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Question about IP addresses.

KathyPet — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 04:53:23 GMT

If I have a smart phone, a tablet and a

laptop do I have a separate IP address for each device? So if my user ID and IP address were banned on my smart phone could I then create a new user ID with a different IP address using my tablet and still a third using my laptop??

Re: Question about IP addresses.

BalletBabe — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 05:04:20 GMT

No , Your IP address is from your internet provider. No matter what device your on, that will always be your IP address.

Let me add if your not home and your using like mcdonalds internet, then your ip address will change.

Re: Question about IP addresses.

itiswhatitis — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 05:04:41 GMT

@KathyPet wrote:
If I have a smart phone, a tablet and a
laptop do I have a separate IP address for each device? So if my user ID and IP address were banned on my smart phone could I then create a new user ID with a different IP address using my tablet and still a third using my laptop??

http://www.howtogeek.com/148664/how-and-why-all-devices-in-your-home-share-one-ip-address/

read this to see.

Re: Question about IP addresses.

itiswhatitis — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 05:07:55 GMT

http://www.howtogeek.com/148664/how-and-why-all-devices-in-your-home-share-one-ip-address/

If you’re like most people, your Internet service provider hands you a single Internet Protocol address and your router shares it amongst all the connected devices in your home. This actually violates the end-to-end principle, which the Internet was designed around. However, there are only so many IP addresses to go around – we’re running out.

Public IP Addresses Are a Limited Resource

There are less than 4.2 billion available IPv4 IP addresses. In other words, there are more connected devices on the planet than there are unique, public IP addresses for them. The Internet is running out of IPv4 addresses, even though we’re rationing them.

Rather than your Internet service provider assigning a unique public IP address to each device in your home – you would need an additional IP address every time you bought a new computer, tablet, smartphone, game console, or anything else – your ISP generally assigns you a single IP address.

Re: Question about IP addresses.

itiswhatitis — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 05:16:16 GMT

@BalletBabe wrote:
No , Your IP address is from your internet provider. No matter what device your on, that will always be your IP address.

Let me add if your not home and your using like mcdonalds internet, then your ip address will change.

I don't think this is accurate @BalletBabe. Read the article I posted to see if it makes any sense to you.

Are IP addresses different for each computer?

Answer: If you access the Internet from a local network (LAN) in your home or business, it is possible that you share an IP address with other users. This is because, while you might use different computers or devices, you all use the same Internet connection.

pc.net/helpcenter/answers/sharing_the_same_ip_address

Re: Question about IP addresses.

BalletBabe — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 05:15:45 GMT

@itiswhatitis wrote:
http://www.howtogeek.com/148664/how-and-why-all-devices-in-your-home-share-one-ip-address/

If you’re like most people, your Internet service provider hands you a single Internet Protocol address and your router shares it amongst all the connected devices in your home. This actually violates the end-to-end principle, which the Internet was designed around. However, there are only so many IP addresses to go around – we’re running out.

Public IP Addresses Are a Limited Resource
There are less than 4.2 billion available IPv4 IP addresses. In other words, there are more connected devices on the planet than there are unique, public IP addresses for them. The Internet is running out of IPv4 addresses, even though we’re rationing them.

Rather than your Internet service provider assigning a unique public IP address to each device in your home – you would need an additional IP address every time you bought a new computer, tablet, smartphone, game console, or anything else – your ISP generally assigns you a single IP address.

Well now I am confused! LOL In my case my router is locked. I can see everyones router in my neighborhood but they are all locked. You must have a password to use them. I was told by cable company that this is my IP only. Now I don't know.

Re: Question about IP addresses.

itiswhatitis — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 05:18:10 GMT

@BalletBabe wrote:
@itiswhatitis wrote:
http://www.howtogeek.com/148664/how-and-why-all-devices-in-your-home-share-one-ip-address/

If you’re like most people, your Internet service provider hands you a single Internet Protocol address and your router shares it amongst all the connected devices in your home. This actually violates the end-to-end principle, which the Internet was designed around. However, there are only so many IP addresses to go around – we’re running out.

Public IP Addresses Are a Limited Resource
There are less than 4.2 billion available IPv4 IP addresses. In other words, there are more connected devices on the planet than there are unique, public IP addresses for them. The Internet is running out of IPv4 addresses, even though we’re rationing them.

Rather than your Internet service provider assigning a unique public IP address to each device in your home – you would need an additional IP address every time you bought a new computer, tablet, smartphone, game console, or anything else – your ISP generally assigns you a single IP address.
Well now I am confused! LOL In my case my router is locked. I can see everyones router in my neighborhood but they are all locked. You must have a password to use them. I was told by cable company that this is my IP only. Now I don't know.

@BalletBabe, I think it would depend on the Internet Provider maybe, maybe not. Verizon ain't giving me nothing extra! LOL. They so cheap.....

Re: Question about IP addresses.

BalletBabe — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 05:22:21 GMT

@itiswhatitis wrote:
@BalletBabe wrote:
@itiswhatitis wrote:
http://www.howtogeek.com/148664/how-and-why-all-devices-in-your-home-share-one-ip-address/

If you’re like most people, your Internet service provider hands you a single Internet Protocol address and your router shares it amongst all the connected devices in your home. This actually violates the end-to-end principle, which the Internet was designed around. However, there are only so many IP addresses to go around – we’re running out.

Public IP Addresses Are a Limited Resource
There are less than 4.2 billion available IPv4 IP addresses. In other words, there are more connected devices on the planet than there are unique, public IP addresses for them. The Internet is running out of IPv4 addresses, even though we’re rationing them.

Rather than your Internet service provider assigning a unique public IP address to each device in your home – you would need an additional IP address every time you bought a new computer, tablet, smartphone, game console, or anything else – your ISP generally assigns you a single IP address.
Well now I am confused! LOL In my case my router is locked. I can see everyones router in my neighborhood but they are all locked. You must have a password to use them. I was told by cable company that this is my IP only. Now I don't know.
@BalletBabe, I think it would depend on the Internet Provider maybe, maybe not. Verizon ain't giving me nothing extra! LOL. They so cheap.....

They are cheap but they do have the best coverage. I guess my question is when I am home my phone is using my router, and when I leave the house wouldn't it be on Verizons? I am going to need popcorn for this conversation. LOL

Re: Question about IP addresses.

Nuttmeg — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 09:27:37 GMT

@itiswhatitis wrote:
http://www.howtogeek.com/148664/how-and-why-all-devices-in-your-home-share-one-ip-address/

If you’re like most people, your Internet service provider hands you a single Internet Protocol address and your router shares it amongst all the connected devices in your home. This actually violates the end-to-end principle, which the Internet was designed around. However, there are only so many IP addresses to go around – we’re running out.

Public IP Addresses Are a Limited Resource
There are less than 4.2 billion available IPv4 IP addresses. In other words, there are more connected devices on the planet than there are unique, public IP addresses for them. The Internet is running out of IPv4 addresses, even though we’re rationing them.

Rather than your Internet service provider assigning a unique public IP address to each device in your home – you would need an additional IP address every time you bought a new computer, tablet, smartphone, game console, or anything else – your ISP generally assigns you a single IP address.

Hi
LOL, The sky is not falling.

Many ISP, and wireless companies have started to deploy IPV6 address on their networks http://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/ .

Re: Question about IP addresses.

KingstonsMom — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 11:44:46 GMT

Each device has a MAC (Media Access Control) address which is unique to each device and assigned by the maker of each device.

This is probably what QVC uses to ban posters and why a banned poster can 'come back' by using a different device for access.

Re: Question about IP addresses.

JustJazzmom — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 15:18:22 GMT

@KathyPet wrote:
If I have a smart phone, a tablet and a
laptop do I have a separate IP address for each device? So if my user ID and IP address were banned on my smart phone could I then create a new user ID with a different IP address using my tablet and still a third using my laptop??

1st question: your network of devices is assigned a single IP address by your service provider. In fact if you google: what is my IP? Your IP address will show up on that goiogle search. But this is an external IP address.

2nd question: if your user ID and IP address was banned on one device, it is banned on all devices using that IP address.

2A question: going to a hotel or a Starbucks which have wi-fi capability, you need to log onto their network through your devices before you can get onto the Internet. If you are banned by user ID and use a different IP address, you would still be banned.

Seeing this unbanned poster is asking this question, I am surmising the OP is asking for someone else who is/was banned.

Carry on.

Re: Question about IP addresses.

BalletBabe — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 20:21:39 GMT

@JustJazzmom wrote:
@KathyPet wrote:
If I have a smart phone, a tablet and a
laptop do I have a separate IP address for each device? So if my user ID and IP address were banned on my smart phone could I then create a new user ID with a different IP address using my tablet and still a third using my laptop??
1st question: your network of devices is assigned a single IP address by your service provider. In fact if you google: what is my IP? Your IP address will show up on that goiogle search. But this is an external IP address.

2nd question: if your user ID and IP address was banned on one device, it is banned on all devices using that IP address.

2A question: going to a hotel or a Starbucks which have wi-fi capability, you need to log onto their network through your devices before you can get onto the Internet. If you are banned by user ID and use a different IP address, you would still be banned.

Seeing this unbanned poster is asking this question, I am surmising the OP is asking for someone else who is/was banned.

Carry on.

Okay this makes sense now. BUT couldn't they make up a new account? You have a point. Why would this question be asked unless by someone that has been banned? Things that make you go huuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm

Re: Question about IP addresses.

dooBdoo — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 01:24:26 GMT

@BalletBabe wrote:
@JustJazzmom wrote:
@KathyPet wrote:
If I have a smart phone, a tablet and a
laptop do I have a separate IP address for each device? So if my user ID and IP address were banned on my smart phone could I then create a new user ID with a different IP address using my tablet and still a third using my laptop??
1st question: your network of devices is assigned a single IP address by your service provider. In fact if you google: what is my IP? Your IP address will show up on that goiogle search. But this is an external IP address.

2nd question: if your user ID and IP address was banned on one device, it is banned on all devices using that IP address.

2A question: going to a hotel or a Starbucks which have wi-fi capability, you need to log onto their network through your devices before you can get onto the Internet. If you are banned by user ID and use a different IP address, you would still be banned.

Seeing this unbanned poster is asking this question, I am surmising the OP is asking for someone else who is/was banned.

Carry on.
Okay this makes sense now. BUT couldn't they make up a new account? You have a point. Why would this question be asked unless by someone that has been banned? Things that make you go huuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm

@BalletBabe, To have a posting account on the Community forums you need a "customer account" on the shopping area of the website first. The 2 are linked to each other. To create a brand new forum posting account, a person would have to set up a new shopping account, add a nickname, and then sign onto the Community. If your IP address is static, and you've done nothing to change it, you'd still be identified with the same address and you'd find yourself blocked from posting. In today's world, many people use cellular connections which have changing IP addresses... or they use public WiFi connections... or even proxy servers. As a result, it's much easier to bypass IP blocks and much harder for websites to pin a person to one IP address and keep them out if the person is determined to find a way in. That makes moderation trickier.

Re: Question about IP addresses.

VanSleepy — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 01:34:20 GMT

I don't know why the question was asked, but I did not get the impression that @KathyPet was asking for any nefarious reason. I assumed she was just wondering how banned posters keep coming back.

Re: Question about IP addresses.

BalletBabe — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 04:12:20 GMT

@dooBdoo wrote:
@BalletBabe wrote:
@JustJazzmom wrote:
@KathyPet wrote:
If I have a smart phone, a tablet and a
laptop do I have a separate IP address for each device? So if my user ID and IP address were banned on my smart phone could I then create a new user ID with a different IP address using my tablet and still a third using my laptop??
1st question: your network of devices is assigned a single IP address by your service provider. In fact if you google: what is my IP? Your IP address will show up on that goiogle search. But this is an external IP address.

2nd question: if your user ID and IP address was banned on one device, it is banned on all devices using that IP address.

2A question: going to a hotel or a Starbucks which have wi-fi capability, you need to log onto their network through your devices before you can get onto the Internet. If you are banned by user ID and use a different IP address, you would still be banned.

Seeing this unbanned poster is asking this question, I am surmising the OP is asking for someone else who is/was banned.

Carry on.
Okay this makes sense now. BUT couldn't they make up a new account? You have a point. Why would this question be asked unless by someone that has been banned? Things that make you go huuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm

@BalletBabe, To have a posting account on the Community forums you need a "customer account" on the shopping area of the website first. The 2 are linked to each other. To create a brand new forum posting account, a person would have to set up a new shopping account, add a nickname, and then sign onto the Community. If your IP address is static, and you've done nothing to change it, you'd still be identified with the same address and you'd find yourself blocked from posting. In today's world, many people use cellular connections which have changing IP addresses... or they use public WiFi connections... or even proxy servers. As a result, it's much easier to bypass IP blocks and much harder for websites to pin a person to one IP address and keep them out if the person is determined to find a way in. That makes moderation trickier.

I wasn't banned so I have no concern.

Re: Question about IP addresses.

dooBdoo — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 04:30:35 GMT

@BalletBabe wrote:
@dooBdoo wrote:
@BalletBabe wrote:
@JustJazzmom wrote:
@KathyPet wrote:
If I have a smart phone, a tablet and a
laptop do I have a separate IP address for each device? So if my user ID and IP address were banned on my smart phone could I then create a new user ID with a different IP address using my tablet and still a third using my laptop??
1st question: your network of devices is assigned a single IP address by your service provider. In fact if you google: what is my IP? Your IP address will show up on that goiogle search. But this is an external IP address.

2nd question: if your user ID and IP address was banned on one device, it is banned on all devices using that IP address.

2A question: going to a hotel or a Starbucks which have wi-fi capability, you need to log onto their network through your devices before you can get onto the Internet. If you are banned by user ID and use a different IP address, you would still be banned.

Seeing this unbanned poster is asking this question, I am surmising the OP is asking for someone else who is/was banned.

Carry on.
Okay this makes sense now. BUT couldn't they make up a new account? You have a point. Why would this question be asked unless by someone that has been banned? Things that make you go huuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm

@BalletBabe, To have a posting account on the Community forums you need a "customer account" on the shopping area of the website first. The 2 are linked to each other. To create a brand new forum posting account, a person would have to set up a new shopping account, add a nickname, and then sign onto the Community. If your IP address is static, and you've done nothing to change it, you'd still be identified with the same address and you'd find yourself blocked from posting. In today's world, many people use cellular connections which have changing IP addresses... or they use public WiFi connections... or even proxy servers. As a result, it's much easier to bypass IP blocks and much harder for websites to pin a person to one IP address and keep them out if the person is determined to find a way in. That makes moderation trickier.

I wasn't banned so I have no concern.

I didn't think you were banned. My reply is an answer to your question: "BUT couldn't they make up a new account?"

Re: Question about IP addresses.

BalletBabe — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 05:00:40 GMT

@dooBdoo wrote:
@BalletBabe wrote:
@dooBdoo wrote:
@BalletBabe wrote:
@JustJazzmom wrote:
@KathyPet wrote:
If I have a smart phone, a tablet and a
laptop do I have a separate IP address for each device? So if my user ID and IP address were banned on my smart phone could I then create a new user ID with a different IP address using my tablet and still a third using my laptop??
1st question: your network of devices is assigned a single IP address by your service provider. In fact if you google: what is my IP? Your IP address will show up on that goiogle search. But this is an external IP address.

2nd question: if your user ID and IP address was banned on one device, it is banned on all devices using that IP address.

2A question: going to a hotel or a Starbucks which have wi-fi capability, you need to log onto their network through your devices before you can get onto the Internet. If you are banned by user ID and use a different IP address, you would still be banned.

Seeing this unbanned poster is asking this question, I am surmising the OP is asking for someone else who is/was banned.

Carry on.
Okay this makes sense now. BUT couldn't they make up a new account? You have a point. Why would this question be asked unless by someone that has been banned? Things that make you go huuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm

@BalletBabe, To have a posting account on the Community forums you need a "customer account" on the shopping area of the website first. The 2 are linked to each other. To create a brand new forum posting account, a person would have to set up a new shopping account, add a nickname, and then sign onto the Community. If your IP address is static, and you've done nothing to change it, you'd still be identified with the same address and you'd find yourself blocked from posting. In today's world, many people use cellular connections which have changing IP addresses... or they use public WiFi connections... or even proxy servers. As a result, it's much easier to bypass IP blocks and much harder for websites to pin a person to one IP address and keep them out if the person is determined to find a way in. That makes moderation trickier.

I wasn't banned so I have no concern.

I didn't think you were banned. My reply is an answer to your question: "BUT couldn't they make up a new account?"

No I am sorry , I knew you were not saying I was banned. Didn't mean it that way......sorry

Re: Question about IP addresses.

dooBdoo — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 05:27:08 GMT

It's fine, @BalletBabe! Really, no apology necessary. I'm sorry if I made it appear you (or anyone here) had been banned. This written word is so limiting, so it's easy to misunderstand the tone or meaning sometimes. No problems. Have a nice evening!

Re: Question about IP addresses.

Moonchilde — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 06:33:00 GMT

@VanSleepy wrote:
I don't know why the question was asked, but I did not get the impression that @KathyPet was asking for any nefarious reason. I assumed she was just wondering how banned posters keep coming back.

The short answer, without details, is that all IP addresses are not static, and when they're not static it's much more difficult to pin an ID to a single IP address than can be blocked. You may block one but the poster may have a large potential "supply."