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Isaac's lace dress~is it the very same one that...

Bubbles219 — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 16:49:02 GMT

I apologize if someone has already posted this but I was at my local Sam's Club yesterday and they have for sale a lace dress by Isaac that I believe to be the very same dress that was the TSV just a few days ago. It comes in the very same colors as the TSV but I am not sure if it is the very same lace pattern. The dress is lined except for the sleeves~just as the TSV dress is. By the way, the dress is under $20 too. Just a heads up for those that may want to check out their local club store for themselves.

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Chrystaltree2 — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 17:04:01 GMT

..someome should let Isaac know that some company is putting out knockoffs under his name.

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RetRN — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 17:06:51 GMT

Interesting post OP. The price is terrific too.

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millieshops — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 17:22:30 GMT

Probably not exactly the same, but if you're not going to wear that lace dress lots of times you might not even care.

I'm a firm believer that most of the time, I get what I pay for in clothing, but it's like anything else. If you can't tell the difference or you have reason to believe you're buying a fad, I'd buy the less expensive item.

About 97% of my clothes are items I know I'll want to wear again and again. I'd rather pay for the quality I want than have to shop for a replacement the next season. I don't remember if this is how I felt 50 years ago! Probably not.

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Bubbles219 — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 17:24:17 GMT

On 3/24/2015 Chrystaltree said:
..someome should let Isaac know that some company is putting out knockoffs under his name.

The dress has an Isaac Mizrahi label sewn into it. The quality is very nice as well. Sam's has had several other Isaac pieces for sale in the past ~though none appeared to be similar to the ones for sale here at QVC.

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Chrystaltree2 — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 17:51:36 GMT

On 3/24/2015 cottage~in~the~valley said:
On 3/24/2015 Chrystaltree said:
..someome should let Isaac know that some company is putting out knockoffs under his name.

The dress has an Isaac Mizrahi label sewn into it. The quality is very nice as well. Sam's has had several other Isaac pieces for sale in the past ~though none appeared to be similar to the ones for sale here at QVC.

Knock offs always have a well know designer label. That's the whole point. You have to use some common sense with stuff like that. If indeed those $20 dresses in a big box wharehouse store have have the Isaac Mizrahi label, they must be knockoffs. He wouldn't cheapen his brand like that and he wouldn't complete with his QVC merchandise. Not to mention the legal ramifcations with QVC.

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Chrystaltree2 — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 17:57:17 GMT

On 3/24/2015 millieshops said:
Probably not exactly the same, but if you're not going to wear that lace dress lots of times you might not even care.

I'm a firm believer that most of the time, I get what I pay for in clothing, but it's like anything else. If you can't tell the difference or you have reason to believe you're buying a fad, I'd buy the less expensive item.

About 97% of my clothes are items I know I'll want to wear again and again. I'd rather pay for the quality I want than have to shop for a replacement the next season. I don't remember if this is how I felt 50 years ago! Probably not.

...not to mention that no one knows if the no-name dress is identical to Isaac's tsv dress because we don't have both dresses to compare with each other . I suspect the "quality" thing kicks in sometime after age 40; I know I feel the same way that you do. I don't want disposable clothing and I don't something that "looks like" a quality piece. Wear it one summer and toss it, doesn't appeal to me anymore. I know I didn't feel that way 15 years ago, probably not even 10 years ago. We live and we learn.

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magicmoodz — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 18:10:04 GMT

On 3/24/2015 Chrystaltree said:
On 3/24/2015 cottage~in~the~valley said:
On 3/24/2015 Chrystaltree said:
..someome should let Isaac know that some company is putting out knockoffs under his name.

The dress has an Isaac Mizrahi label sewn into it. The quality is very nice as well. Sam's has had several other Isaac pieces for sale in the past ~though none appeared to be similar to the ones for sale here at QVC.

Knock offs always have a well know designer label. That's the whole point. You have to use some common sense with stuff like that. If indeed those $20 dresses in a big box wharehouse store have have the Isaac Mizrahi label, they must be knockoffs. He wouldn't cheapen his brand like that and he wouldn't complete with his QVC merchandise. Not to mention the legal ramifcations with QVC.

I don't believe your statements to be true. Do you really think Sam's is going to sell counterfeit dresses? I don't. As you clearly stated, there would be serious legal ramifications.

Let's not forget that Isaac had a line at Target years ago.

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gabstoomuch — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 18:15:11 GMT

I find Isaac's stuff in my Sam's Club all the time. I got 2 colors of his boyfriend sweater for 18 bucks each.

I find with all clothes at Sam's that I have to examine things very, very closely. I find other 'designer labels' there too.

I don't believe they are knock-offs. Sam's is too big of a corporation to go down that rabbit hole.

What I think is that Sam's buys the 1st quality rejects. Defects that are not so 'bad' that they are not saleable. Sam's sells the 2nds is what I think.

I have to measure each arm of a sweater, each leg of pants, test the feel of the armhole at the armpit. Those are tiny quality issues that would knock a garment into 2nds. A sleeve can be 1/4 of an inch shorter than the other. The circumference of the armhole can be a teeny bit 'off', and for some people they would feel it.

But I have found some unbelievable pieces at Sam's because things like a sleeve being 1/4" shorter on a sweater does not bother me a bit. I push up my sleeves anyway.

$18.00 vs $54.00?? Big savings, same designer.

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Sunnycorle — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 19:20:37 GMT

I am sure Isaac is selling a similiar line at Sam's. He is putting his name on everything these days. Anything for the mighty dollar.

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terrier3 — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 19:21:55 GMT

On 3/24/2015 LisaB said:
I am sure Isaac is selling a similiar line at Sam's. He is putting his name on everything these days. Anything for the mighty dollar.

I thought he SOLD his business a while ago - including rights to his name.

The new corporation is placing his products, not Isaac.

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Luv_My_Beagle — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 19:38:29 GMT

On 3/24/2015 magicmoodz said:
On 3/24/2015 Chrystaltree said:
On 3/24/2015 cottage~in~the~valley said:
On 3/24/2015 Chrystaltree said:
..someome should let Isaac know that some company is putting out knockoffs under his name.

The dress has an Isaac Mizrahi label sewn into it. The quality is very nice as well. Sam's has had several other Isaac pieces for sale in the past ~though none appeared to be similar to the ones for sale here at QVC.

Knock offs always have a well know designer label. That's the whole point. You have to use some common sense with stuff like that. If indeed those $20 dresses in a big box wharehouse store have have the Isaac Mizrahi label, they must be knockoffs. He wouldn't cheapen his brand like that and he wouldn't complete with his QVC merchandise. Not to mention the legal ramifcations with QVC.

I don't believe your statements to be true. Do you really think Sam's is going to sell counterfeit dresses? I don't. As you clearly stated, there would be serious legal ramifications.

Let's not forget that Isaac had a line at Target years ago.

I don't think it would be a "knockoff" either....

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mizzpeabody — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 19:42:29 GMT

I went to my local Sam's to check out the dress and after seeing it I'm glad I went ahead and ordered the TSV. The Sam's Club IM dress isn't terrible, but it is not the same...not even close. It has a fitted shape and is very stretchy. The outer lace material looks spandex-y to me, it would look like a swim cover up if it didn't have the lining.

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Clover29 — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 19:49:28 GMT

It's not like he's a fancy expensive designer. If he once sold his stuff at Target, he's not too lah di dah for Sam's Club.

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2cockers1cat — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 20:06:25 GMT

On 3/24/2015 terrier3 said:
On 3/24/2015 LisaB said:
I am sure Isaac is selling a similiar line at Sam's. He is putting his name on everything these days. Anything for the mighty dollar.

I thought he SOLD his business a while ago - including rights to his name.

The new corporation is placing his products, not Isaac.

Xcel Brands owns Isaac, Liz and Judith brands. The philosophy of this corporation is wherever the customer shops, our labels will be there. Right now, for those 3 labels,that is QVC and Sam's.
I think Kleinfeld's Bridal will market gowns with Isaac's name.

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Shaunac — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 20:14:17 GMT

On 3/24/2015 Chrystaltree said:
On 3/24/2015 cottage~in~the~valley said:
On 3/24/2015 Chrystaltree said:
..someome should let Isaac know that some company is putting out knockoffs under his name.

The dress has an Isaac Mizrahi label sewn into it. The quality is very nice as well. Sam's has had several other Isaac pieces for sale in the past ~though none appeared to be similar to the ones for sale here at QVC.

Knock offs always have a well know designer label. That's the whole point. You have to use some common sense with stuff like that. If indeed those $20 dresses in a big box wharehouse store have have the Isaac Mizrahi label, they must be knockoffs. He wouldn't cheapen his brand like that and he wouldn't complete with his QVC merchandise. Not to mention the legal ramifcations with QVC.

Lots of manufacturers make similar items, but slightly different, for different stores. I found the same exact capris in Kohl's as I did in JCP, but they had different colors in each store. I would bet that there is something slightly different in the Sam's dress than the dress made for QVC. The lace may be different, the length, the sleeves. Same thing with Keds shoes. Kohl's and JCP both carry them, but different styles. There have been posts here saying people have seen Stan Herman items in Sam's as well as on QVC. It benefits the manufacturer to sell to different stores. They reach different (and more) clientele this way.

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Sooner — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 20:37:30 GMT

On 3/24/2015 Chrystaltree said:
On 3/24/2015 cottage~in~the~valley said:
On 3/24/2015 Chrystaltree said:
..someome should let Isaac know that some company is putting out knockoffs under his name.

The dress has an Isaac Mizrahi label sewn into it. The quality is very nice as well. Sam's has had several other Isaac pieces for sale in the past ~though none appeared to be similar to the ones for sale here at QVC.

Knock offs always have a well know designer label. That's the whole point. You have to use some common sense with stuff like that. If indeed those $20 dresses in a big box wharehouse store have have the Isaac Mizrahi label, they must be knockoffs. He wouldn't cheapen his brand like that and he wouldn't complete with his QVC merchandise. Not to mention the legal ramifcations with QVC.

Isaac cheapened his brands a long time ago. That horse has been out of the barn for a zillion years.

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lulu2 — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 20:49:48 GMT

On 3/24/2015 magicmoodz said:
I don't believe your statements to be true. Do you really think Sam's is going to sell counterfeit dresses? I don't. As you clearly stated, there would be serious legal ramifications.

Let's not forget that Isaac had a line at Target years ago.

"Counterfeit QVC clothes" makes me

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JaniceB2 — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 20:54:32 GMT

I bought the Sam's Club dress and the QVC dress. Totally different. QVC dress is much better quality than the one from Sam's Club. It was a relief to me because I was afraid it was going to turn out to be the same dress and my faith in Q quality has been dwindling, but this Isaac dress is a great buy at the TSV price and much nicer than the Sam's Club version.

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BigOrangeKitty — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 21:51:45 GMT

THANK YOU, Mizz and Janice for comparing these and letting us know!