by Jury unanimously which was a trial by Jury case so much higher than the largest insurance settlement amount they offered.)

On another Hospital visit when I was a teenager I came down with sepsis, which is also life threatening when I had my tonsils removed.

Both MRSA and Sepsis are both very well known life threatening conditions in all medical settings, and that is frightening!

Now ever since then all my famiily are very leery about any medical /dental visit of any kind, and pray we all remain healthy with no complicaitons.

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mousiegirl — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 02:14:43 GMT

@GiantsLover wrote:
I caught a life threatening MRSA infection from the hospital bed sheets, and had a gigantic starburst boil which turned deep purple, black and yellow with large red streaks and I almost died. They flooded me with strong antibiodics for close to 1 1/2 weeks and then gave me a load of scripts to fill and take. Really almost did me in and I never felt comfortable in any medical situation.

My Mom had surgery and they left the small scissoes in her body when they stitched her closed.

She kept complaining of pain when she moved but since she had surgery the Surgeon insisted the pain she felt was normal, and I insisted he take an xray many times when I brought her in and he refused, so I paid for my own ambulance and took her from his medical office into the best Hospital I knew would help her .

They performed an xray the minute she came in

The cause was two vital organs were punctured by the scissors they never removed from her body..

The Cervix and the Uterus.

God Bless them because they worked professionally and immediately and performed surgery, tied the bleeders off, and removed the scissors, but I was also relieved when I asked for the xray and they said to come back in 1 week and pay for it in their records room.

Took it to a highly recommended Medical Negligence Attorney who read the report and looked at the xray from the Hospital and Suregon, and we prompted sued for medical negligence by Jury and won.

(No we did not wish to settle with the Insurance Company, even though they asked many times and kept raising the settlement amount., but for our case we all decided it was to be trial by Jury unanimously which was a trial by Jury case so much higher than the largest insurance settlement amount they offered.)

On another Hospital visit when I was a teenager I came down with sepsis, which is also life threatening when I had my tonsils removed.

Both MRSA and Sepsis are both very well known life threatening conditions in all medical settings, and that is frightening!

Now ever since then all my famiily are very leery about any medical /dental visit of any kind, and pray we all remain healthy with no complicaitons.

@GiantsLover Horrendous! I am so glad you sued. If a patient complains of pain, it is the doctor's responsibility to investigate it, not to turn someone away.

I knew a young girl, years ago, who went to the hospital for a virus, I think, can't remember exactly, caught an infection, and lost half of each limb, that scared me to bits.

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GiantsLover — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 04:48:29 GMT

MOUSIEGIRL,

I ALWAYS WENT WITH MY GUT FEELING AND MANY TIMES I KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG, AND WHEN YOU GET THAT FEELING ITS TIME TO ACT FAST, AND DO WHAT YOU KNOW IS IN YOUR BEST INTEREST, OR IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ANYONE YOU CARE ABOUT AND LOVE.

THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY.

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phoenixbrd — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 09:37:43 GMT

We have good reason to be very leary of doctors and hospitals. The least we see them, the better. It would take a major crisis for us to visit either. If you knew the history, you would understand why. Our lives and health have been impacted in major ways due to surgical errors and mistakes.

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chiclet — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 12:00:21 GMT

Working in the medical field for 20 years I know that Doctors are just regular people and do not have super powers and I am very leary of them. We have no choice but to hope they know what they are doing. My husband thinks they are all knowing and what they say is the gospel. I have told him he has to take control of his own health and not just take every pill they give him but he will not listen.

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Winkk — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 14:26:14 GMT

This is not new news. It has been a problem for quite some time. I read an article last year that said there are hundreds of people who die every day due to medical errors while in the hospital.

This would be the equivalent of a plane crashing everyday. And, you know if that happened something would be done about it.

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jlkz — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 14:39:27 GMT

Suing for medical negligence ? Beware.

Unnamed hospital had a patient die due to several major medical errors by different doctors. She lasted almost a week in unbearable pain...drugs couldn’t lessen the pain. Her family was distraught.

Yes, they had a real case; however, the big medical negligence law firms wouldn’t take it because the case would have to be tried in county “ X “ which had a reputation for extremely low monetary awards.

They didn’t think the amount they would have to pay for expert doctors’ testimonies warranted their taking the case.

No justice there. Just be aware that suing on a good case may not be enough.

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Nataliesgramma — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 17:29:53 GMT

@jlkz wrote:
Suing for medical negligence ? Beware.

Unnamed hospital had a patient die due to several major medical errors by different doctors. She lasted almost a week in unbearable pain...drugs couldn’t lessen the pain. Her family was distraught.

Yes, they had a real case; however, the big medical negligence law firms wouldn’t take it because the case would have to be tried in county “ X “ which had a reputation for extremely low monetary awards.

They didn’t think the amount they would have to pay for expert doctors’ testimonies warranted their taking the case.

No justice there. Just be aware that suing on a good case may not be enough.

This IS TRUE....The Hospital killed my Dad giving him the wrong medication...even the Family DR said so.........no justice for us...

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lenapecci — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 16:13:28 GMT

I had so many different emotions while watching this.

The patient suffered so much. And all she wanted was to go home and be able to drive her car. It was so sad to watch all that she has endured.

The docotrs and the hospital were a nightmare. A camera watching ICU patients! And the camera was not even turned on.

Doctors and nurses changing reports. That horrible woman with the short hair and the glasses even said she did not care about the patient.

What I do not understand is why the son stuck with that lawyer. He too did not care.

How do you drop the surgeon and the anesthesologists from the lawsuit.

If that were my mom and I lived thousands of miles away. I would have found a way to get my mom to LA and find her better health care. Even when she had the stroke the hospital said she did not.

Then the uncle. UGH what can I say.

This was so frustrating to watch.

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Annabellethecat66 — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 17:12:08 GMT

@Goldengate8361 I just had a similar conversation with my little sister at lunch 2 days ago.

She was telling me she is petrified of hospitals. I have 3 nieces and 2 sisters who are all RN's.

The stories they tell would make anyone's hair stand up. This sister I mentioned worked at MedStar emergency where they helicopter people in who've been in terrible accidents. She also worked in the operating room and recovery.

One of my nieces is a specialist in phlebotomy.

I'm only mentioning this to reinforce that they have first hand knowledge of mess ups over the years. They don't give specifics (i.e. names, etc) doubt if they'd even remember, but they do remember they probably (ummmm...most likely been avoided).

I think, in most cases the people didn't die but there were complications. We don't talk about that part of it.

My sister said, "As far as I'm concerned a hospital is THE most dangerous place to be".

I said, "Wow! That's some statement". She said, "Yes, and I mean every word of it. Stay away from a hospital for any reason as long as you can".

This is kinda different but it is medical. Did you people realize the mortality rate for mothers and children in this country is among the highest in the world?

http://time.com/4508369/why-u-s-women-still-die-during-childbirth/

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/12/527806002/focus-on-infants-during-childbirth-leaves-u-s-moms-in-danger

https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/maternalinfanthealth/pregnancy-relatedmortality.htm

These statistics are alarming and surprising (to me, anyway).

I had no idea this was happening considering other health care in this country is 'supposedly' top notch.

I do know my family has always told me from day one that IF you do have to go to the hospital; get out of there as quickly as you can without putting yourself in danger by leaving too early.

In other words, as soon as the doctor says, "I think you can go now". Throw those clothes on and 'get out of Dodge'. Ha!

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mousiegirl — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 19:43:33 GMT

@Annabellethecat66 I have told doctors that I am leaving today, period, lol, and I did, difficult to heal in a hospital when you can't sleep.

Just as I was being wheeled into a room, a young girl next to me was complaining of pain, and finally her doctor came in to tell her that her colon was perforated and emergency surgery was needed, obviously someone messed up during the surgery she just had.

She was wheeled out crying as an earlier intern, I assume, who had no bedside manner, told her she may need a "bag," etc., which terrified her, I was appalled, and she was asking for her Dad. A while later, her distraught parents came to the room, saw me where their daughter used to be, and ran out.

Another time, my IV came out, and no nurse came to the room for three hours, said she was too busy when I asked her why no one came, unbelievable!

Another nurse yelled at me when I asked for pain meds, said it should be on my chart, and it WAS, so I reported her.

Many more personal horror stories, but will refrain from going into those.

I used to have a nurse neighbor and when I told her a story I had been told about her hospital, she said that she could tell me horror stories about any and all hospitals, SCARY!

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Reba055 — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:10:00 GMT

Thank goodness I’ve not experienced anything like this in a hospital setting but the medical practice is severely screwed up. I used to work in the medical field years ago. I blame it on the fact that insurance companies are now calling the shots and staff are overwhelmed with paperwork. Many nurses I know that truly care have gotten out of the field because they say they can’t do patient care like they feel like they should due to paperwork and time spent with patients being dictated by quotas.

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sidsmom — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:27:21 GMT

I question the provocative, splashy declaration of,

”Medical error is the third leading cause of death in the U.S.”

So many variables to fit one’s narrative.

I wonder how they came about that statistic.

2016 CDC will say

Heart disease: 635,260
Cancer: 598,038
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 161,374

Unless it somehow is piggybacked within the vastly descriptive

‘unintentional injuries’, it’s not a true indicator.

And just for that reason alone, I would question the accuracy

of the documentary.

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Annabellethecat66 — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 21:22:43 GMT

@mousiegirl I'm so sorry you've had to go through so much. I hope you are feeling better.

I understand too well the life changing problems that occurs when it involves bags and intestines.

A few years ago I had to be rushed to the hospital. I was in so much pain my friend called an ambulance because I couldn't sit up in a car.

I have unbelievable back pain 24/7 so I'm used to a lot of pain. I waited for at least a day and a half before I even called my friend.

When I got into the emergency room (and after x-rays, etc) the surgeon informed me I had a split in my colon but because I'd waited it had healed on it's own but not before the bacteria had leaked out. That was causing the pain.

Thank goodness a surgeon who wasn't CUT HAPPY was on duty that day. He was an older Dr and had a lot of patience.

Anyway, I was in the hospital for at least 5 days (a long time these days), being pumped with antibiotics.

But it all worked (thank GOD). I never loose sight had I had a cut happy surgeon (because that's all surgeon's do....they're trained to cut) I'd have had a bag.

My best friend's mother had one until she died, as did her sister's husband. I know how life-changing it can be.

My son-in-law's Aunt had one but they were able to re-attach it. You'll never convince me though that one reason for re-attaching it was because his father was a world renown surgeon and she worked directly for Bill Clinton at the time (also John Kerry's wife was their best friend). Meaning, not what you know but WHO you know.

Anyway, also my granddaughter's friend (the girl was only 14 at the time) was in constant pain and had to wear a bag. She's now 16 and according to my granddaughter is doing great (still with the bag). Her father and mother are both doctors. She said the girl was in so much pain, the relief she felt was worth it. An upside to the story.

Anyway, sometimes a person (I guess) is just lucky (or unlucky) however you look at it.

I was thinking earlier how I'd hate to have to go into the hospital around a holiday because the best Drs, etc are probably taking off on holiday.

This is just my idea and maybe is totally wrong, but it makes sense, doesn't it.

Kinda same but similar. I have an arthritis Dr and a cardiologist Dr. They both said they NEVER want their children to become doctors. The cardiologist's children are under 6 or 7, but the arthritis Dr's sons (2 of them) are just now in college.

She's told me how she did everything in her power to keep the kid from becoming a Dr. They (she and the kid) finally agreed that he was study primarily accounting (something like that) and minor the medical field. She said the red tape, etc was a night mare. She said she hires people who JUST deal with medicare and she mentioned all of the numbers that must be put in for reimbursement. My head fogged over....Ha!

The cardiologist told me his children are so young because he just finished paying off his education bills. He said he wanted to wait until then! He must be in his 50's at least.

I've known all of my Drs for many, many years. Some have gotten so old (in their 70's) they retired.

The arthritis Dr has just given me something new to try (she's amazing and keeps up with unconventional things that helps her patients). I adore her.

Anyway, thanks for sharing your story about the hospital. You brought back a memory of when I was 18 years old. I lived with my older sister and her 4 children (she was divorced). I'd been in a car accident and had fractured 3 vertebrae in my back. I was in the hospital for a spinal tap and myelogram (sp). They put too much dye in my spine and gave me IV's to try to get some of it out (really severe headaches).

My sister walked into my hospital room and saw my hand where the IV was and it looked like it was going to pop! She ran to get the nurse and the nurse wouldn't pull out the needle. My sister reached over and pulled out the needle. My sister wasn't a nurse but she could have been she knew so much about medical procedures, etc. This was my older sister.

It took days (many) for my body to absorb that fluid. It was from then on I decided I knew my body better than any Drs or nurses and how it reacts (I've had lots of things done to me too).

Bottom line is no one on this earth is going to look after us better than we are. You are one wise person. If I was here with you I'd give you one of my hugs. I'm a hugger and I don't care if someone likes it or not.....I'm a hugger.

Take care and have a nice Christmas. We here are better because people like you come here and share their stories and we can all feel the love all of you send out.

Hugs to you all. Annabelle...

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mousiegirl — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 21:51:02 GMT

@Annabellethecat66 wrote:
@mousiegirl I'm so sorry you've had to go through so much. I hope you are feeling better.

I understand too well the life changing problems that occurs when it involves bags and intestines.

A few years ago I had to be rushed to the hospital. I was in so much pain my friend called an ambulance because I couldn't sit up in a car.

I have unbelievable back pain 24/7 so I'm used to a lot of pain. I waited for at least a day and a half before I even called my friend.

When I got into the emergency room (and after x-rays, etc) the surgeon informed me I had a split in my colon but because I'd waited it had healed on it's own but not before the bacteria had leaked out. That was causing the pain.

Thank goodness a surgeon who wasn't CUT HAPPY was on duty that day. He was an older Dr and had a lot of patience.

Anyway, I was in the hospital for at least 5 days (a long time these days), being pumped with antibiotics.

But it all worked (thank GOD). I never loose sight had I had a cut happy surgeon (because that's all surgeon's do....they're trained to cut) I'd have had a bag.

My best friend's mother had one until she died, as did her sister's husband. I know how life-changing it can be.

My son-in-law's Aunt had one but they were able to re-attach it. You'll never convince me though that one reason for re-attaching it was because his father was a world renown surgeon and she worked directly for Bill Clinton at the time (also John Kerry's wife was their best friend). Meaning, not what you know but WHO you know.

Anyway, also my granddaughter's friend (the girl was only 14 at the time) was in constant pain and had to wear a bag. She's now 16 and according to my granddaughter is doing great (still with the bag). Her father and mother are both doctors. She said the girl was in so much pain, the relief she felt was worth it. An upside to the story.

Anyway, sometimes a person (I guess) is just lucky (or unlucky) however you look at it.

I was thinking earlier how I'd hate to have to go into the hospital around a holiday because the best Drs, etc are probably taking off on holiday.

This is just my idea and maybe is totally wrong, but it makes sense, doesn't it.

Kinda same but similar. I have an arthritis Dr and a cardiologist Dr. They both said they NEVER want their children to become doctors. The cardiologist's children are under 6 or 7, but the arthritis Dr's sons (2 of them) are just now in college.

She's told me how she did everything in her power to keep the kid from becoming a Dr. They (she and the kid) finally agreed that he was study primarily accounting (something like that) and minor the medical field. She said the red tape, etc was a night mare. She said she hires people who JUST deal with medicare and she mentioned all of the numbers that must be put in for reimbursement. My head fogged over....Ha!

The cardiologist told me his children are so young because he just finished paying off his education bills. He said he wanted to wait until then! He must be in his 50's at least.

I've known all of my Drs for many, many years. Some have gotten so old (in their 70's) they retired.

The arthritis Dr has just given me something new to try (she's amazing and keeps up with unconventional things that helps her patients). I adore her.

Anyway, thanks for sharing your story about the hospital. You brought back a memory of when I was 18 years old. I lived with my older sister and her 4 children (she was divorced). I'd been in a car accident and had fractured 3 vertebrae in my back. I was in the hospital for a spinal tap and myelogram (sp). They put too much dye in my spine and gave me IV's to try to get some of it out (really severe headaches).

My sister walked into my hospital room and saw my hand where the IV was and it looked like it was going to pop! She ran to get the nurse and the nurse wouldn't pull out the needle. My sister reached over and pulled out the needle. My sister wasn't a nurse but she could have been she knew so much about medical procedures, etc. This was my older sister.

It took days (many) for my body to absorb that fluid. It was from then on I decided I knew my body better than any Drs or nurses and how it reacts (I've had lots of things done to me too).

Bottom line is no one on this earth is going to look after us better than we are. You are one wise person. If I was here with you I'd give you one of my hugs. I'm a hugger and I don't care if someone likes it or not.....I'm a hugger.

Take care and have a nice Christmas. We here are better because people like you come here and share their stories and we can all feel the love all of you send out.

Hugs to you all. Annabelle...

@Annabellethecat66 The "bag" was my roommate, a young girl, not me, thank goodness. I felt so sorry for her, and so angry at the young intern who terrified her for no reason. Her doctor should have broken it gently to her. I doubt it was a permanent situation, only while she healed, but I have no way of knowing, over ten years ago.

Talk about going through so much, you certainly did, but thank goodness you recovered. Your ordeal with the IV, and infection, sounds horrific.

You are right in that we have to take control over ourselves re doctors. I debated through emails, for months, earlier this year with a new doctor, my previous moved, about a test he wanted me to take, which would have been painful and very stressful. I researched and found another test which would reveal the same result with no pain or stress to me, and he finally agreed. He had threatened to stop refilling my monthly prescription, so I told him how unprofessional it was to threaten a patient's well being, and that I had never been treated this way. He is older and very high up in the hospital, should have gone with another doctor. This guy is booked through next December.

Wishing you a wonderful Christmas.

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Annabellethecat66 — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 22:11:47 GMT

When I had my middle daughter, the Dr used forceps to try to get her out.

In the process he cut my bladder. The pain was unbelievable! He didn't realize he did it. They took me back to my room after delivery and I was still in crazy pain.

Someone decided it was just 'afterbirth' pain. The pain went on for a full day....getting worse.

Finally, the Dr came in and told me my bladder had been cut so they gave me sulfur to help it heal.

My lips swelled up. I looked like I had 2 balloons sitting on my face. It was then I found out I was allergic to sulfur!

Those were minor stories. I'll not bore anyone with the really big one's, as I'm sure many here have as bad or worse stories.

In the end we all try to do what's best. We have to try to have faith in our Drs. That's why when I get a Dr I think is the best, I'll follow him to the ends of the earth! Ha!

There have been a few occasions when I've been sitting in my back (orthopedic) Dr's waiting room and met people who've come from other states to get treated.

Two time I met people who came from other countries to be treated by my Drs.