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    <title>topic Re: Anyone know what HPS in &amp;quot;front body length from HPS means? in Fashion</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;The HPS is the high point of your shoulder. &amp;nbsp;It is the seam on the shirt that is stitched from the sleeve to the collar on both sides. &amp;nbsp;I hope this helps since there a diagram might explain it better.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2015 23:22:17 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>dbro</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-09-15T23:22:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Anyone know what HPS in "front body length from HPS means?</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Fashion/Anyone-know-what-HPS-in-quot-front-body-length-from-HPS-means/m-p/326384#M23873</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;On the off chance this may make a difference in fit for a top, just wondered what HPS means.  I am looking at a top that has the longer sides and not sure how this may figure in the equation.  I'm only 5' 3" tall with a short torso and have to be careful about lengths.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;P&gt;Thanks to all of you Divas who know these things.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 16:13:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>LogoFan</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-05-19T16:13:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Anyone know what HPS in "front body length from HPS means?</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Fashion/Anyone-know-what-HPS-in-quot-front-body-length-from-HPS-means/m-p/2138460#M270715</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The HPS is the high point of your shoulder. &amp;nbsp;It is the seam on the shirt that is stitched from the sleeve to the collar on both sides. &amp;nbsp;I hope this helps since there a diagram might explain it better.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2015 23:22:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>dbro</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-15T23:22:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Anyone know what HPS in "front body length from HPS means?</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Fashion/Anyone-know-what-HPS-in-quot-front-body-length-from-HPS-means/m-p/2138639#M270733</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you! &amp;nbsp;I have always wondered too.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2015 00:16:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mnmom</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-16T00:16:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Anyone know what HPS in "front body length from HPS means?</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Fashion/Anyone-know-what-HPS-in-quot-front-body-length-from-HPS-means/m-p/2138654#M270736</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I would love it if there was an online diagram here or if the hosts took the time to point out where that measurement comes from instead of discussing that this item can be worn here or there or with this or that etc. etc. etc.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2015 00:20:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Fashion/Anyone-know-what-HPS-in-quot-front-body-length-from-HPS-means/m-p/2138654#M270736</guid>
      <dc:creator>JustJazzmom</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-16T00:20:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Anyone know what HPS in "front body length from HPS means?</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Fashion/Anyone-know-what-HPS-in-quot-front-body-length-from-HPS-means/m-p/2139057#M270780</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/213072"&gt;@dbro&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The HPS is the high point of your shoulder&lt;/STRONG&gt;. &amp;nbsp;It is the seam on the shirt that is stitched from the sleeve to the collar on both sides. &amp;nbsp;I hope this helps since there a diagram might explain it better.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="2" color="#333399"&gt;It's also professionally&amp;nbsp;known&amp;nbsp;as the "CBL": &amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;center back length&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="2" color="#333399"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="2" color="#333399"&gt;When it comes to tops &lt;U&gt;and&lt;/U&gt; jackets, I almost-always just need that measurement since I'm 5'8" &lt;EM&gt;but&lt;/EM&gt; have my height in my long &lt;EM&gt;torso&lt;/EM&gt; (not my legs; boo!)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#333399"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="2" color="#333399"&gt;Once you know &lt;U&gt;your&lt;/U&gt; 'magical numbers' (length in inches for all kinds of tops, jackets/cardigans, and bottoms - length&lt;EM&gt; and&lt;/EM&gt;&amp;nbsp; rise), it makes shopping online, via catalogs, and in-person much easier. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#333399"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="2" color="#333399"&gt;And if they're not noted in a catalog or online, you can always just contact the vendor and/or&amp;nbsp;Google the manufacturer's size chart. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;img id="cattongue" class="emoticon emoticon-cattongue" src="https://community.qvc.com/i/smilies/16x16_cat-tongue.png" alt="Cat Tongue" title="Cat Tongue" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2015 02:39:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Fashion/Anyone-know-what-HPS-in-quot-front-body-length-from-HPS-means/m-p/2139057#M270780</guid>
      <dc:creator>feline groovy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-16T02:39:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Anyone know what HPS in "front body length from HPS means?</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Fashion/Anyone-know-what-HPS-in-quot-front-body-length-from-HPS-means/m-p/2139126#M270786</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/19656"&gt;@feline groovy&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/213072"&gt;@dbro&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The HPS is the high point of your shoulder&lt;/STRONG&gt;. &amp;nbsp;It is the seam on the shirt that is stitched from the sleeve to the collar on both sides. &amp;nbsp;I hope this helps since there a diagram might explain it better.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="2" color="#333399"&gt;It's also professionally&amp;nbsp;known&amp;nbsp;as the "CBL": &amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;center back length&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="2" color="#333399"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="2" color="#333399"&gt;When it comes to tops &lt;U&gt;and&lt;/U&gt; jackets, I almost-always just need that measurement since I'm 5'8" &lt;EM&gt;but&lt;/EM&gt; have my height in my long &lt;EM&gt;torso&lt;/EM&gt; (not my legs; boo!)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#333399"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="2" color="#333399"&gt;Once you know &lt;U&gt;your&lt;/U&gt; 'magical numbers' (length in inches for all kinds of tops, jackets/cardigans, and bottoms - length&lt;EM&gt; and&lt;/EM&gt;&amp;nbsp; rise), it makes shopping online, via catalogs, and in-person much easier. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#333399"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="2" color="#333399"&gt;And if they're not noted in a catalog or online, you can always just contact the vendor and/or&amp;nbsp;Google the manufacturer's size chart. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;img id="cattongue" class="emoticon emoticon-cattongue" src="https://community.qvc.com/i/smilies/16x16_cat-tongue.png" alt="Cat Tongue" title="Cat Tongue" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="lucida sans unicode,lucida sans" color="#0000FF"&gt;I only hope all those who are doing the measuring are actually giving us the equivalent of the "center back length" (as those of us who sew, or used to sew, know).&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="lucida sans unicode,lucida sans" color="#0000FF"&gt;Sometimes I think they measure from the point AT the shoulder instead of near the neck (which is higher - or should be).&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="lucida sans unicode,lucida sans" color="#0000FF"&gt;I've begun to look at the photos and, if I need a top to be the length I want, I'll check to make sure the sleeve length (provided it's a long sleeve) is the same or shorter than the length of the garment. &amp;nbsp;I know the garment body is long enough for me if it's longer than the (long) sleeve. &amp;nbsp;(This is what I like; I'm not saying this is what everyone needs or wants.)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2015 03:07:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Fashion/Anyone-know-what-HPS-in-quot-front-body-length-from-HPS-means/m-p/2139126#M270786</guid>
      <dc:creator>GingerPeach</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-16T03:07:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Anyone know what HPS in "front body length from HPS means?</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Fashion/Anyone-know-what-HPS-in-quot-front-body-length-from-HPS-means/m-p/2141215#M270975</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1254"&gt;@GingerPeach&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/19656"&gt;@feline groovy&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/213072"&gt;@dbro&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The HPS is the high point of your shoulder&lt;/STRONG&gt;. &amp;nbsp;It is the seam on the shirt that is stitched from the sleeve to the collar on both sides. &amp;nbsp;I hope this helps since there a diagram might explain it better.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="2" color="#333399"&gt;It's also professionally&amp;nbsp;known&amp;nbsp;as the "CBL": &amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;center back length&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="2" color="#333399"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="2" color="#333399"&gt;When it comes to tops &lt;U&gt;and&lt;/U&gt; jackets, I almost-always just need that measurement since I'm 5'8" &lt;EM&gt;but&lt;/EM&gt; have my height in my long &lt;EM&gt;torso&lt;/EM&gt; (not my legs; boo!)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#333399"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="2" color="#333399"&gt;Once you know &lt;U&gt;your&lt;/U&gt; 'magical numbers' (length in inches for all kinds of tops, jackets/cardigans, and bottoms - length&lt;EM&gt; and&lt;/EM&gt;&amp;nbsp; rise), it makes shopping online, via catalogs, and in-person much easier. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#333399"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="2" color="#333399"&gt;And if they're not noted in a catalog or online, you can always just contact the vendor and/or&amp;nbsp;Google the manufacturer's size chart. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;img id="cattongue" class="emoticon emoticon-cattongue" src="https://community.qvc.com/i/smilies/16x16_cat-tongue.png" alt="Cat Tongue" title="Cat Tongue" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="lucida sans unicode,lucida sans" color="#0000FF"&gt;I only hope all those who are doing the measuring are actually giving us the equivalent of the "center back length" (as those of us who sew, or used to sew, know).&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="lucida sans unicode,lucida sans" color="#FF0000"&gt;Sometimes I think they measure from the point AT the shoulder &lt;STRONG&gt;instead of near the neck&lt;/STRONG&gt; (which is higher - or should be).&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="lucida sans unicode,lucida sans" color="#0000FF"&gt;I've begun to look at the photos and, if I need a top to be the length I want, I'll check to make sure the sleeve length (provided it's a long sleeve) is the same or shorter than the length of the garment. &amp;nbsp;I know the garment body is long enough for me if it's longer than the (long) sleeve. &amp;nbsp;(This is what I like; I'm not saying this is what everyone needs or wants.)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="2" color="#008000"&gt;I also would appreciate if manufacturers gave us the measurement&amp;nbsp;from the &lt;U&gt;highest&lt;/U&gt; point for tops/jackets&lt;STRONG&gt;:&lt;/STRONG&gt; &amp;nbsp;the &lt;U&gt;neck&lt;/U&gt;.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2" color="#008000"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;When it's not noted on Ebay or wherever, I just ask for the number of inches from &lt;STRONG&gt;"&lt;/STRONG&gt;the top of the item to the bottom - a.k.a. the center back length&lt;STRONG&gt;"&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2" color="#008000"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;That way, the vendor can also learn something new, and perhaps include it in future listings to help their customers.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2" color="#008000"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Listing that number - along with the chest measurement - has been getting increasingly important over the years, especially with the obesity epidemic (adults &lt;EM&gt;and&lt;/EM&gt;&amp;nbsp; kids).&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" size="2" color="#008000"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;It also helps the business, since therre's less returns/exchanges and more overall customer satisfaction.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2015 23:03:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Fashion/Anyone-know-what-HPS-in-quot-front-body-length-from-HPS-means/m-p/2141215#M270975</guid>
      <dc:creator>feline groovy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-16T23:03:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Anyone know what HPS in "front body length from HPS means?</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Fashion/Anyone-know-what-HPS-in-quot-front-body-length-from-HPS-means/m-p/2142571#M271026</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/10236"&gt;@LogoFan﻿&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.qvc.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/12851i2B82EBEFD1CA3F0C/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="image.jpg" title="image.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2015 14:32:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Fashion/Anyone-know-what-HPS-in-quot-front-body-length-from-HPS-means/m-p/2142571#M271026</guid>
      <dc:creator>LTT1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-17T14:32:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Anyone know what HPS in "front body length from HPS means?</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Fashion/Anyone-know-what-HPS-in-quot-front-body-length-from-HPS-means/m-p/2142667#M271034</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Talking about measurements IN GENERAL, and not necessarily QVC:&amp;nbsp; Wondering why there isn't a Tummy measurement for pants that have a waistband way below the belly button.&amp;nbsp; In other words, measuring our waistline, which is often smaller than our Tummy measurements, how would we know if the dropped waistline pants would fit over our tummies?&amp;nbsp; Shouldn't there be a 'Tummy' measurement listed?&amp;nbsp; Again, in general, because most&amp;nbsp;QVC pants aren't low-dropped waistlines.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:04:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ROMARY</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-17T15:04:38Z</dc:date>
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