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Haca — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 15:27:44 GMT

Hi kachina, I so enjoy all your contributions in matters of turquoise. I believe we all do!

I even went to the e site trying to find the vendor, however, I had the number wrong and the very accommodating cs on the site tried but was unable to help me. Then I re-read your post and lol it was my fault for remembering it incorrectly. Would you mind letting me know once again the title of the book on Amazon? There are a number of reference books listed. Since I am a turquoise enthusiast I should become as educated as possible.

I thought I post it on this board, because as CL said, this is a happy and friendly place. I wouldn't mind having a continued discussion about turquoise (any kind - not only sleeping beauty) if there would be sufficient interest.

Thank you again, Haca.

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ennui1 — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 18:13:08 GMT

kachina has recommended the books by the Lowrys:

Turquoise Unearthed: An Illustrated Guide by Joe Dan Lowry and Joe P. Lowry

Turquoise: The World Story of a Fascinating Gemstone by Joe Dan Lowry and Joe P Lowry

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Hazel — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 18:23:12 GMT

I have ""Turquoise Unearthed"" by the Lowrys and it's a nice little book to have for reference. I also have one called ""The Allure of Turquoise"" which is a compilation of articles from New Mexico magazine and is very interesting w/ beautiful color pictures and a map of the mines. I got both of these from amazon in recent years. Always happy to discuss turquoise ( it's my birthstone too which is nice!)

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Haca — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 18:49:57 GMT

Thank you both very much!! It is greatly appreciated! Hazel, I spent a pleasurable hour checking out the turquoise seller kachina recommended! Lots of mouth watering pieces and great write-ups on various old turquoise mines. Hazel I am going to learn posting pictures so I can share some of my treasures with others. Haca

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Hazel — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 19:22:38 GMT

Also, Haca, if you're interested in the history of silversmithing and the diff. jewelry made by the Navajo and the pueblo tribes of the southwest, as well as the use of turquoise in this jewelry, you might try "Fine Indian Jewelry of the Southwest: The Millicent Rogers Museum Collection" by Shelby Tisdale. This was another amazon find and is a really interesting and beautiful book. I've been to NM numerous times but not to Taos where this museum is located...I hope to someday be able to get there! For now, I do enjoy reading all about these things (have always had an interest in it and I blame it on my grandparents who traveled "out west" as we called it as kids growing up in the east...they used to bring back all sorts of trinkets for us kids as souvenirs...little turquoise crosses and rings and bracelets and all sorts of loose rocks, etc.), and I enjoy getting to Santa Fe and ABQ since our son is in school in ABQ at UNM...hope this helps!

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Kachina624 — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 23:06:54 GMT

Hi Haca and all, I usually recommend the Lowry books because they are large, inexpensive paperbacks with beautiful pictures. Joe Dan knows his stuff and does a lot of cutting and polishing of stones. He speaks from a cutter's point of view which is always interesting. For instance, as I've mentioned before, Bisbee often has a lavender cast to it. When cut, they say the water from the cutting wheel is often blood red. He owns and operates the Turquoise Museum where I've talked to him several times.

Hazel, the Millicent Rogers Collection has wonderful old-style Indian jewelry, often huge pieces. The lady could really pick the jewelry. There is a biography of her that makes for good reading. She was a fashion icon of her time and a beautiful woman. Have you been to the Turquoise Museum? If not, definitely put it on your bucket list. It's in a strip shopping center across Rio Grande Blvd. from Old Town.

I don't think most people know about the Taos group. The ringleader was Mabel Dodge Luhan who was a heiress to the Dodge fortune who married a Taos Pueblo Indian, Tony Luhan. don't you know that was a sensation at the time? The group included all types of creative people who were in and out of Mabel's home. They included Georgia O'Keefe, Walt Whitman & his wife, Millicent Rogers and many others. Mabel's bio is also a good read. These were such interesting people and outside of the area, I don't think much, if anything, is known about them.

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Hazel — Mon, 31 Mar 2014 00:05:11 GMT

kachina624, this is all so interesting! I am reading up on some of these things as an extension of the book on the museum collection and you are right, those were some unusual people and unusual times and Taos was (and still is I imagine!) such an unusual place. You are fortunate to live in New Mexico...I think it is a beautiful state and the intersection of the Spanish, Mexican and the diff. Indian cultures is so rich and interesting to me. I love it when we're down there, good food, good shopping, sooooooooooo much history...I just soak it all up. So diff. in the southwest than it is up here in the extreme northwest (live in MT and have for a long time...again, I blame this on my grandparents who must've put these seeds in my head as a young child so many years ago! GO WEST must've somehow gotten ingrained We haven't been to the turquoise museum in ABQ and should definitely go as we have been to old town several times and love the old church there, etc. Thanx for the tip!

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Kachina624 — Mon, 31 Mar 2014 02:10:34 GMT

Hazel, and I love, love Montana. Last September, my sister (from Philly), me, a cousin and his friend who live in Santa Fe took a road trip to Banff Nat'l Park in Alberta. I'd been to Mt. Before but two of our group hadn't and they were wowed. It was two weeks in the car with a couple of butt-heads but sister and I had a great time anyway. We haven't spoken to the boys since we got back, I might add. I've always loved the Flathead Lake area.

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Haca — Mon, 31 Mar 2014 02:40:21 GMT

Hello Hazel and Kachina...OMG what a wealth of information. I thank you!!!! I was gone all afternoon - working on an old house restoration project (Jug and Kathoderay follow this on FB) and didn't look at my phone because I was literally dripping in paint. )

Of course, the books will be on my list. Yes, yes, yes Hazel I am so interested in the silver and turquoise work by the Navajo and pueblo tribes of the Southwest. That's another one on my list. I caught the bug early in my twenties. Being German we like anything Native American and their history, their traditions and crafts. I traveled with a German friend via Greyhound (oh yes - like I said was very young and didn't have much money) throughout the US but we spent a lot of time in the Southwest, including visits to a reservation. (San Felipe I think - need to check my scrap books.) I bought relatively inexpensive turquoise and silver jewelry back then. I also like Georgia O'Keefe - have a number of books, including her biography. Kachina, the information about the Taos group is very interesting and I'll look into that. The museums you and Hazel mentioned are now on my bucket list. Our fairly new Smithsonian one is not shabby either and I like going there. It tells the story from a NA point of view.

Thanks again - feeling quite overwhelmed but happy.

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Kachina624 — Mon, 31 Mar 2014 05:50:56 GMT

Haca, look Mabel Dodge Luhan up on Wikipedia. She was something else. I was wrong; she was a heiress but not to the Dodge fortune. She was married about four times and her parents kept shuttling her off to Europe to keep her out of trouble. No man (or woman) was safe around her apparently.

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ennui1 — Mon, 31 Mar 2014 06:28:00 GMT

On 3/30/2014 Hazel said:
You are fortunate to live in New Mexico...I think it is a beautiful state and the intersection of the Spanish, Mexican and the diff. Indian cultures is so rich and interesting to me.

Well, gee whiz. come to California!

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Kachina624 — Mon, 31 Mar 2014 07:31:16 GMT

Well, New Mexico doesn't have earthquakes, at least none you can feel. There is a wonderful book by Irving Stone called Men to Match My Mountains. It's a historical novel that you can't put down. It tells the story of the settlement of the West, with a lot about early California history. It's out of print but I've picked up used copies on Amazon. It's a great book to give to a man...they love it.

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ennui1 — Mon, 31 Mar 2014 07:51:48 GMT

On 3/31/2014 kachina624 said: There is a wonderful book by Irving Stone called Men to Match My Mountains. It's a historical novel that you can't put down. It tells the story of the settlement of the West, with a lot about early California history. It's out of print but I've picked up used copies on Amazon.

It appears to be back in print, in paperback, anyway.

Looking for that one, another book by Irving Stone caught my eye, "From Mud-Flat Cove to Gold to Statehood: California 1840-1850."

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Hazel — Mon, 31 Mar 2014 14:53:20 GMT

kachina and ennui, thanks for those Irving Stone recommendations...those sound like books my husband would LOVE...always looking for gift ideas for him 'cause I find the men SO hard to buy for...girls women are easy, at least in this family...we all love jewelry and ennui, I have only ever been to CA ONCE in my life...we went for a family trip to northern/central CA when our kids were younger and I loved it...I just think of the place in my mind as beautiful wild coastline and golden sunlit hills...that's how I see it 'cause that's the part I saw and how it looked to me then...have always meant to go back and will someday...it's my husband's fave place on the planet and he has taken every opportunity over the years to be sent there to work on projects whenever possible...all over the state...Haca, it sounds like you have your hands full! but at least you will have some good reading ideas for your spare time (if you ever get any

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Haca — Mon, 31 Mar 2014 16:38:31 GMT

Kachina, hazel and Ennui...thank you bunches. True I won't have a lot of time in the immediate however I am banking it for later. Estimated time of project completion is April 26! There I said it - I may have to eat my words!

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HandJive — Mon, 31 Mar 2014 17:31:00 GMT

On 3/31/2014 Hazel said:
I have only ever been to CA ONCE in my life...we went for a family trip to northern/central CA when our kids were younger and I loved it...I just think of the place in my mind as beautiful wild coastline and golden sunlit hills...that's how I see it 'cause that's the part I saw and how it looked to me then...have always meant to go back and will someday...

It's exactly what I see when I look out my window, except today because it's raining!

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Kachina624 — Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:24:10 GMT

On 3/31/2014 ennui1 said:
On 3/31/2014 kachina624 said: There is a wonderful book by Irving Stone called Men to Match My Mountains. It's a historical novel that you can't put down. It tells the story of the settlement of the West, with a lot about early California history. It's out of print but I've picked up used copies on Amazon.

It appears to be back in print, in paperback, anyway.

Looking for that one, another book by Irving Stone caught my eye, "From Mud-Flat Cove to Gold to Statehood: California 1840-1850."

Irving Stone also wrote The Agony and the Ecstasy and Lust for Life...remember those? He was a first class storyteller.

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Haca — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 19:48:55 GMT

Hi Ladies, I ordered several of the books you suggested on Amazon in this thread. The "World Story of a Fascinating Gemstone" is too pricey for me right now. It is out of print and therefore the owners are charging accordingly. I will check out my library.

But two others are on their way and I am looking forward to feast my eyes and brain. Thanks again, Haca

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cooking lady — Fri, 04 Apr 2014 18:25:05 GMT

Kachina - so excited - I just bought the Millicent Rogers book on Ebay for $3.99 and Free Shipping - thanks for putting me on to that my turquoise ""soul sister""!! LOL

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Haca — Fri, 04 Apr 2014 21:36:44 GMT

On 4/4/2014 cooking lady said:
Kachina - so excited - I just bought the Millicent Rogers book on Ebay for $3.99 and Free Shipping - thanks for putting me on to that my turquoise "soul sister"!! LOL

Hi CL, I ordered two books on turquoise five days ago from Amazon. Normally they would be here but not this time, even though they supposedly shipped four days ago. Maybe it's the same bug in the systen as Bird mama and pistolino have for their jewelry.