topic Re: Why? in Fashion

Why?

Maxine49 — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 05:42:45 GMT

Why does Lori Goldstein get a "screen shot' presentation of a $69.95 necklace, yet Louis does not? He has only twice, since the introduction of his jewelry line, presented pieces on air---the watch a couple of years ago, and then recently another watch and a pair of earrings on air with Alberti---but no videos with either item on line.

I am just so puzzled as to why his Linea jewelry is on-line only. I guess the only consolation is that we are competing with less people for the jewelry items we want. But on the other hand, if the Linea jewelry was presented on air, there would be a lot larger order/inventory.

It's just very frustrating.............

Re: Why?

Nancy Drew — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 05:47:42 GMT

For some reason Lori is QVC's new darling. I find her over priced for what she brings. I have no problem spending money if it is quality. Her items look very Walmart to me. TSV looks cheap but yet the price isn't.

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moonstone dunes — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 05:52:12 GMT

"Take a simple tee from ho-hum to high-impact with this bedazzling collar-style necklace from LOGO Links" ...hmmm ho-hum top, needs the bling.

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adelle38 — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 06:26:37 GMT

Apparently, thousands of QVC customers love her designs and they sell.

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Barbara in Virginia — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 06:39:19 GMT

Marketing and air time have something to do with the quantity QVC sells. The Q has been pushing Lori's line for some time now. For all we know they have bought her line as they did Susan Graver. Their profit margin is greater with the lines they own.

Back before QVC tried to get rid of Louis with the change in management, he had at least 2 TSVs a year and was frequently on. Sales were great. Much more selection and greater quantities. The Q doesn't own his line and I doubt he would ever accept that arrangement.

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blinddogs — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 14:36:52 GMT

Barbara is absolutely correct. Since Linea returned to QVC he has had just ONE TSV: the ponte peplum jacket. The TSV is a way to introduce a line to a broad range of customers, since many make a point to check what the TSV is and the huge amount of air time given to a TSV is a great marketing tool for a designer.

Lori G.'s items are fine for those who like them, but they are not exactly design rocket science. Flowy tee tops and tunics and uneven hemlines are not going to get you into the Coty designer hall of fame. But given enough air time and promotion, she can sell a lot of them.

As we know, Louis retains control of the design, fabric selection and manufacturing of his line. He is not simply lending his name to something that is mass-produced with minimal involvement in the actual process.

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millieshops — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 14:45:48 GMT

Some designers elsewhere limit numbers to keep their lines "exclusive." Even if this isn't what Louis is doing, his things are not going to show up on ebay with 3 or 4 thousand of them for sale at the same time! That should be worth something.

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BOYINTX — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 14:48:44 GMT

It is a joke-- IT HAS TO BE A TEST.. and a cruel one at that.

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queendiva — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 14:51:35 GMT

Big difference is that Louis is an award wining "high end" designer and Lori is a stylist. I have a few of her pieces (cardigans, straight leg knit pants) from her first year on the Q. Bought at clearance or on the bay- her Q prices are ridiculous. They are well made and nice for casual wear. They are not to be mistaken in any way for the quality and fit of Linea. Her rayon/span looks flimsy at best-no wonder she styles everything in multiple layers. Her styles must be popular, as they are available from many other retailers. I recently bought a tunic in the style from Lands End. Great quality modal/span blend for a fraction of the price of a LG tunic on the Q.

I don't mind that Linea jewelry is OLO. I like that the pieces are limited and exclusive. I do not like to see my jewelry/accessories "coming and going".

Re: Why?

Maxine49 — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 15:05:46 GMT

On 10/6/2014 queendiva said:OLO. I like that the pieces are limited and exclusive. I do not like to see my jewelry/accessories "coming and going".

I agree---that is the "upside" of OLO. But when I saw that mess of a necklace that Lori was selling, I just had to shake my head......

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Marlyn1 — Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:13:37 GMT

It's called preferential treatment. Nothing new at the Q. It's not fair, but that's the way it is.

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johowie2010 — Tue, 07 Oct 2014 03:59:39 GMT

I remember the Jessica Holbrook line that the Q used to sell. I still have an incredible lamb leather blazer and some silk blouses from this line. This kind of quality is timeless. I've worn the blouses and jacket for over twenty years and they're still looking new. The Linea line is one of the few quality lines the Q has anymore.

Re: Why?

baddest_dog — Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:51:23 GMT

On 10/6/2014 queendiva said:
Big difference is that Louis is an award wining "high end" designer and Lori is a stylist. I have a few of her pieces (cardigans, straight leg knit pants) from her first year on the Q. Bought at clearance or on the bay- her Q prices are ridiculous. They are well made and nice for casual wear. They are not to be mistaken in any way for the quality and fit of Linea. Her rayon/span looks flimsy at best-no wonder she styles everything in multiple layers. Her styles must be popular, as they are available from many other retailers. I recently bought a tunic in the style from Lands End. Great quality modal/span blend for a fraction of the price of a LG tunic on the Q.

I don't mind that Linea jewelry is OLO. I like that the pieces are limited and exclusive. I do not like to see my jewelry/accessories "coming and going".

I agree with a lot of this. I prefer the classic, shaped, fitted, well designed clothes of a real designer like Louis. However, in this day and age they sell to the mass market. While I dressed for success every day of my working life until retirement, I saw more and more women weating not only casual clothes, but inappropriate clothes for any business. Never in my life did a company have to enforce a dress code policy so strictly until the last few years. Why? Because women pushed the envelope of "casual" more and more to see how far they could go.

When I saw younger women coming to work in tops that were so low cut, you could see cleavage and body tattoos, I complained to management. We were seeing patients every day, even if they did not have direct contact with patients, they wore badges identifying themselves as employees. I was ashamed at times to work there. In the summer, flip flops, thong sandals, and leggings all became part of what these women wore.

With all that said, I think Lori's line sells more because that is how women want to dress for the majority of them. While I don't see anyone in my town walking around in 3 different tops all of different hem styles and layers, I do see sloppy t-shirts, sweatpants, and shapeless garments on many women. The world has changed and unfortunately the real designers are not designing for the masses. The Q sells what the masses want.

And IMO, Lori is not a designer. She styled people in other designers clothes, then started her line. To me it is a one trick pony, same fabrics, uneven hems, add a pocket, take away a pocket, all the same. I don't know her history but unlike Louis, Bob Mackie and George Simonton who all know how to make a pattern and cut and sew a garment, I doubt that she has that ability.

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HAPPY LADY — Tue, 07 Oct 2014 13:10:30 GMT

Hi, baddest_dog.. Well said. I so agreed with all your comments. As I look around I so miss the days when people took pride in their appearance which IMO represents how they feel about themselves. I shudder to think how humans will be dressing 10 years from now. I dress very nicely everyday in appropriate business attire and expect the people in my work place to rise and meet my standards. It takes a while but they get there and eventually even their job performance improves. Happens every time. If they don't like the dress code they can seek other employment. No see through, no minis, no cleavage, no jeans, no flip flops, no tattoos, etc, etc. (everything else you included). I have been observing this decline (as obviously you have) for several years and I have come to the conclusion that humans are basically lazy and spoiled.

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PattiJ — Tue, 07 Oct 2014 13:22:39 GMT

I wonder why Louis has never been picked up by one of the other shopping channels. No one has a line with the quality he has. I bet he would be treated much better elsewhere

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HAPPY LADY — Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:25:49 GMT

On 10/7/2014 PattiJ said:
I wonder why Louis has never been picked up by one of the other shopping channels. No one has a line with the quality he has. I bet he would be treated much better elsewhere

Of course, none of us know, but the history of Louis coming to QVC is someone in the hierarchy contacted Louis and asked him to create a special line for QVC. I would think Louis does not want to travel as he would have to do in order to offer his line on other shopping channels. Traveling by plane etc and through all that time consuming inconvenience. He and Jac can drive to QVC and is not a major time issue for them. He often mentions he brings all his styling accessories with them in the car. Whatever reasons, sure happy we have him for however long he decides to do this wonderful collection. You know, if we did not have this forum none of us would think we know what goes on behind the scenes. Louis may be happy as a lark; we are the ones who get so frustrated with shipping charges, crazy viewing hours and shortage of merchandise.

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chrystaltree — Tue, 07 Oct 2014 15:01:41 GMT

..because she out sells him by 10 to one (or something similar) and she has a lot of product in inventory. I know Linea has a very loyal following but it's one QVC's smaller fashion lines. If they showed his jewelry on tv, it would sell out immediately because there isn't that much of it. The abolute worst thing that could happen to any shopping channel vendor is to have thousands of people call in for an item when the supply is limited.

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Nuttmeg — Tue, 07 Oct 2014 15:06:09 GMT

I do not know the business that goes with a brand. I just want to say, this was a very nice "Fashion Day". There were many choices for us the Linea ladies. I was able to add some classic clothing pieces to my closet.

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BOYINTX — Tue, 07 Oct 2014 15:10:16 GMT

yes LG has grabbed the spotlight and is riding high. Yesterday was imo an insult to design, and an insult to some great designers but hey as long as it sales it makes sense. I also see why sh returns are so high on Q AS MANY WILL NEVER RETURN...at that cost.

Q really needs to respect all demographics and stop spending hours on one designer and hours on one item.

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nickchat — Tue, 07 Oct 2014 15:11:45 GMT

Sadly, when Louis had a OTO yesterday (WK cardigan) during PM style, not only did it not sell out, it doesn't appear that it was very popular. I read that he traveled 3 hours each way to sell the item and his wife was gorgeous when modeling it--I felt bad for all involved. I am thankful that QVC continues to sell this line in spite of the fact that the numbers favor designers like Lori. I prefer the classic style but I think the sales are behind the newer more trendy designers which I will only purchase once in a while.