topic Re: HP TSV in Today's Special Value

HP TSV

DJP — Thu, 06 May 2021 04:31:20 GMT

Does anyone trust this computer for 350.00 ? I have to say I know nothing about it.

Re: HP TSV

Nuttmeg — Thu, 06 May 2021 13:30:29 GMT

@DJP wrote:
Does anyone trust this computer for 350.00 ? I have to say I know nothing about it.
@DJP

This laptop has some older parts likr Bluetooth 4.1 when current devices have 5.0. It has 4GB of memory when 8GB is standard.

Please take the model number and do a Google search.

You can then decide to buy or pass.

JMO. The technology in this laptop is too old.

For somerhing different, I would buy a Chromebook.

Here are two YouTubers I like

Chrome Unboxed

My Next Tablet

Re: HP TSV

DooneyGal2 — Thu, 06 May 2021 06:36:43 GMT

@Nuttmeg wrote:
@DJP wrote:
Does anyone trust this computer for 350.00 ? I have to say I know nothing about it.
@DJP
This laptop has some older parts likr Bluetooth 4.1 when current devices have 5.0. It has 4GB of memory when 8GB is standard.
Please take the model number and do a Google search.
You can then decide to buy or pass.
JMO. The technology in this laptop is too old.

For somerhing different, I would buy a Chromebook.
Here are two YouTubers I like
Unbox Chrome
My Next Tablet

Thanks for your thoughts on this, was wondering about it as well - I purchased the previous HP 15" laptop TSV from only 5 or 6 weeks ago and from what I see, except how this one has the anti virus Windows S mode, the one I bought has much more up to date technology and is much faster. The one I bought is an 11th generation i5 processor, this one I haven't seen QVC state one way or another what generation it is or how current ugh.

Re: HP TSV

Desertdi — Thu, 06 May 2021 08:10:37 GMT

I think it would depend on your needs. I don't collect movies, stream, save music or photos, or do any actual "work".........so a "cheapo" is good enough for email, and shopping..........

Re: HP TSV

Caaareful Shopper — Thu, 06 May 2021 11:29:52 GMT

@Desertdi wrote:
I think it would depend on your needs. I don't collect movies, stream, save music or photos, or do any actual "work".........so a "cheapo" is good enough for email, and shopping..........

@Desertdi Yes, I will give them that -- they mentioned in the presentation at midnight that it's a good model for the types of things you mentioned. They also mentioned if you want a laptop for gaming, architectural designs, and other things of that type, this laptop is not for you.

I hope every presentation mentions those distinctions, and shoppers are really listening. A good laptop for basic things, but anything above "basic," you probably want to pass.

Re: HP TSV

SilleeMee — Thu, 06 May 2021 12:23:05 GMT

I would rather buy a Chromebook instead. CBs have built-in security so you don't need to purchase or even use (you can't use) antivirus software. CBs don't use Microsoft software so you don't get frustrated with updates. CBs use Google Chrome operating system, which is a (proprietary) kernel of the Linux OS.

Re: HP TSV

Nuttmeg — Thu, 06 May 2021 13:26:56 GMT

@Desertdi wrote:
I think it would depend on your needs. I don't collect movies, stream, save music or photos, or do any actual "work".........so a "cheapo" is good enough for email, and shopping..........

@Desertdi

LOL, It is not the price, it is just the lack of technology. I spec any products I want to buy at Notebookcheck.net. This site has some comprehensive reviews and benchmark lists for processors and graphic cards.

You can then decide whether this laptop will work.

Re: HP TSV

Nuttmeg — Thu, 06 May 2021 13:52:50 GMT

@DooneyGal2 wrote:
@Nuttmeg wrote:
@DJP wrote:
Does anyone trust this computer for 350.00 ? I have to say I know nothing about it.
@DJP
This laptop has some older parts likr Bluetooth 4.1 when current devices have 5.0. It has 4GB of memory when 8GB is standard.
Please take the model number and do a Google search.
You can then decide to buy or pass.
JMO. The technology in this laptop is too old.

For somerhing different, I would buy a Chromebook.
Here are two YouTubers I like
Unbox Chrome
My Next Tablet
Thanks for your thoughts on this, was wondering about it as well - I purchased the previous HP 15" laptop TSV from only 5 or 6 weeks ago and from what I see, except how this one has the anti virus Windows S mode, the one I bought has much more up to date technology and is much faster. The one I bought is an 11th generation i5 processor,this one I haven't seen QVC state one way or another what generation it is or how current ugh.
@DooneyGal2

Notebookcheck.net has benchmark list of processors. You should be able to find information on this site.

Re: HP TSV

Abrowneyegirl — Thu, 06 May 2021 15:25:45 GMT

You are better off with Chromebook than a cheap laptop if you have a small budget.

Re: HP TSV

NYCLatinaMe — Thu, 06 May 2021 17:42:19 GMT

@SilleeMee wrote:
I would rather buy a Chromebook instead. CBs have built-in security so you don't need to purchase or even use (you can't use) antivirus software. CBs don't use Microsoft software so you don't get frustrated with updates. CBs use Google Chrome operating system, which is a (proprietary) kernel of the Linux OS.

Does Google get access to the information on the Chromebook as part of using it? I wonder what one would have to consent to to use that device.

Re: HP TSV

SilleeMee — Thu, 06 May 2021 17:50:49 GMT

@NYCLatinaMe wrote:
@SilleeMee wrote:
I would rather buy a Chromebook instead. CBs have built-in security so you don't need to purchase or even use (you can't use) antivirus software. CBs don't use Microsoft software so you don't get frustrated with updates. CBs use Google Chrome operating system, which is a (proprietary) kernel of the Linux OS.
Does Google get access to the information on the Chromebook as part of using it? I wonder what one would have to consent to to use that device.

You can read about the privacy policy on their Chrome Browser Privacy Policy page. A CB, in basic terms, is nothing more than an elaborate tool to use the google Chrome browser where storage is all cloud based.

Re: HP TSV

DJP — Thu, 06 May 2021 18:35:53 GMT

@Nuttmeg

Thank You for the info. I will pass on this one.

Re: HP TSV

Nuttmeg — Fri, 07 May 2021 15:39:25 GMT

@NYCLatinaMe wrote:
@SilleeMee wrote:
I would rather buy a Chromebook instead. CBs have built-in security so you don't need to purchase or even use (you can't use) antivirus software. CBs don't use Microsoft software so you don't get frustrated with updates. CBs use Google Chrome operating system, which is a (proprietary) kernel of the Linux OS.
Does Google get access to the information on the Chromebook as part of using it? I wonder what one would have to consent to to use that device.

@NYCLatinaMe

I do not own a Chromebook. I use a Samsung S7+ and a Note 10+ as my daily devices.

Security is the most important thing in the Chrome and Android ecosystem.

A Chromebook primary OS is Chrome. Many new books will run Android 11.

Android 11 has improved app permissions. Each app has three options, deny, only when in use, and always allow.

There are some nice battery and power saving settings.

Here are three YouTube channels that maybe helpful.

Tech Gear Talk

My Next Tablet

Unboxed Chrome

JMO. I love my Samsung phone and tablet. I would not buy a Chromebook from Samsung.

Re: HP TSV

NYCLatinaMe — Fri, 07 May 2021 16:00:41 GMT

@Nuttmeg wrote:
@NYCLatinaMe wrote:
@SilleeMee wrote:
I would rather buy a Chromebook instead. CBs have built-in security so you don't need to purchase or even use (you can't use) antivirus software. CBs don't use Microsoft software so you don't get frustrated with updates. CBs use Google Chrome operating system, which is a (proprietary) kernel of the Linux OS.
Does Google get access to the information on the Chromebook as part of using it? I wonder what one would have to consent to to use that device.
@NYCLatinaMe
I do not own a Chromebook. I use a Samsung S7+ and a Note 10+ as my daily devices.

Security is the most important thing in the Chrome and Android ecosystem.

A Chromebook primary OS is Chrome. Many new books will run Android 11.

Android 11 has improved app permissions. Each app has three options, deny, only when in use, and always allow.

There are some nice battery and power saving settings.

Here are three YouTube channels that maybe helpful.
Tech Gear Talk
My Next Tablet
Unboxed Chrome

JMO. I love my Samsung phone and tablet. I would not buy a Chromebook from Samsung.

Thanks @Nuttmeg my question was not about how they protect customers from third parties. These cheap tablets, I think they collect information about the user. So its is the system itself that I am concerned about. I am an apple customer. They don't seek to monetize customers' personal information. Wondering about chromebook and everything google, since googles monetizes its users personal information.

Re: HP TSV

Nuttmeg — Fri, 07 May 2021 21:37:23 GMT

@NYCLatinaMe

Google takes security very seriously

I found some interesting articles with the a Google search "Does Chrome OS have privacy rules"?

Re: HP TSV

NYCLatinaMe — Fri, 07 May 2021 22:53:43 GMT

@Nuttmeg I tried your search and found exactly the oposite:

a tech reporter wrote he uses the chromebook as a guest and never logs in to protect his personal data, which I guess he access with other devices.

"Google owns all of my data. Between Gmail, Google Maps, Google Keep Notes, Google Assistant, and on and on, Google has collected mountains of information on me. It's, quite frankly, really scary.
"There simply is no privacy if you use Google services."

"https://mashable.com/article/cheap-chromebook-perfect-paranoid-user/

It is my understanding that Google markets its data. So I personally make very limited use of Google. Never log in either.

Re: HP TSV

NYCLatinaMe — Fri, 07 May 2021 23:28:14 GMT

Re: HP TSV

Nuttmeg — Sat, 08 May 2021 01:52:07 GMT

@NYCLatinaMe

Yes. Google is secure when it comes to ones identity. If someone tries to log into a device of mine, I will get and email.Google scans apps for malware before installing them.

JMO, Data mining is something different. This takes place during any exchange of data. Even getting your COVID-19 shot. You where tracked in when you provided personal information .

Not everyone can afford Apple device which has a built in privacy policy. I like customizing phone by making minor changes to in the settings. I do not believe Apple will allow me to make any adjustments.

Most Android apps have a privacy policy and opt-out settings.

Would an Apple device be data mined running Google Chrome?

Re: HP TSV

Nuttmeg — Sat, 08 May 2021 01:58:07 GMT

@NYCLatinaMe wrote:

More on chromebook:

"Google’s unbridled control of Chromebooks leaves users especially vulnerable to exploitative data-mining. It’s unclear just how much Google knows and exactly what it does with its intelligence, so consumers with privacy concerns are probably better off opting for a different laptop brand until we know more."
from https://www.hotspotshield.com/blog/chromebook-google-spyware-machine/

@NYCLatinaMe

No device is safe from being mined even your TV. The set top box delivers data to your cable company or TV rating service.

Re: HP TSV

NYCLatinaMe — Sat, 08 May 2021 02:08:36 GMT

@Nuttmeg wrote:
@NYCLatinaMe

Yes. Google is secure when it comes to ones identity. If someone tries to log into a device of mine, I will get and email.Google scans apps for malware before installing them.

JMO, Data mining is something different. This takes place during any exchange of data. Even getting your COVID-19 shot. You where tracked in when you provided personal information .

Not everyone can afford Apple device which has a built in privacy policy. I like customizing phone by making minor changes to in the settings. I do not believe Apple will allow me to make any adjustments.

Most Android apps have a privacy policy and opt-out settings.

Would an Apple device be data mined running Google Chrome?

@Nuttmeg I am not sure what you mean here, but to be clear, what I don't like is Google's data colllection and data sharing practices.

I don't use Google Chrome in my apple computer. I am sure Google collects information from everyone that uses its services for marketing purposes. Google provides some good services, so I use some of its products, but a chromebook seems like it would give them access to everything one does in the computer, so I wouln't use it. I don't know if it does, that is what I was asking you. The data I googled suggested the author shared my concerns, but provided no definitive answer. I am sure this is by Google's design, they obfuscate. Some websites that identfy themselves as secure (such as those for health services), and I don't believe the data in these secure websites can be mined. Maybe you know better, I don't know.