topic Re: Defies Logic in Fashion

Defies Logic

rexer — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 18:05:45 GMT

What's up with all of the inconsistent apparal sizing. QVC management has got to be aware of all of the complaints written about this subject. What happend to the days when garment measurements were displayed in the graphics for clothes shown during on-air presentations? How can a consumer make an informed decision on what size to buy? Also, what is to be gained when QVC has the gall to send reprimand letters to some of its customers scolding them for too many returns! Is this a concious decision made by QVC management to cultivate a love/hate relationship with its customers?

I understand QVC cannot control how clothing manufacturers cut & sew their clothes, and measurements get lost in translation between the designer & the manufacturing facility. BUT QVC claims to have quailty control, certainly that should include measuring garments when they reach their facility to determine the actual sizing for their consumers so we don't have to guess.

Come on QVC, who are you trying to fool?

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BOYINTX — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 18:34:56 GMT

my guess is quality control ? my suggestion is find 2 designers and stick with them.

As far as the rep on return that is sad

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Kathlen — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 18:47:00 GMT

If you know your body measurements, and the amount of positive/negative wearing ease you like - it's really easy to check garment measurements and find the correct size.

If you can't figure out "ease" ... measure something in your closet and use those measurements to figure out the correct size.

If you don't know what wearing ease is ... google it.

The stuff I buy always fits me.

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cosmic1 — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 18:55:49 GMT

It used to be that if you knew your size, every line carried by QVC would fit the same. So, if I am an XL in D&C, then I can buy an XL in Quacker Factory, Susan Graver, GILI, etc. Somewhere along the line that changed - I think in the past 2 or 3 years.

Even when I follow the measurement guide with an item and measure along, I will get clothing that is too small or huge on me. It really is ridiculous. I'm tired of going to the Post Office to send stuff back, so I've bought some items from HSN and they fit just fine and I like the clothes. Iman, Antthony and DG have been good experiences so far. HSN even has a calculator that you plug your measurements into and it will tell you what size to order. I ordered a pair of DG jeggings and the size I was told to buy was smaller than my normal size and they fit perfectly.

It's not so hard to enforce quality and QVC used to do it well, but they don't seem to give a rip anymore.

Re: Defies Logic

rexer — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 19:10:24 GMT

On 10/9/2014 BOYINTX said:
my guess is quality control ? my suggestion is find 2 designers and stick with them.

As far as the rep on return that is sad

A good suggestion, only problem is one designer can use multiple manufacturers/facilities to mass produce their collection. Depending upon the designers choice of manufacturer for a particular garment, there are still inconsistencies in sizing for different types of garments from different facilities.

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hopeQ1 — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 19:11:23 GMT

Oh Gawd, do we have to do this AGAIN ?

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donuts — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 19:38:51 GMT

I had no idea that QVC was sending customers letters about too many returns.....I am surprised at that !!!!!

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Lipstickdiva — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 20:06:22 GMT

Sizing is inconsistent everywhere, including dept. stores. I can try on 3 pair of jeans, all the same size, all the same brand, and they will all fit differently.

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gazelle77 — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 20:17:51 GMT

This has been my gripe for years now. They give the length of a garment....I need hip and bust measurements when watching TV. The length does me no good.

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QMaven — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 20:22:16 GMT

On 10/9/2014 hopeQ1 said:
Oh Gawd, do we have to do this AGAIN ?

No one is asking you to do anything. But those having sizing issues may wish to discuss the problem. If this is not a problem for you, then perhaps you should skip posts such as these.

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millieshops — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 20:41:03 GMT

What I want to know is where to go shop so that everything that's marked with the same size is actually the same size.

I'm not finding that any where although I do come close to 100% with Susan Graver. I don't even want edgy fashion, just casual basics.

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DoneTryin — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 20:43:48 GMT

On 10/9/2014 millieshops said:
What I want to know is where to go shop so that everything that's marked with the same size is actually the same size.

I'm not finding that any where although I do come close to 100% with Susan Graver. I don't even want edgy fashion, just casual basics.

I've found consistent sizing with items I've purchased from Lands End.

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chrystaltree — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 21:07:33 GMT

I don't get it. I rarely have any sizing problems with QVC clothing. That's one of the reasons why I shop here. I know my size, I know what I order will fit. However, I only buy things from 4 or 5 clothing lines. I know the fit and I know what works for me. Almost all the women I am close to in my personal life and at work are QVC shoppers and no one ever talks about sizing problems. But...we know our own measurements, we never assume we wear a certain size and we use the charts. I think some women are so hung up on a particular number that they just can't adjust. I think this is an amazing way to shop but it isn't it for everyone.

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Kathlen — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 21:15:56 GMT

On 10/9/2014 chrystaltree said:
I don't get it. I rarely have any sizing problems with QVC clothing. That's one of the reasons why I shop here. I know my size, I know what I order will fit. However, I only buy things from 4 or 5 clothing lines. I know the fit and I know what works for me. Almost all the women I am close to in my personal life and at work are QVC shoppers and no one ever talks about sizing problems. But...we know our own measurements, we never assume we wear a certain size and we use the charts. I think some women are so hung up on a particular number that they just can't adjust. I think this is an amazing way to shop but it isn't it for everyone.

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evergreen — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 21:49:39 GMT

I don't usually have any problem with tops but pants and jeans are a different subject and I never buy them any longer.

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Q4u — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 22:51:15 GMT

On 10/9/2014 cosmic1 said:
It used to be that if you knew your size, every line carried by QVC would fit the same. So, if I am an XL in D&C, then I can buy an XL in Quacker Factory, Susan Graver, GILI, etc. Somewhere along the line that changed - I think in the past 2 or 3 years.

Even when I follow the measurement guide with an item and measure along, I will get clothing that is too small or huge on me. It really is ridiculous. I'm tired of going to the Post Office to send stuff back, so I've bought some items from HSN and they fit just fine and I like the clothes. Iman, Antthony and DG have been good experiences so far. HSN even has a calculator that you plug your measurements into and it will tell you what size to order. I ordered a pair of DG jeggings and the size I was told to buy was smaller than my normal size and they fit perfectly.

It's not so hard to enforce quality and QVC used to do it well, but they don't seem to give a rip anymore.

YES! the sizing on the measurement guide is not always accurate. I'm an ex sewer, I know garment size, ease, where the measurements are taken and even then, I've received garments that don't fit, either too big or too small or weird fit. ALL of QVC's clothing used to adhere to the same sizing, no matter the designer, and now it doesn't. I rarely buy clothing any more. An occasional QF or Bob Mackie but even then there have been surprises.

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abbeythe 8th — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 23:04:58 GMT

On 10/9/2014 chrystaltree said:
I don't get it. I rarely have any sizing problems with QVC clothing. That's one of the reasons why I shop here. I know my size, I know what I order will fit. However, I only buy things from 4 or 5 clothing lines. I know the fit and I know what works for me. Almost all the women I am close to in my personal life and at work are QVC shoppers and no one ever talks about sizing problems. But...we know our own measurements, we never assume we wear a certain size and we use the charts. I think some women are so hung up on a particular number that they just can't adjust. I think this is an amazing way to shop but it isn't it for everyone.

In the past I ordered the same pants in different colors from D&C. The fit was different. CS said it was probably because different colors were manufactured in different countries. Some countries were more stringent than others about adhering to the specs.

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bonnielu — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 23:11:39 GMT

We always hear from QVC---- if you don't like it SEND IT BACK. That seems to be one of their selling points. So letters seem unfair. We cannot try it on, we cannot look at it in person, etc. As for fit. Even with a chart sometimes fabric makes a difference. There are variables. I can wear one size in Denim and Co and another in "whatever" is being sold just by the construction of one or more parts of a garment. Elastic and stretch goes a long way to make something fit or NOT. In my case I have to worry about overall length.

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KippyK3 — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 23:44:36 GMT

I am sorry to hear this. I do agree that sizing is not as consistent as it should be. Since I discovered the (click here) for garment measurements charts, I don't have issues with sizing. It doesn't matter what size I think I should wear. I always check those charts against my true measurements, and then order accordingly. For every single order, period. (Yep, it's kind of a hassle.) 99% of the time, I have found the charts to be accurate. Now, I may not like the way something fits/looks on me, but that is my fault for ordering that style. Quality? That's where I have a problem.

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kittymomNC — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 23:56:32 GMT

Once again there are those whose garments always fit perfectly. I think that's wonderful and hope you continue to be so lucky.

Unfortunately, there are many of us who get things that don't fit properly, and it is NOT because we don't know how to measure ourselves, or compare our measurements to the garment measurements listed. I think most of us have been buying clothes long enough to know how to do that and don't need to be instructed ... nor do we need those "lucky" ones to insinuate that it must be our fault, just because they haven't had it happen to them. Maybe it depends on what you're buying.

However, as I've said many times, and as many clothing reviews show, there is a lot of inconsistency in the Q's sizing. There is just no getting around it. If I order based on a garment measurement of 41" in the bust, or 40 inches in the hips, or whatever it says, then I expect that garment to measure the same when I get it home. I know how to measure the garments just as I know how to measure myself. And if the bust on a garment is 43" instead of 41", or if the hip measures 39" when it should be 41", THEN THERE IS A PROBLEM AND IT IS NOT WITH ME.

When I buy 3 colors of the same garment, and two fit perfectly but one is way off, the problem is not with ME. If I buy jeans in a size 10 that fit perfectly, and then they bring the same jeans out only with a different bottom leg opening, and garment measurements SAY they are the same as the previous ones, then whose fault is it when I get them home and I wind up having to size up a whole size because the actual garment does not measure what it's supposed to? That problem is not with ME.

So again, for those who are lucky enough to always get garments that fit, please stop patronizing those of us who have problems just because you don't.

Edited to add: I don't give a rip what the number size is - I'm not vain enough to let that bother me. I just want the garment measurements to be what they're supposed to be, so the garment will fit.