topic Re: Liz Claiborne and Isaac Mizrahi Live--Why the two separate lines? in Fashion

Liz Claiborne and Isaac Mizrahi Live--Why the two separate lines?

SunnyinSEPA — Tue, 08 Apr 2014 21:36:10 GMT

I know the Isaac M. "team" is behind both lines, so I don't see the need for the two separate lines on the Q. IMO they are very similar and you see a lot of similar prints and styles each season between the two lines. Does anyone know of some distinct differences between the two lines? The first dress below is Liz and the other two are Isaac M Live. Looking at the prints, I thought the first dress was an IML, too, when I saw it online. If you've shopped both lines, can you tell me the differences between the two? Is one of better quality? Are they sized similarly? Thanks!

Re: Liz Claiborne and Isaac Mizrahi Live--Why the two separate lines?

PamB226 — Tue, 08 Apr 2014 21:47:36 GMT

Why the two separate lines? Because they are two separate designers! Just because some items are similar doesn't mean they should get rid of one of them.

My experience is the IML sizing runs smaller than the Liz line

Re: Liz Claiborne and Isaac Mizrahi Live--Why the two separate lines?

traveler — Tue, 08 Apr 2014 21:55:47 GMT

I think the goals are slightly different. LC is more working, conservative look and IM is trying to sell younger. Similar to FM having Chevy line and Pontiac line. ( yes, I know Pontiac is gone but I couldn't think of something else)

Re: Liz Claiborne and Isaac Mizrahi Live--Why the two separate lines?

fab50 — Tue, 08 Apr 2014 22:30:44 GMT

Different looks from the different lines. I agree there are similarities, though. My gripe is when they say Liz is like the "original." I happen to remember the original, when Liz first began designing. These clothes are nothing at all like those fabulous originals!

Re: Liz Claiborne and Isaac Mizrahi Live--Why the two separate lines?

Trix — Tue, 08 Apr 2014 22:55:03 GMT

LCNY is much more bland and conservative than Isaac's namesake line. Isaac Live is bright and colorful. There are some things that look like crossovers, but for the most part there is a very clear distinction between the two.

Re: Liz Claiborne and Isaac Mizrahi Live--Why the two separate lines?

PamB226 — Tue, 08 Apr 2014 23:42:56 GMT

On 4/8/2014 traveler said:
I think the goals are slightly different. LC is more working, conservative look and IM is trying to sell younger. Similar to FM having Chevy line and Pontiac line. ( yes, I know Pontiac is gone but I couldn't think of something else)

The difference between a Ford Edge and a Lincoln MKX. Basically the exact same style, but the MKX is classier with more standard upgrades. The Edge appeals to the younger set, the MKX, to the older set

Re: Liz Claiborne and Isaac Mizrahi Live--Why the two separate lines?

skuggles — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 00:00:13 GMT

I noticed that many of the items were almost identical. Didn't know that they were the same co. They can't just be different designers because Liz C died several years ago. The companies, or divisions of) are just named with a front man who is supposed to represent a certain level of design and quality. Not sure that is true at all... the level of quality and design.

I remember Liz C. early on when it was very very good. It hasn't been since she sold before her death. I just found a shirt in my storage, from way back when and the fabric is incredibly good, unlike what we see today.

Re: Liz Claiborne and Isaac Mizrahi Live--Why the two separate lines?

apple1964 — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 00:07:49 GMT

O/P They are very different.. the sizing and the designers quality is very different.

Re: Liz Claiborne and Isaac Mizrahi Live--Why the two separate lines?

SunnyinSEPA — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 00:31:34 GMT

On 4/8/2014 PKB said:
Why the two separate lines? Because they are two separate designers! Just because some items are similar doesn't mean they should get rid of one of them.

My experience is the IML sizing runs smaller than the Liz line

"Mizrahi will remain chief designer of his brands, which include his lifestyle collection as well as his two lines for QVC, IsaacMizrahiLIVE and Liz Claiborne New York (not to be confused with the main Liz Claiborne line,..."

Re: Liz Claiborne and Isaac Mizrahi Live--Why the two separate lines?

Tinkrbl44 — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 01:08:01 GMT

On 4/8/2014 SunnyinSEPA said:
On 4/8/2014 PKB said:
Why the two separate lines? Because they are two separate designers! Just because some items are similar doesn't mean they should get rid of one of them.

My experience is the IML sizing runs smaller than the Liz line

"Mizrahi will remain chief designer of his brands, which include his lifestyle collection as well as his two lines for QVC, IsaacMizrahiLIVE and Liz Claiborne New York (not to be confused with the main Liz Claiborne line,..."

WHERE is this quote from ..... ?

Re: Liz Claiborne and Isaac Mizrahi Live--Why the two separate lines?

sunshine45 — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 01:16:26 GMT

On 4/8/2014 Tinkrbl44 said:
On 4/8/2014 SunnyinSEPA said:
On 4/8/2014 PKB said:
Why the two separate lines? Because they are two separate designers! Just because some items are similar doesn't mean they should get rid of one of them.

My experience is the IML sizing runs smaller than the Liz line

"Mizrahi will remain chief designer of his brands, which include his lifestyle collection as well as his two lines for QVC, IsaacMizrahiLIVE and Liz Claiborne New York (not to be confused with the main Liz Claiborne line,..."

WHERE is this quote from ..... ?

http://nymag.com/thecut/2011/09/isaac_mizrahi_sold_his_company.html

(this is the same company that just bought the judith ripka line) article is from 2011.

they are definitely two distinct lines. i dont buy from the lcny line....it is generally too conservative for me. i do like some of the IM clothing items and buy them (just bought a long tank he has in about 5 colors).....really love his bridgehampton line of handbags and scarves.

Re: Liz Claiborne and Isaac Mizrahi Live--Why the two separate lines?

SunnyinSEPA — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 01:41:23 GMT

On 4/8/2014 Tinkrbl44 said:
On 4/8/2014 SunnyinSEPA said:
On 4/8/2014 PKB said:
Why the two separate lines? Because they are two separate designers! Just because some items are similar doesn't mean they should get rid of one of them.

My experience is the IML sizing runs smaller than the Liz line

"Mizrahi will remain chief designer of his brands, which include his lifestyle collection as well as his two lines for QVC, IsaacMizrahiLIVE and Liz Claiborne New York (not to be confused with the main Liz Claiborne line,..."

WHERE is this quote from ..... ?

New York Magazine

Re: Liz Claiborne and Isaac Mizrahi Live--Why the two separate lines?

Sooner — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 01:50:38 GMT

It's all ""stuff"" (I'm still reeling from the other thread) made by QVC either owned or ""deal with"" factories I assume. You will see a lot of this crossover in the clothing and some of the other products on QVC.

Re: Liz Claiborne and Isaac Mizrahi Live--Why the two separate lines?

Desertdi — Wed, 09 Apr 2014 04:42:41 GMT

I'm sure poor Liz would roll over if she saw her name on this stuff...........