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TLC's Duggars.

IEscapedLosAngeles — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:36:46 GMT

I just read some disturbing stuff nosing around about their beliefs. No higher education whatsoever for women. Of course homeschooling isn't a choice its a requirement and absolute submission in all things to men. Keenly left out by TLC as they want to shine them up and make them look normal. I don't care what a person's religious beliefs are, there is no way a woman is merely put on earth to make babies. Misogynist much "Quiverfull believers"? I suddenly feel very sorry for every daughter they have. I thought they were just ignorant for believing the entire world population could fit in the state of Florida. They are far worse than just ignorant, the "Quiverfull Believers" are dangerous misogynists. As bad as Scientology and Polygamy. Straight out of several newspapers. They can't all be wrong.

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rambocat — Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:28:17 GMT

Interesting.....Two of the girls are trained midwives (obviously woman's work). Guess that's OK because you are helping to bring more babies into the world.

As for home schooling, I know several kids that are home schooled and they are both college material. The Duggars are traveling around so much, when do the kids get their schooling? I'm sure the Duggars use a program that is based on their beliefs. What little bit I've seen, the schooling is usually supervised by the older kids...always girls.

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BellaPaprika — Sat, 14 Jun 2014 17:08:47 GMT

The Duggars have repeatedly denied being Quiverful. I see no reason to disbelieve them and I really don't think they would lie.Their children get GEDs like other home schooled kids and then take college courses online as many young adults do these days. Two of the older girls are getting certified - one as a mid-wife and one as a doula (birth coach).

And, yes, "several newspapers" can be wrong. Most likely because this would not be in a real newspaper but rather a tabloid.Threads like this are not so veiled attempts to bash the family. As Cyndi Lauper sang - I see your true colors.

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Annabellethecat66 — Sun, 15 Jun 2014 04:21:14 GMT

There are actually websites where people are taking bets on who is going to go 'to the dark side'.

I can't remember which one they said. I think it's the one who wants to be the country singer. Boo! Now I can't remember. All of their names are the same.

I was just one a website asking where the Browns on TLC's Sister Wives get all of their money (four brand new houses) and someone said, "Come on people. TLC only does shows about freaks".

But I don't think that's true. I really like the show called "The Little Couple". They are amazing. Their family is beautiful. I think that show educates people that just because someone looks different, they aren't.

Anyway, the Duggars make me sick the way these women get pregnant as soon as one baby gets out!

I just think, "What would this world be like if everyone thought that way". Then I've read where people say, "Leave the Duggars alone. Their children are bright eyed now like other kids who sit in front of TV's and computer games all day long".

Well, I don't know who's children are allowed to sit and watch TV and computer games all day long, I guess there are some, but most kids have to go to school during the day.

The thing that makes me sick about the Duggars is the father. He is always, always pawning all over his wife. To the point where it is ugh! I saw a little of an episode where the parents were playing put put golf with one of the girls and her boyfriend and the father goes up behind his wife and pushes in to her and starts kissing all on her and comments (to the camera later) "You won't be able to do this for a long time". Ugh! I thought that was just sic kening.

Just watch one of the shows where he's on it with his wife. It doesn't take long for him to act that way. She just stands around. The children are divided into groups with an older sibling the 'controller'.

I don't see where the mother does much except 'exist' for her husband.

Do you guys know that the son and his family is living here in the Washington, DC area as a representative for something or other (I forget what it is for)?

He's been living here for not quite a year now. They (The Duggars) visited him around Thanksgiving.

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TootyJane — Sun, 15 Jun 2014 18:41:36 GMT

Josh Duggar has worked as a political consultant since 2006. He, Anna and their kids moved to Washington, DC as Josh accepted a job as the executive director at Family Research Council Action, the lobbying arm of the conservative advocacy group.

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Jackielee — Sun, 15 Jun 2014 21:42:31 GMT

On 6/14/2014 BlueCollarBabe said:
The Duggars have repeatedly denied being Quiverful. I see no reason to disbelieve them and I really don't think they would lie.Their children get GEDs like other home schooled kids and then take college courses online as many young adults do these days. Two of the older girls are getting certified - one as a mid-wife and one as a doula (birth coach).

And, yes, "several newspapers" can be wrong. Most likely because this would not be in a real newspaper but rather a tabloid.Threads like this are not so veiled attempts to bash the family. As Cyndi Lauper sang - I see your true colors.

"Several newspapers" can be wrong about almost everything everyday. Of course, they probably are extremely wrong about the Duggars because the Duggars represent everything most journalists despise. They are conservative and religious.

I have to say that having that many children is something that i really don't understand but the mom is fantastic with them. And, geez, I see her travelling by herself to speaking engagements, etc all the time. Doesn't seem like her husband is keeping her down. And , geez, the oldest son is working in Washington for a conservative group. Oh-oh, better watch out for him. I cannot beleive the hate that goes on for certain groups of people. If you don't like their lifestyle then watch the total opposite -The Kardashians.

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IEscapedLosAngeles — Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:49:11 GMT

On 6/14/2014 BlueCollarBabe said:
The Duggars have repeatedly denied being Quiverful. I see no reason to disbelieve them and I really don't think they would lie.Their children get GEDs like other home schooled kids and then take college courses online as many young adults do these days. Two of the older girls are getting certified - one as a mid-wife and one as a doula (birth coach).

And, yes, "several newspapers" can be wrong. Most likely because this would not be in a real newspaper but rather a tabloid.Threads like this are not so veiled attempts to bash the family. As Cyndi Lauper sang - I see your true colors.

Their own website wouldn't be. This religion is full of Misogynists attempting to abuse women. Do you believe the entire world population can fit in the state of Florida? I've heard this poor excuse for a "Man" husband of hers say this. I stopped watching. Double standards as well as outright sexist ignorance can't be tolerated by any community in this era. Something tells me you don't believe in Climate Change and are convinced that the world population can fit in Florida.

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BellaPaprika — Mon, 16 Jun 2014 19:45:57 GMT

On 6/16/2014 anonymousanonymous said:
On 6/14/2014 BlueCollarBabe said:
The Duggars have repeatedly denied being Quiverful. I see no reason to disbelieve them and I really don't think they would lie.Their children get GEDs like other home schooled kids and then take college courses online as many young adults do these days. Two of the older girls are getting certified - one as a mid-wife and one as a doula (birth coach).

And, yes, "several newspapers" can be wrong. Most likely because this would not be in a real newspaper but rather a tabloid.Threads like this are not so veiled attempts to bash the family. As Cyndi Lauper sang - I see your true colors.

Their own website wouldn't be. This religion is full of Misogynists attempting to abuse women. Do you believe the entire world population can fit in the state of Florida? I've heard this poor excuse for a "Man" husband of hers say this. I stopped watching. Double standards as well as outright sexist ignorance can't be tolerated by any community in this era. Something tells me you don't believe in Climate Change and are convinced that the world population can fit in Florida.

Well you would be wrong then. What I do believe in is not criticising someone else's lifestyle and/or religious beliefs when you have no way of knowing exactly what they are because you don't live in their home and you haven't spoken to them personally about their faith. And no religion has a monopoly on abusing women and children. They all have their predators.

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snowylady — Tue, 17 Jun 2014 01:39:49 GMT

I had not watched 19 Kids and Counting at all until this season. I was drawn in when I heard about the 2 daughters in courtships. I thought Jill and Derek's courtship and engagement was just charming, I loved watching it. I found the family so interesting that I listened to all 3 of their audible books and really enjoyed them.

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colliemom4 — Tue, 17 Jun 2014 02:00:47 GMT

Not a big fan but Jill and Derrick make such a cute couple. I'm happy for them. They should be getting married this month. That's what I read online.

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ccassaday — Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:54:31 GMT

Anyone who watches this show or sees public interviews knows these kids or the wife aren't brain washed. They are happy well adjusted kids and now adults.

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lulu2 — Tue, 17 Jun 2014 22:22:11 GMT

On 6/15/2014 TootyJane said: Josh Duggar has worked as a political consultant since 2006. He, Anna and their kids moved to Washington, DC as Josh accepted a job as the executive director at Family Research Council Action, the lobbying arm of the conservative advocacy group.

He didn't get married until 2008. Wasn't he selling used cars back then?

I read today the engaged daughter is getting married this weekend.

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Kjelle — Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:32:29 GMT

I don't thnk they are Quiverfull. It is another church that believes almost the same. They home school but I think they don't believe in girls going to college and they can only do 'women's work' later, hence the birth coach/doula thing. It is a terribly misogynist view. They do seem well-adjusted bc they actually believe it. I wonder if anyone of them will bust out 15 years from now. BTW, the reason 'several newspapers' can all be wrong is that they don't write their own stories. They publish the same info off a wire subscription like AP, UPI, or Reuters. It's a small world we live in now, but we ought to be aware of that and do our own research.

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IEscapedLosAngeles — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 01:11:26 GMT

On 6/18/2014 Kjelle said: I don't thnk they are Quiverfull. It is another church that believes almost the same. They home school but I think they don't believe in girls going to college and they can only do 'women's work' later, hence the birth coach/doula thing. It is a terribly misogynist view. They do seem well-adjusted bc they actually believe it. I wonder if anyone of them will bust out 15 years from now. BTW, the reason 'several newspapers' can all be wrong is that they don't write their own stories. They publish the same info off a wire subscription like AP, UPI, or Reuters. It's a small world we live in now, but we ought to be aware of that and do our own research.

Their website was also researched. I guess however now days as long as your children are polite its alright with most americans to promote misogyny.

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ccassaday — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 02:14:41 GMT

My question is why do so many really care about how they raise their kids or how many reachable.tHey aren't hurting anyone. It doesn't effect your life or how you raise your children. I guess if kids aren't hooking up getting pregneant before the marriage they are not normal. They are happy and love God. I bet they have done more to help the less fortunate then anyone putting them down.

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Jackielee — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 16:57:03 GMT

On 6/18/2014 ccassaday said:
My question is why do so many really care about how they raise their kids or how many reachable.tHey aren't hurting anyone. It doesn't effect your life or how you raise your children. I guess if kids aren't hooking up getting pregneant before the marriage they are not normal. They are happy and love God. I bet they have done more to help the less fortunate then anyone putting them down.

Thank you!

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IEscapedLosAngeles — Fri, 20 Jun 2014 00:01:09 GMT

On 6/19/2014 Jackielee said:
On 6/18/2014 ccassaday said:
My question is why do so many really care about how they raise their kids or how many reachable.tHey aren't hurting anyone. It doesn't effect your life or how you raise your children. I guess if kids aren't hooking up getting pregneant before the marriage they are not normal. They are happy and love God. I bet they have done more to help the less fortunate then anyone putting them down.

Thank you!

Yay, more promotion of Misogyny! A already too patriarchal society that revels in putting women "in there place" and keeping them there gets to proceed with more ignorance being propagated. Lets take the female vote away next and get rid of our equal and civil rights while we are at it.

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BellaPaprika — Fri, 20 Jun 2014 00:21:06 GMT

America hasn't been a ""patriarchal society"" for a very long time. No danger of losing your vote or civil rights either. Can't a woman choose to stay home and have 20 kids if she wants? Or does her right to choose her own destiny only apply if she chooses one that you approve of? Why must people exaggerate and catastrophize? Is that the only way they can make the Duggars and those like them look bad?

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IEscapedLosAngeles — Fri, 20 Jun 2014 04:48:05 GMT

We live in a Patriarchal world (including the United States) and it has been for over 2000 years. Promoting ignorance and misogyny as so called "freedom of choice and religion" is ridiculous when the people in question know no better. When we all are treated equally for equal pay and our rights over our own bodies aren't decided by a group of mainly men, you can say we don't live in a patriarchal world. Education is the answer and its being blissfully ignored in favor of "Polite manners" and disguising following the letter of the Bible as "religious freedom". A book written by fallible men that allowed plural marriage and slavery. Maybe ignorance is bliss for some but not the majority.

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BellaPaprika — Fri, 20 Jun 2014 16:09:29 GMT

On 6/19/2014 anonymousanonymous said:
We live in a Patriarchal world (including the United States) and it has been for over 2000 years. Promoting ignorance and misogyny as so called "freedom of choice and religion" is ridiculous when the people in question know no better. When we all are treated equally for equal pay and our rights over our own bodies aren't decided by a group of mainly men, you can say we don't live in a patriarchal world. Education is the answer and its being blissfully ignored in favor of "Polite manners" and disguising following the letter of the Bible as "religious freedom". A book written by fallible men that allowed plural marriage and slavery. Maybe ignorance is bliss for some but not the majority.

This is actually an ongoing debate in sociological circles so we will probably continue to disagree. Here's why I disagree with you.

Women in America today have the right to vote and the right to own property. Women are still favored in child custody cases. More women than men graduate college. An unmarried childless female college grad earns more than a male college grad. More women vote than men therefore they are the ones putting predominately males in power. That is their choice and they're entitled to it. Sort of like how they're entitled to their own interpretation of the Bible.

Now do we still have a way to go to remedy the inequalities of the past? Of course we do just as the same holds true for racial and secksual issues. But are we a patriarchy in that men rule only for the benefit of men and can legally oppress women under the laws of our land? No we are not. You may not like the fact that some women are happy with what you call misogynist belief systems but if we are truly free we can only hope that by example and education we can change that. If it is their choice we must respect it.