topic Re: Misrepresentation of clothing on air in Fashion

Misrepresentation of clothing on air

on the bay — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:09:59 GMT

I was looking at that Logo dress on lunchtime specials and thought, actually that's pretty cute (even though I don't like a lot of her styles).

Then I noticed that the pictures on the website showed the dress with a very defined waist and thought well that would be a welcome and unusual thing as most all QVC tops and dresses seem pretty shapeless. I guess because that style fits most all.

Anyway, I took a closer look. You can see the fabric is pulled to the back somehow on the pictures.

Then I looked at the video and when showing the dresses from the hangars they were totally straight up and down-thus some people's reviews saying it looked like a shapeless nightgown.

On the models, Brenda had on a belt and you could see the extra fabric pulled to the sides.

The other model had on a sweater and everytime the camera was on her, she put one hand on her hip, creating another illusion of a waist!

This happens so many times on QVC! And probably one reason for many returns.

If the dress is straight up and down, don't make it seem like it has an hour-glass shape! That is just not a fair presentation of what it is.

I shouldn't have to inspect everything like I said above but the way things are altered to appear better, makes me not trust any of the presentations.

QVC, especially when selling on tv, and website, you owe it to your customers to honestly portray how the "fashions" appear without alterations!

Re: Misrepresentation of clothing on air

NanaLinda — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:13:06 GMT

I agree @on the bay...I absolutely HATE being deliberately deceived!

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Bri36 — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:15:50 GMT

I've seen giant clips on the back of garments sometimes.

I know the models are very thin and are usually swimming in the clothes, but it is deceitful to portray something that it's obviously not.

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ellaphant — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:28:27 GMT

never really noticed any issues in clothing..and it's very common in fashion to clip back extra material. Q clothing is cut HUGE ...as mst Q shoppers want everything covered.

That said it's the COSMETICS deception that I find appalling.

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millieshops — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:31:48 GMT

Which is why I read the click here measurements before I spend my money.

The days when I could walk through a store and see something on a manniquin and know how it was made or see something on any shopping channel and trust my eyesight are long gone.

I swear the whole world whether we're talking fashion and beauty or technology gadgets and politics is pretty much smoke and mirrors.

My 9th grade social studies teacher who repeated the words "caveat emptor" more times than a Q host says "it's on EZPay" was certainly right. And that was 1955!

Re: Misrepresentation of clothing on air

151949 — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:50:44 GMT

How could anyone possibly design clothing that will fit from an xxs to a 3x and have it be fitted at all? Impossible! Why a customer would expect that is a mystery to me.

Re: Misrepresentation of clothing on air

on the bay — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:02:47 GMT

@151949 wrote:
How could anyone possibly design clothing that will fit from an xxs to a 3x and have it be fitted at all? Impossible! Why a customer would expect that is a mystery to me.

That is not what this is about. No one is "expecting" that.

Just expecting it to be represented as it is-honestly.

Easy to understand.

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tends2dogs — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:09:43 GMT

Wow, I am going to be on the look out for the clips!

What bothers me is when the models keep their arms down to their sides so you can't see how the arm hole fits. Even in the pictures on line, it looks like they are deliberately held down.

I am purchasing less and less from the Q. I refuse to try a garment for around $12 (shipping costs). There are too many other online stores that offer free shipping and returns. I also enjoy going to a brick and mortar and trying on. You can find tops just like Susan Graver, Logo, Halston, etc for a third of the $$.

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Lipstickdiva — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:31:34 GMT

@151949 wrote:
How could anyone possibly design clothing that will fit from an xxs to a 3x and have it be fitted at all? Impossible! Why a customer would expect that is a mystery to me.

This is an odd comment. Don't manufacturers and designers do that all day everyday? Unless you are buying one of a kind, custom made clothing, if you go into the store there is a huge size range in the same item.

Of course not everything is going to be right for everyone's body shape but you can try on and see that. To show items altered on tv or in magazines isn't being honest.

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Lipstickdiva — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:30:45 GMT

@Bri36 wrote:
I've seen giant clips on the back of garments sometimes.

I know the models are very thin and are usually swimming in the clothes, but it is deceitful to portray something that it's obviously not.

I once saw a host on HSN in what looked like the cutest DG top. Surprised me because normally her stuff doesn't appeal to me. I noticed that as they presented the top, the host never turned around and it looked fuller through the body on the models. The camera panned out and caught the host from the side and there was a giant clip in the back making the top look much more fitted.

Another time the host was showing clothing and the model appeared very small and the sweater she was wearing seemed very fitted. The host asked her to turn around to show the back and she said she couldn't. The host commented about the models' jeans being cinched with a clip but I'll bet my last dollar it was the sweater that was clipped to make it more fitted.

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Perkup — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:36:41 GMT

When you're buying without trying, you have to realize that for a garment to fit from XXS to 3X, it's got to have a bit of "give" in the right places or it isn't going to work. I have changed sizes recently due to some health issues, and really can't count on any of the usual sizing to work for me. I'm having to return garments too often and can't order again until I get better information on sizing.

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Bri36 — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:39:14 GMT

@Lipstickdiva wrote:
@Bri36 wrote:
I've seen giant clips on the back of garments sometimes.

I know the models are very thin and are usually swimming in the clothes, but it is deceitful to portray something that it's obviously not.
I once saw a host on HSN in what looked like the cutest DG top. Surprised me because normally her stuff doesn't appeal to me. I noticed that as they presented the top, the host never turned around and it looked fuller through the body on the models. The camera panned out and caught the host from the side and there was a giant clip in the back making the top look much more fitted.

Another time the host was showing clothing and the model appeared very small and the sweater she was wearing seemed very fitted. The host asked her to turn around to show the back and she said she couldn't. The host commented about the models' jeans being cinched with a clip but I'll bet my last dollar it was the sweater that was clipped to make it more fitted.

That doesn't surprise me at all.

I bet that hosts and vendors have their outfits altered before a TSV too.

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Andreatoo — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:40:58 GMT

I'm more annoyed when they just don't show the garment very well! For example unless it's some sort of shapewear they NEVER show you where the waist line hits on a pair of pants!

Jennifer telling me that they hit at HER natural waist does me no good whatsoever!

Have you ever had a fashion presentation on but muted? I find when I do that that I have no idea which item they're presenting! It should be obvious, shouldn't it?

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chrystaltree — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 18:25:55 GMT

Like the mannequins in department stores, look in the back and there those giant clips pulling in the garment. Or fashion shows where the alter the clothes to fit the models. That's what the fashion industry does, why should QVC or any retailer be different? We aren't children, we all know that. Who looks a picture and has faith in that....lol Who in their right mind thinks that if we buy that top that Brenda the model was wearing....we in our size 16 will exactly like Brenda....lol They give us garment measurements for a reason. I don't think they expect us to use them for sizing, I think they expect that we will use the garment measures to guage the shape and dimensions in our own size so we visualize what it will look like. They sell things in xxs to 3x, so obviously a picture is just an idea of the garment.....it's not a promise.

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Bri36 — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 18:29:23 GMT

I expect a mannequin to have clips. I don't expect a person modeling something to have clips pinning a garment back.

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Lila4Now — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 18:37:32 GMT

Years ago I saw it mentioned here, in the forums one of the views from the side of a garment here at QVC showed a giant clip at the waist in back. I went and looked, sure enough, there it was!

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Lipstickdiva — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 18:39:14 GMT

@Bri36 wrote:
I expect a mannequin to have clips. I don't expect a person modeling something to have clips pinning a garment back.

Exactly. But some of the attitudes expressed here is why they can get away with stuff like that. Many accept it as the norm.

If a mannequin in a store has clips, I can see them. Plus in a store I can try the garment on. If I'm buying from tv or on-line, I rely on them to accurately represent an item. Garment measurements aren't always going to tell me how something will fit me as far as waist definition, etc. or how it will drape.

If someone is wearing a top with the back clipped in to make it super fitted and the host says the model is wearing her normal size, some may size up based on the way it's fitting the model.

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VanSleepy — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:07:49 GMT

I always figured the models had to have clips or something because there is no way the thin models could wear anything from here without swimming in it :-)

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tends2dogs — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:09:46 GMT

@chrystaltree wrote:
Like the mannequins in department stores, look in the back and there those giant clips pulling in the garment. Or fashion shows where the alter the clothes to fit the models. That's what the fashion industry does, why should QVC or any retailer be different? We aren't children, we all know that. Who looks a picture and has faith in that....lol Who in their right mind thinks that if we buy that top that Brenda the model was wearing....we in our size 16 will exactly like Brenda....lol They give us garment measurements for a reason. I don't think they expect us to use them for sizing, I think they expect that we will use the garment measures to guage the shape and dimensions in our own size so we visualize what it will look like. They sell things in xxs to 3x, so obviously a picture is just an idea of the garment.....it's not a promise.

@chrystaltree Of course they expect us to use them for sizing......why else would they tell us the size the models are wearing?? If they have a top clipped in the back of Brenda in an XXXXS that makes the top look like the waist is cinched in, then by all means 3X is going to think the waist of that garment cinches in. We can try on the clipped back top in a store. and see for ourselves. We are at the mercy of the host and models doing their job in a truthful manner.

No, I'm not a child, but I can't guess what a top is going to look like on me if it is pinned and clipped on the model. It is a false representation of a product.

As far as saying that a woman wearing a 3X thinking she is going to look like Brenda in an XXS would have to be "not in their right mind" is completely OT.

Re: Misrepresentation of clothing on air

VanSleepy — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:13:19 GMT

@151949 wrote:
How could anyone possibly design clothing that will fit from an xxs to a 3x and have it be fitted at all? Impossible! Why a customer would expect that is a mystery to me.

Is the dress OP is talking about supposed to be one-size-fits-all? Otherwise, I don't understand this comment.