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What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

SANNA — Fri, 09 May 2014 11:45:17 GMT

I just ordered her very pretty IMHO 2 stone dangly turquoise earrings . Did not find any info about source or treatment ( as usual on Q,that is why I shop elsewhere). Now I am wondering what I just bought. Anybody has them by any chance?

Re: What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

SANNA — Fri, 09 May 2014 11:50:59 GMT

It's j264786. Thanks

Re: What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

anisha — Fri, 09 May 2014 16:07:35 GMT

Hi SANNA, I have these earrings and they are beautiful, no matrix almost like sleeping beauty turq. There was a thread here some time ago about what you ask and someone had posted that they checked with the JR company via email and got a response that all JR turq us natural. I hope this helps. Enjoy the earrings they are beautiful.

Re: What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

judyakm — Fri, 09 May 2014 16:11:50 GMT

This is from her official other website: Turquoise: Originating in China, this material is crushed genuine Turquoise dyed to enhance the color and mixed with resin to create rough material.

Hope this helps.

Re: What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

SANNA — Fri, 09 May 2014 18:58:15 GMT

Thanks ladies. That's what I suspected ...Reconstituted stones .that explanes relatively low (for her stuff) price. Really why would she cell perfectly clear natural stones for $176. In today's market,and being JR? So I cancelled. I buy only natural. Q must put things in writing like ShopHQ does.

Re: What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

Kachina624 — Fri, 09 May 2014 20:22:29 GMT

It's like I said before, what difference does it make if we run out of Sleeping Beauty? They can just make more. Who's to know the difference?

Re: What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

champagnepoodle — Fri, 09 May 2014 20:36:39 GMT

On 5/9/2014 judyakm said:
This is from her official other website: Turquoise: Originating in China, this material is crushed genuine Turquoise dyed to enhance the color and mixed with resin to create rough material.

Hope this helps.

Yikes! Really?

Re: What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

chrystaltree — Fri, 09 May 2014 21:31:57 GMT

QVC is awful, I buy ver ylittle jewelry from them because they really don't give out any information about the pieces. Rarely do they provide gram weights and they never tell if the stones are treated, they never discuss care of the stone. Sorry, but "this is so red carpet" and "I love love love" doesn't substitute for some basic information about the piece. Ripka's turquoise might be natural but is it "reconstitued" turquoise? Has it been dyed?

Re: What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

chrystaltree — Fri, 09 May 2014 21:33:49 GMT

On 5/9/2014 champagnepoodle said:
On 5/9/2014 judyakm said:
This is from her official other website: Turquoise: Originating in China, this material is crushed genuine Turquoise dyed to enhance the color and mixed with resin to create rough material.

Hope this helps.

Yikes! Really?

Ah Ha!!! I should have read this before I posted. Doesn't surprised me at all. Reconstitued, dyed turquoise, held together with resin. Junk. At her QVC prices, she should be ashamed.

Re: What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

SANNA — Fri, 09 May 2014 21:44:29 GMT

On 5/9/2014 kachina624 said: It's like I said before, what difference does it make if we run out of Sleeping Beauty? They can just make more. Who's to know the difference?

I know , kachina , you are not a fan of SB. Doesn't mean others either. In this case I was just hoping for natural stuff because the design is very pretty for my taste. I refuse to buy reconstitute de or infused stuff. And I like only no matrix stones, SB or Persian, no matter how valuable other SW stones are. Even if it cost a million per carat it will not make me love it. Like I said it is a cultural thing.

Re: What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

Garden50 — Sat, 10 May 2014 01:47:52 GMT

. I went to the Judith Ripka website and could not find the above. where is it on the site?

Re: What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

Garden50 — Sat, 10 May 2014 15:23:58 GMT

Sorry, what I was referring to was the quote supposedly from the J R website that the turquoise used is crushed. I could not find that stated on the website.

Re: What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

lafilmgirl — Thu, 15 May 2014 22:20:37 GMT

Here it is on her website and I am really, really, really disappointed. I think if it's sold as 'sleeping beauty' it has to be sleeping beauty. Click on Turquoise. You can cut and paste. Link not working.

http://www.judithripka.com/the-jewelry/stones.html#

Re: What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

lafilmgirl — Thu, 15 May 2014 22:27:07 GMT

Also on QVC.com. I wish they would state which Turquoise product was Turquoise - Composite. Gemstone treatments that QVC knowingly accepts.

The composite material is a manufactured product consists primarily of turquoise and resin. Artificial veining.

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Haca — Thu, 15 May 2014 22:45:00 GMT

Here we go again! There are a number of threads about stabilized, compressed, and lastly "reconstituted" turquoise. That's where these boards are really helpful in educating unsuspecting customers. The "other" shopping channel with a community board has an interesting thread about compressed turquoise. Buyers beware! Read the fine print. The shopping channels are required to list details of the gemstones, however these details are not necessarily discussed on air! Could hurt sales.

Re: What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

lafilmgirl — Fri, 16 May 2014 00:05:11 GMT

That's why I buy my Turquoise from ShopHQ these days.

Michael Valitutti (Gems En Vogue) and Paul Deasy (Gem Insider) sell the good stuff.

I just wish QVC would be honest about the gems they sell like ShopHQ.

Bottom of the Barrel: Originating in China, this material is crushed genuine Turquoise dyed to enhance the color and mixed with resin to create rough material.

Embarrassing that a high end designer like Judith would use this stuff.

Now I'm looking at all my other Judith pieces I purchased over the years and wondering what kind of gemstones she used in those pieces. They always say she uses the good stuff.

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catlvr — Fri, 16 May 2014 04:05:51 GMT

I only buy Carolyn Pollack's stuff as far as sleeping beauty goes. I can't imagine she can call it Sleeping Beauty and not offer the real deal. I could be wrong. I totally expect to get Chinese reconstituted powder turquoise from Ripka given where her jewelry is manufactured.

Re: What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

judyakm — Fri, 16 May 2014 05:14:37 GMT

I found the turquoise description on her high end website. I was surprised. I have a couple pieces of it, carefully chosen because I love the look of the TOTAL piece. I prefer turquoise in a natural state with matrix...however, following this board since 2007, I have found that people don't want the matrix or they want it to be exactly matching....this is less possible with natural mined turquoise....very hard for earrings in particular, as both need to be very similar if not exactly the same. Most of us veterans if ordering turquoise or lapis earrings, order two pair to increase the odds of getting a better match. Thus returning the others.

So Ripka is damned if she does or damned if she doesn't...I choose those pieces where the "look and aesthetic" I love and do not order those I don't. I have decided not to care about how the turquoise and/or lapis is formed...I judge the end result. I hope you all are doing the same.

Re: What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

ennui1 — Fri, 16 May 2014 05:37:16 GMT

On 5/9/2014 judyakm said:
This is from her official other website: Turquoise: Originating in China, this material is crushed genuine Turquoise dyed to enhance the color and mixed with resin to create rough material.

Hope this helps.

Well. OK.

Re: What kind of turquoise JR uses? Natural or dyed?

smarty — Fri, 16 May 2014 16:12:16 GMT

David Yurman uses this "stuff" too...so do a lot of other "high end" manufacturers...copied from his website:

Why does David Yurman use simulated turquoise?

Due to increased demand for turquoise, mines worldwide have become depleted and there is very little natural turquoise left. Because the Sleeping Beauty turquoise that David Yurman favors is particularly scarce, we have opted to use simulated turquoise in some of our jewelry collections. This material comprises natural stones that are ground into a paste, bound with resin, and dyed to achieve a beautiful blue hue.

How is hematine different from hematite?

Hematite is the technical word for iron oxide rocks that occur in nature. While very beautiful, Hematite is also quite brittle and doesn’t polish well. To achieve consistency and beauty in his designs, David Yurman chooses to use Hematine, a man-made stone also composed of iron oxide. Hematine is easier to manipulate and has a brilliant sheen. The two stones are virtually indistinguishable from each other and are close in value.