topic Re: PLEASE LET'S NOT USE ""QVC SPEAK"" in Jewelry

PLEASE LET'S NOT USE "QVC SPEAK"

Glitter Puss — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:56:55 GMT

Maybe you will throw tomatoes at me for this one, but I am wondering whether there are any Ripkanistas on this board who are nauseated by "QVC speak". I am not one who cares about which host is on w/ Judith, which models they use, whether a hostess's fake nails need touch-up, whether Judith had facial surgery or not, whether so-and-so's hair looked good or bad, etc. etc. etc. But the "QVC speak" grates on me like nails on a chalkboard - possibly because I used to be an English teacher. In particular, I am referring to the terms "price point" instead of "price", "colorway" instead of "color", & "fabrication" instead of "fabric"or "composition". A "fabrication" actually means "a lie". We add extra words or syllables to perfectly good words & distort their meaning or just add pomposity. And how 'bout that cliché that everyone keeps using & refuses to go away: "It is what it is." What does that mean????? How can it be anything else BUT what it is? Unless it is what it ain't, & that's my definition of a paradox!

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BOYINTX — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:05:47 GMT

glitter i agree and yet honey you would hate me.

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Akane — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:09:37 GMT

First world problems.

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Moonchilde — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:19:03 GMT

I agree, OP, but this is not limited to QVC. All the shopping channel hosts do it. It's so pretentious and cutesy, and faux up-to-the-minute trendy with the emphasis on faux - that's the turn-off for me. That, and hosts who are not educated enough to know it's faux or just don't care. Because a bunch of people on a shopping channel coin a few words and phrases, that doesn't mean they're universally used, or should be.

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shaggygirl — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:29:57 GMT

And ""on the day"" instead of just plain old ""today"". One host started it (I think Shawn) and now it's slowly spreading amongst the others.

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faeriemoon — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:45:55 GMT

On 10/17/2014 shaggygirl said:
And ""on the day"" instead of just plain old ""today"". One host started it (I think Shawn) and now it's slowly spreading amongst the others.

They've been using ""on the day"" forever; way before Shawn ever arrived at the Q.

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Moonchilde — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:57:30 GMT

On 10/17/2014 shaggygirl said:
And "on the day" instead of just plain old "today". One host started it (I think Shawn) and now it's slowly spreading amongst the others.

That phrase, at least, is an everyday expression in the UK and I suspect has been for probably a century at least. I imagine it has just found its way to the US.

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ValuSkr — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:03:40 GMT

I agree with you. Such words are pretentious and often used incorrectly. Do they subconsciously impress some people? I suppose so. But plain talk impresses me.

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Johnnyeager — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:05:33 GMT

Jane was chastised for using ""on the day"" and it became an 11 page grammar discussion

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Brooklynny — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:07:48 GMT

I disagree with the OP. The terms "price point," "color way," and "fabrication" are all accepted terms used in the business/fashion/retail industries and have existed for decades. Words can have multiple meanings depending on their usage, and QVC's usage of these terms is not incorrect. Overused maybe, but not incorrect. This from an English major and person who has worked in business circles for 40 years having been exposed to these particular industries and these commonly used terms.

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Snicks1 — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:47:43 GMT

The term "QVC Speak", isn't that exactly what the OP is against? Odd. Just sayin'.

Sorry, I usually stay out of these threads, couldn't help myself this morning after the many postings that I have read and avoided, from the last few days here on the board.

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Johnnyeager — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:49:57 GMT

On 10/17/2014 snickster said:
The term "QVC Speak", isn't that exactly what the OP is against? Odd. Just sayin'.

Sorry, I usually stay out of these threads, couldn't help myself this morning after the many postings that I have read and avoided, from the last few days here on the board.

Totally awesome catch.

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Madisson — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:03:43 GMT

QVC speak? Maybe we could call it ""QVCese"" (analogous to ""legalese"")...lol!

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traveler — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:09:18 GMT

On 10/17/2014 brooklynny said: I disagree with the OP. The terms "price point," "color way," and "fabrication" are all accepted terms used in the business/fashion/retail industries and have existed for decades. Words can have multiple meanings depending on their usage, and QVC's usage of these terms is not incorrect. Overused maybe, but not incorrect. This from an English major and person who has worked in business circles for 40 years having been exposed to these particular industries and these commonly used terms.

That was my first thought. That the OP is critiquing a field of work she is not a part of.

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smarty — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:20:24 GMT

On 10/17/2014 Glitter Puss said:
Maybe you will throw tomatoes at me for this one, but I am wondering whether there are any Ripkanistas on this board who are nauseated by "QVC speak". I am not one who cares about which host is on w/ Judith, which models they use, whether a hostess's fake nails need touch-up, whether Judith had facial surgery or not, whether so-and-so's hair looked good or bad, etc. etc. etc. But the "QVC speak" grates on me like nails on a chalkboard - possibly because I used to be an English teacher. In particular, I am referring to the terms "price point" instead of "price", "colorway" instead of "color", & "fabrication" instead of "fabric"or "composition". A "fabrication" actually means "a lie". We add extra words or syllables to perfectly good words & distort their meaning or just add pomposity. And how 'bout that cliché that everyone keeps using & refuses to go away: "It is what it is." What does that mean????? How can it be anything else BUT what it is? Unless it is what it ain't, & that's my definition of a paradox!

Glitter, I get what you are saying...but the definition of "fabrication" also means the action or process of manufacturing something...whether it is physical or imaginary. So for instance, a countertop can be fabricated; the clothing was made through fabrication on a loom; the doublet in that ring is a fabrication of two complimentary stones. While "fabrication" is commonly used to describe a lie, its meaning is broader...so hosts may be using it appropriately.

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Tinkrbl44 — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:58:49 GMT

On 10/17/2014 Glitter Puss said:
Maybe you will throw tomatoes at me for this one, but I am wondering whether there are any Ripkanistas on this board who are nauseated by "QVC speak". I am not one who cares about which host is on w/ Judith, which models they use, whether a hostess's fake nails need touch-up, whether Judith had facial surgery or not, whether so-and-so's hair looked good or bad, etc. etc. etc. But the "QVC speak" grates on me like nails on a chalkboard - possibly because I used to be an English teacher. In particular, I am referring to the terms "price point" instead of "price", "colorway" instead of "color", & "fabrication" instead of "fabric"or "composition". A "fabrication" actually means "a lie". We add extra words or syllables to perfectly good words & distort their meaning or just add pomposity. And how 'bout that cliché that everyone keeps using & refuses to go away: "It is what it is." What does that mean????? How can it be anything else BUT what it is? Unless it is what it ain't, & that's my definition of a paradox!

Girl, you need to get yourself a hobby .......

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Johnnyeager — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:06:12 GMT

And to add about "price point": it has a very specific meaning within the study of economics, but is now very widely and acceptably used in retailing, as someone else mentioned. Not a verbal faux pas at all.

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ahoymate — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:10:56 GMT

What grates on me is people who have no consideration for their readers. Paragraphs were invented for a reason. Run-on sentences =very poor grammar!!!!!!

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BOYINTX — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:11:17 GMT

On 10/17/2014 Johnnyeager said:
And to add about "price point": it has a very specific meaning within the study of economics, but is now very widely and acceptably used in retailing, as someone else mentioned. Not a verbal faux pas at all.

glitter puss i do not understand what your what it is or it is what. Honey what was it ?

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LilacTree — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:57:03 GMT

A certain host uses the phrase ""this is a conversational piece."" That is one term I've never heard before.