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Finding a good dog breeder for a golden

ccassaday — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 05:10:58 GMT

Ok pet lovers i need some help. As you remember a few weeks agowe lost our belovedjake to cancer. He brought so much to our family we are ready for another golden. Maybe some of you can help me on how to go about finding a responsible breeder. We are searching internet and stuff. I read that sometimes your vet can help. I think we have done enough research to know what to look for. Maybe some of you have some more ideas. And before anyone says it we are not looking into a rescue or the shelter. Its just not for us.

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ccassaday — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 05:12:57 GMT

Sorry i put this in the wrong forum.

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makeup addict — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 05:16:43 GMT

Sorry for your loss.

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Alsee — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 05:31:55 GMT

I'm very sorry for your loss - I know how difficult it is. Please forgive me but I have to say it .... Please consider a rescue or shelter dog They need you as much as you need them.

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Abrowneyegirl — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 05:59:27 GMT

I am so sorry for your loss. You may want to find someone who breeds/handles show dogs. A Breeder of Merit will have the best interest of the breed at heart and should have responsible practices. Good luck.

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Silver Lining — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 05:59:37 GMT

On 2/2/2015 Alsee said: I'm very sorry for your loss - I know how difficult it is. Please forgive me but I have to say it .... Please consider a rescue or shelter dog They need you as much as you need them.

Like Alsee, I'm sorry for your loss but I have no advice on breeders for people who buy while healthy dogs die. There are breed specific rescue groups and many "purebred" dogs in shelters but you apparently know their documentation papers aren't released.

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scatcat — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 06:03:34 GMT

""It's just not for us"". What the he!/ does that mean?

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ccassaday — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 06:14:24 GMT

The reason it is not for us is we just lost a dog to cancer. My mom looked into rescues but a lot of them have health or other issues. We arent going to deal with that when ours just died of cancer. We would however not hesitate if a golden showed up at our shelter and was a puppy.

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Pook — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 06:59:08 GMT

Contact a golden rescue group as they may have puppies also. I have always adopted rescues and none had health issues or other issues,

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Kachina624 — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 07:12:56 GMT

My suggestion would be to go to a dog show and talk to people. Not just the exhibitors but other people who are watching goldens in their events. I bought a collie pup from a breeder who is sort of a poster child for ethical breeders, in 2005. I was involved in collie rescue and asked some of the members whose judgement I trusted what they thought of her. They were lavish in their praise. He's been a great dog and is still going strong.

This breeder has litters only when she knows she has buyers for her pups. She canceled a fall 2014 litter because, due to a large seizure, there were too many rescue collies available. At least one pup from each litter goes to be some sort of service dog. She's a teacher and has several non-show dogs she's trained as therapy dogs. She breeds each female only once, and at the most has only one litter a year. Some years, like 2014, she has none. She breeds only to improve the quality of the breed and loses money on every litter due to all the health checks the pups and mom must have.

The info I've provided ought to give you an idea of questions you might ask a breeder. In the case of goldens, I'd also ask about a history of cancer in the pedigree.

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Kachina624 — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 07:31:41 GMT

On 2/2/2015 Silver Lining said:
On 2/2/2015 Alsee said: I'm very sorry for your loss - I know how difficult it is. Please forgive me but I have to say it .... Please consider a rescue or shelter dog They need you as much as you need them.
Like Alsee, I'm sorry for your loss but I have no advice on breeders for people who buy while healthy dogs die. There are breed specific rescue groups and many "purebred" dogs in shelters but you apparently know their documentation papers aren't released.

This is nonsense. First, rescue groups have very few, if any, puppies available. We (I'm very involved in rescue) have little info available on the history and background of the dogs since they often are picked up as strays. We wish we knew their "stories". The exceptions are dogs relinquished by owners, which make up a small percentage of rescues.

We did participate in placing some of 149 purebred collies seized from a hoarding situation...I adopted one myself. Since they pretty much bred themselves, we couldn't provide info on pedigree.

There are not a huge number of purebred collies in shelters; in all of 2014 and 2013, not a single one in Albuquerque. We did have a few in El Paso and Las Cruces, although they were not purebred.

There are still about 20 dogs available from the hoarding situation if anyone is interested. They are Smooth Collies with short hair.

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Caitlinh429 — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 07:40:27 GMT

ITA w/ some of the others. There's an unfortunate stigma against shelter and rescue dogs as being, in lack of other words, "tainted", "dirty", "sick", etc. A majority of which are not. Plenty of great dogs in shelters for a vast majority of reasons. You'd be surprised how many litters are in rescues.

Petfinder.com is a great resource and you can search for your breed.

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feline groovy — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 07:50:23 GMT

ALSO:

http://grca.org/

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Silver Lining — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:43:39 GMT

On 2/2/2015 CaitlinH said:
ITA w/ some of the others. There's an unfortunate stigma against shelter and rescue dogs as being, in lack of other words, "tainted", "dirty", "sick", etc. A majority of which are not. Plenty of great dogs in shelters for a vast majority of reasons. You'd be surprised how many litters are in rescues.

Petfinder.com is a great resource and you can search for your breed.

Yes, many people don't know that not infrequently newborn puppies are brought to a shelter or seized by animal control with a rescue group or county humane society working in concert with them. Sometimes the mother is brought in with them but not always. The mom and her pups are put in a foster home where they get individualized care until they are old enough or well enough to be placed for adoption. To the OP, golden retreivers, like other larger dogs are known to have large litters. In my experience, breeders sometimes surrender puppies to shelters or rescue groups when they couldn't sell them to individuals or pet stores. OP, you said you didn't want to hear from us, so I am sorry. I think I understand why some people prefer buying a dog from a breeder and that's their choice.

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Bestdressed — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:57:09 GMT

Ccassday... I am sorry about the loss of your Golden Retriever Jake. We had golden retrievers and my last one was also named Jake. They are the best dogs! I still miss my Jake. You can try to google breeders in your area or as suggested try petfinder too. Pet shows are a good place to ask around for breeders too. You are right...your vet could probably help too. Good luck on your search. I hope you post pics when you get your new pup!

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ID2 — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:44:01 GMT

Please go to your local shelter and adopt a dog. They need your help!

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goldenowner — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 14:19:55 GMT

So sorry about your loss - always devastating as our dear pets are family members. We have 3 Goldens who are half-sisters (all same dada). I have a several friends who are golden breeders. They belong to the local Golden Retriever Club which is affiliated w/national club. It is vital that any breeder provide you w/health clearances for both parents as well as pedigree which will help give you a picture of life expectancy through generations. A reputable breeder will almost always have a waiting list for puppies and is careful to do background checks on potential families and require meeting them to assess best puppy personality for placement. Despite all the above there is no guarantee your pup will not develop cancer. Goldens are unfortunately prone to the disease and when you get a puppy you might be interested in having it be part of the Morris Animal Foundation lifetime Golden Study. Best of luck.

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Stray — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:09:32 GMT

I would start with your Vet; we got all of our Boxers through our Vet. I would try the American Kennel Association or as mentioned your local Retriever Club.

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terrier3 — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:21:12 GMT

I would go to a dog show and talk with the responsible breeder/handlers you'll find there.

That's how I found my second wire fox terrier.

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Dusty1 — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:33:47 GMT

ccassaday-I am so sorry about Jake. I've never been a real dog person, but we have 2 dogs that are such a part of our lives. Both are technically our daughter's, but when she went to college & then got married, they were still with us. Also, her horse & my sister's donkey, but that's another story. It's so hard to think of loosing them. I think vet's are a good place to start so that you can find a local owner. You got some good advice from several posters.