topic Re: Misinformation.. in Jewelry

Misinformation..

Trinity11 — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 16:24:02 GMT

The rep presenting an angel wing diamond ring told us that I2 diamonds the flaws can not be seen with the naked eye. I have my GIA. I1, I2and I3 diamonds the flaws are visible to even the untrained eye. Buyer beware.

QVC claims to partner with the GIA. If so, the vendor needs to know this important piece of information. Also, the host said nothing to correct the misinformation.

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151949 — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 16:32:44 GMT

I suspect those diamonds are so tiny that they can't even be seen with the naked eye - thus you would not be able to see any flaws.LOL.

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IMW — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 16:32:30 GMT

Critical piece of information. Significant misrepresentation.

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2blonde — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 16:32:32 GMT

@Trinity11 You are right. I've been into jewelry for a very long time and have several good books on gems and diamonds. The I in I-2 stands for "included," so an I-2 diamond has many visible inclusions. Nearly clear diamonds would be rated as S-1,2 (slightly included) or VS-1,2 (very slightly included) or VVS-1,2 (very, very slightly included).

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blackhole99 — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 16:37:57 GMT

I remember years ago when I went to trade up with my diamond studs and the sales person called them promotional diamonds.

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Nightowlz — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 16:39:29 GMT

I'm pretty good at seeing flaws with the naked eye without the loop.

I used to work at Zales back in the 80's in the office. When I was not busy I would take trays from behind the counters to clean the jewelry. I could see the flaws. The manager said I don't see how you can see that without the loop.

I would rather have smaller flawless or near flawless stones then larger diamonds that are cloudy & full of black carbon spots or pepper that you can see.

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Trinity11 — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 16:41:08 GMT

@151949wrote:
I suspect those diamonds are so tiny that they can't even be seen with the naked eye - thus you would not be able to see any flaws.LOL.

A trained eye or someone with a good eye will detect flaws. They are probably single cut but an I2 parcel of diamonds placed in a ring will be cloudy looking.

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anin — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 17:05:40 GMT

thats sound interesting.

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millieshops — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 17:18:26 GMT

Although I love diamonds, I would not pay for the diamonds in this particular piece of jewelry. If I were going for it, I'd be perfectly happy to have tiny stones like these are in cubic zirconia. I'd be looking for sparkle, not the residual value we get from larger, more perfect diamonds. I just don't understand paying for diamonds that size no matter the quality.

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151949 — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 17:27:15 GMT

@Trinity11 I tried as best I could to count the stones in that ring - I got 48 and probably missed some. There are 14 points( 1/7 C) of diamonds in that ring so divide .14 by 48 and each stone is .002carats. Thus my statement - the diamonds themselves are practically microscopic.

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Trinity11 — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 17:47:34 GMT

@151949wrote:
@Trinity11 I tried as best I could to count the stones in that ring - I got 48 and probably missed some. There are 14 points( 1/7 C) of diamonds in that ring so divide .14 by 48 and each stone is .002carats. Thus my statement - the diamonds themselves are practically microscopic.

Then why would the vendor grade the diamonds if they are unable to be seen? For myself, it is the principle of the statement. The consumer is being told misinformation. I2 diamonds are not eye clean no matter how small they are.

GIA holds to stellar Standards in the Industry. QVC claims to partner with them so owes their customer accuracy in their descriptions.

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Nightowlz — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 17:47:35 GMT

@151949wrote:
@Trinity11 I tried as best I could to count the stones in that ring - I got 48 and probably missed some. There are 14 points( 1/7 C) of diamonds in that ring so divide .14 by 48 and each stone is .002carats. Thus my statement - the diamonds themselves are practically microscopic.

@151949 I don't call those diamonds. I call them diamond chips at that size. LOL!!!

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faeriemoon — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 17:55:40 GMT

Although the term is most certainly overused, the Q specializes in diamond dust.

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Lipstickdiva — Fri, 02 Mar 2018 14:36:42 GMT

I agree that saying I2 diamonds don't have visible flaws was certainly not a correct statement.

I also suspect that as another poster said, the diamonds in this ring are so tiny, that in this case, you won't be able to see the flaws in the I2 diamonds used because you won't be able to see the diamonds either.

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Zhills — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 21:30:18 GMT

I have that ring and you can't even see the diamonds! All you can see if the silver outline around them. No sparkle at all. Love the concept, dislike the ring!

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chrystaltree — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 21:47:15 GMT

I assume the tiny diamonds are too small for anyone to see anything anway. Qvc isn't selling fine diamonds anyway so it really doesn't matter what they say.

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Trinity11 — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 22:03:30 GMT

@chrystaltreewrote:
I assume the tiny diamonds are too small for anyone to see anything anway. Qvc isn't selling fine diamonds anyway so it really doesn't matter what they say.

@chrystaltreeIt matters to many of us, myself included. It's about truth in advertising. If I purchase something from QVC and they claim to be partnering with GIA, I want to know truthful information about the diamonds they are selling. I2 diamonds are simply not eye clean and the vendor needs to be educated before selling something that he is representing.

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Lavenderjunkie — Sat, 03 Mar 2018 02:34:15 GMT

It does matter what they say. It's one thing to try to market a piece of jewelry with sales language.... pretty, sparkly, beautiful, etc. It's quite another to misrepresent specific quality information.

I was listening during one of the presentations, and I heard the rep say you would see the inclusions with a loupe.... that was true. I don't think I heard him say you woundn't see the inclusions without a loupe. Two very different statements.... one true, although somewhat misleading. The other untrue.

I don't think it's right to say either of those things. It misleads buyers who depend upon the honesty and reputation of Q. It's bad enough buyers don't get information about whether stones are full cut or single cut. And we generally don't get specs on quality of the stone and the color.

I've heard hosts on other stations say that I2 diamonds are beautiful..... and it makes me so angry. After that I know that I can't believe anything that station says! Q does not want to be included in that group.

Bottom line, buyers need to become more educated. And we need to get as much information as we can. And when we don't get the information we need to make a good decision, we need to assume the worst case and not buy. And then, maybe, the shopping channels will provide more specific information... on line and on TV.