topic Re: David Dangle in Fashion

David Dangle

Reever — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 03:11:25 GMT

Anyone else wonder if David Dangle will ever change the name of the Joan Rivers line ? I know older women may appreciate Joan but how many women under 40 have an affinity for Joan Rivers? My twenty something niece and nephew claim they never heard of her. In order for the line to flourish they eventually will have to change the name of the line I believe. David Dangle needs to be business savy.

Re: David Dangle

Kachina624 — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 03:20:37 GMT

A brand name doesn't need to be the name of a real person. Ever see the "real" Betty Crocker, Mrs Butterworth, Little Debbie, Aunt Jemima, Marie Callendar? I'd say the line is designed to appeal to those who do remember the real Joan Rivers. If David wants to appeal to a younger buyer, he needs to do more than change the name; he needs to step up his game.

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World Traveler — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 03:21:53 GMT

I don't think the name will be changed because, as I understand it, it is Melissa Rivers who has the control over the line. I could be entirely wrong on this, but I read that she received "ownership" of it upon Joan's death and depends upon David to continue the line as her mother was guiding it. David and Joan traveled all over the world developing the line.

Like I said, I could be all wrong on this, but I have read that more than once, but it was a long time ago.

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Reever — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 03:25:31 GMT

Mellisa Rivers has shown no interest in the line. She may own the line but she has directed David Dangle to make every business decision. Mellisa Rivers in my opinion is a bit of a recluse. You just never see or her from her. Dangle for better or worse is running the show.

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grandma r — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 04:37:08 GMT

David and Joan were great friends. The line was based on her own tastes and wardrobe. I doubt David would change any of that out of loyalty to Joan.

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Carmie — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 04:50:22 GMT

Joan Rivers, the corporation, employed David Dangle as CEO to help design and promote clothing and jewelry for them. He is a representative for the company,and essentially runs it but does not own it, therefore; he can't change the name.

it wouldn't matter if Melissa is 100% involved or only 1% involved. If she inherited the business, it is hers.

I don't understand why anyone would want to change the name.

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Andreatoo — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 05:00:22 GMT

It would be fun to see what would be offered if the designers / vendors we're given free range but the bottom line on what you see goes to the buyers at QVC. It's no accident that it's sometimes hard to distinguish one line from the next

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Ifeelwicked — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 07:20:24 GMT

@World Traveler wrote:
I don't think the name will be changed because, as I understand it, it is Melissa Rivers who has the control over the line. I could be entirely wrong on this, but I read that she received "ownership" of it upon Joan's death and depends upon David to continue the line as her mother was guiding it. David and Joan traveled all over the world developing the line.

Like I said, I could be all wrong on this, but I have read that more than once, but it was a long time ago.

You are absolutely correct and the name will never be changed as long as Melissa is in charge. And why should it? Joan appealed to a certain type; classy and polished. (FYI, if you like something, buy it. It doesn’t matter whose name is on the tag.) And hey, do you think the day will ever come where the name Jeanne Bice does not follow Quacker Factory? Not in our lifetime. 😊

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Lilysmom — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 11:26:59 GMT

A brand name change is a huge decision for the company so I don’t see that happening. If they want to appeal to a younger/ broader audience I suspect the best way to do it is with a new line. You don’t make a name change without a lot of thought and planning. It takes years and $ to build a brand. LM

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shaggygirl — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 11:15:24 GMT

@Andreatoo wrote:
It would be fun to see what would be offered if the designers / vendors we're given free range but the bottom line on what you see goes to the buyers at QVC. It's no accident that it's sometimes hard to distinguish one line from the next

@Andreatoo When Joan was still here there was more variety in her line. As it is now either David or those QVC buyers you mention must love boyfriend shirts.

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jackthebear — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 11:47:41 GMT

@shaggygirl wrote:
@Andreatoo wrote:
It would be fun to see what would be offered if the designers / vendors we're given free range but the bottom line on what you see goes to the buyers at QVC. It's no accident that it's sometimes hard to distinguish one line from the next
@Andreatoo When Joan was still here there was more variety in her line. As it is now either David or those QVC buyers you mention must love boyfriend shirts.

when Joan was alive they copied a lot of her designer clothing.

Don't do that anymore, they could still do the dresses and jackets but maybe they don't sell well on the Q, which is very casual in the clothing they sell.

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Love to Run — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:26:28 GMT

The name of the brand doesn't matter. No one is going to make a purchase because of a brand name that is "exclusive" to QVC, and no one is going to decline to make a purchase because of the brand name, except maybe Quacker Factory

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software — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 12:49:27 GMT

Changing the name won't matter.

It's the design & marketing that sells.

Joan worked hard to build her brand.

Sometimes I think David thinks with his heart more than his head.

But I also think it's nice of Melissa to keep him in place.

Obviously she doesn't need the money.

The younger generation is too busy trying to keep up with Kardashians.

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cherry — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 13:13:15 GMT

I have quite a few *Joan *garments ,and none of them are boyfriend shirts, Her slacks and skirts are wonderful So are her jackets

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Skididdy — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:25:04 GMT

I do not think they will change the name or ever will !!!!!

David and her were very close. He knew her vision, her style, her likes, her dislikes, her wants, her needs, what worked for her, what did not work for her.

I believe in my opinion only... that they have gracefully and tastefully continued her wonderful line of clothing and accessories. David presents with class, reserve, he is humble, professional, informative, and he knows his stuff. He kept her vision of classic simple elegant style. The jewelry lately has been just outstanding.

I think they keep doing what they are doing....everyone needs a little JOAN in there wardrobe. David Dangle is the PERFECT representative of her and will always be.

I say keep things as they are.

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walkingal — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:39:46 GMT

@cherry wrote:
I have quite a few *Joan *garments ,and none of them are boyfriend shirts, Her slacks and skirts are wonderful So are her jackets

This is true when Joan was alive. But now the designs from this line are nothing that Joan would wear. I think this line has run its course. Either go back to Joan's classics, and that includes her classics jewelry line, or change the name.

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Caaareful Shopper — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:47:15 GMT

@Reever wrote:
Mellisa Rivers has shown no interest in the line. She may own the line but she has directed David Dangle to make every business decision. Mellisa Rivers in my opinion is a bit of a recluse. You just never see or her from her. Dangle for better or worse is running the show.

@Reever This is not true. Melissa is quite interested in the line and often gives her insight to new items. Just because she doesn't appear on-air with David doesn't mean she is not interested. Melissa has appeared many times in social media wearing the Joan Rivers items before they are officially presented on air. She has also loaned David Joan's original jewelery so David and his team can make replicas that he has presented on QVC.

So we may not see Melissa, and she let's David run it all, but she's quite involved to the point she wants to be.

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Shanus — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 18:23:58 GMT

@Skididdy wrote:
I do not think they will change the name or ever will !!!!!
David and her were very close. He knew her vision, her style, her likes, her dislikes, her wants, her needs, what worked for her, what did not work for her.

I believe in my opinion only... that they have gracefully and tastefully continued her wonderful line of clothing and accessories. David presents with class, reserve, he is humble, professional, informative, and he knows his stuff. He kept her vision of classic simple elegant style. The jewelry lately has been just outstanding.

I think they keep doing what they are doing....everyone needs a little JOAN in there wardrobe. David Dangle is the PERFECT representative of her and will always be.
I say keep things as they are.

@Skididdy Yep. Keep bringing on Joan’s (?) baggy, boyfriend shirts in every color and fabric. Yuck!

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suzyQ3 — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 18:31:49 GMT

Was never my style and doubt that any name change would alter that.

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corita — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 18:41:53 GMT

@software wrote:
Changing the name won't matter.
It's the design & marketing that sells.
Joan worked hard to build her brand.
Sometimes I think David thinks with his heart more than his head.
But I also think it's nice of Melissa to keep him in place.
Obviously she doesn't need the money.

The younger generation is too busy trying to keep up with Kardashians.
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I doubt many "younger" people ever shop for clothes on QVC!!! Know several friends and family with kids in their late 20's to late 30's....they laugh when they hear the name QVC!! Definitely not QVC customers...