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Is it global warming or global cooling?

cherry — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 14:37:11 GMT

THe Russians are claiming in 15 years we will be in a mini ice age. This was claimed back in the 1970's when we had bitter winteresand lots of snow.

I haven't made up my mind what to believe

http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/723481/Earth-ICE-AGE-big-freeze-solar-activity

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

ValuSkr — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 14:40:48 GMT

Neither - it's climate change.

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

Buck-i-Nana — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:07:34 GMT

@ValuSkr wrote:
Neither - it's climate change.

Exactly.

The changes have changed the weather patterns entirely, with resulting extremes of both hot and cold in places that rarely saw such extremes. Increases in severe storms, heavy winds, rising surfs....it's change.

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

cherry — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:13:59 GMT

The climate has always changed, over time

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

Jacie — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:11:21 GMT

The Russians aren't exactly known for mild weather! They live in a mini-ice age all the time.

I vote regular old climate change.

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

cherry — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:16:36 GMT

@Jacie wrote:
The Russians aren't exactly known for mild weather! They live in a mini-ice age all the time.

I vote regular old climate change.

But they are known for very good scientists. They had sputnick first ,and were sending up dogs etc ,while we were struggling to even get something off the ground

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

Jacie — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:19:43 GMT

@cherry But they still had rotten weather when sputnik went up and they have rotten weather now. And I am guessing that when this geologic blip shows up in a million years (should we last that long! LOL) it will be just that, a blip.

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

Tinkrbl44 — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:20:37 GMT

@cherry

It's an interesting theory ..... but that's all it is.

Scientists have been carefully documenting how quickly the glaciers at the North and South Poles have been melting, which means oceans rising everywhere.

If this was reversing, the glaciers melting would slow down ... or stop entirely. This isn't happening.

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

cherry — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:24:01 GMT

There has been data that disputes that.

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

ROMARY — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:30:28 GMT

Dare I say that I've been saying 'cooling' for years. (With lots of dagger eyes toward me, lol.) Of course, it depends on the area. jmo I'm also thinking that it's been a matter of extremes and unpredictabilities.

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

cherry — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:28:21 GMT

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/And-global-COOLING-Return-Arctic-ice-cap-grows-29-year.html

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

Noel7 — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:29:43 GMT

We know it's global warming, even the oceans have heated up and sea life is suffering.

The RESULT of global warming is EXTREME WEATHER, including very cold winters, excess heat and drought and storms.

GLOBAL WARMING is the effect on the planet.

CLIMATE CHANGE is local change in local areas, such as the now five year drought in California.

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

Buck-i-Nana — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:31:25 GMT

@cherry wrote:

There has been data that disputes that.

Well, you said your mind isn't made up yet in your first post, yet all your replies indicate your mind is made up.

Yes, climate has always changed, however, the changes have never occurred as rapidly as they have been, nor have the extremes been as extreme in areas that previously rarely experienced such things (without an external driver such as a major asteroid impact). The severity of the storms cannot be disputed. The records set cannot be disputed. The majority of the scientific and meteorolgic experts are in agreement regarding what's happening and have the data to back them up.

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

Noel7 — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:32:00 GMT

@ValuSkr wrote:
Neither - it's climate change.

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@ValuSkr

Climate change is effects on local areas, Global warming is the effect on the entire planet.

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

cherry — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:32:15 GMT

@noel heard on a canadain station this is the worse drought in 1,000 years

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

Noel7 — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:35:02 GMT

@cherry wrote:
@Jacie wrote:
The Russians aren't exactly known for mild weather! They live in a mini-ice age all the time.

I vote regular old climate change.
But they are known for very good scientists. They had sputnick first ,and were sending up dogs etc ,while we were struggling to even get something off the ground

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@cherry

Thousands of the worlds scientists agree on global warming.

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

cherry — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:33:53 GMT

@Buck-i-Nana wrote:
@cherry wrote:

There has been data that disputes that.
Well, you said your mind isn't made up yet in your first post, yet all your replies indicate your mind is made up.

Yes, climate has always changed, however, the changes have never occurred as rapidly as they have been, nor have the extremes been as extreme in areas that previously rarely experienced such things (without an external driver such as a major asteroid impact). The severity of the storms cannot be disputed. The records set cannot be disputed. The majority of the scientific and meteorolgic experts are in agreement regarding what's happening and have the data to back them up.

Because I look at both sides? sheesh

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

ROMARY — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:34:42 GMT

Some folks say that the oceans even look higher.

Re: Is it global warming or global cooling?

Noel7 — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:36:54 GMT

@cherry wrote:
@noel heard on a canadain station this is the worse drought in 1,000 years

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@cherry

Right, in 1200 years, probably longer because it just keeps going.

. . .

debic — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:38:09 GMT

I've always been a conspiracy theorist on global warming.

The more 'facts' they find, the more money in grants, etc. they get to continue to make up stuff as they go.

There have been ice ages before and maybe more. I wasn't here for the first and won't be for the last.