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    <title>topic Re: Fundraiser question. in Community Chat</title>
    <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3211488#M954808</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/241597"&gt;@Imadickens&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/6189"&gt;@Puzzle Piece&lt;/a&gt;. Good advice! Actually, it's much better for any group to be given the donation directly! Professional fundraisers get a nice cut of the proceeds, not to mention they can be very persuasive (they seldom take no for an answer!)! My mil was threatened by one once, telling her if she didn't donate the fire department might not be able to find her house if she ever needed them! My fil was Chief of Police!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Your story should be on 60 minutes or the top of the news.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2016 19:19:16 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Puzzle Piece</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-10-15T19:19:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208567#M954099</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Got invited to play bingo next week by my neighbor turned Mary Kay rep. saying it's a fundraiser for MK Ash/breast cancer. I declined but I am curious-is it really a fundraiser or is this just another one of her attempts to sell/recruit?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; I am suspicious that it is another attempt because she's tried-unsuccessfully- to get me to come to her weekly meetings, etc.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;She did this while a group of husbands and wives were all out for dinner and I had to laugh as my DH commented "well she can do whatever she wants to do but in the 31 years of marriage I have never seen her play bingo". God bless him!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 15:40:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208567#M954099</guid>
      <dc:creator>pegsue</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-14T15:40:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208596#M954105</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Smells like a sales pitch to me.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 15:50:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208596#M954105</guid>
      <dc:creator>deepwaterdotter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-14T15:50:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208605#M954106</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;I would be suspect of her motives, too...The reps of any company seem to find a way to sell their product...&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;A number of years ago...a friend of mines daughter held a dinner for many couples...at her moms home...sometime during that evening she started pitching her Avon products and passed around the books...&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;According to my friend many people walked out...and the rest didn't order anything...reason being...it was never mentioned that is what the dinner was for..and they felt duped...&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;Friend was embarrassed ...I knew in advance and I told her what she was doing was wrong...but she didn't listen...I didn't attend as it was couples and I am a single person....Thank goodness..lol....&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 15:52:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208605#M954106</guid>
      <dc:creator>circles</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-14T15:52:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208614#M954108</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It sounds like you have a schemer for a neighbor&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 15:55:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208614#M954108</guid>
      <dc:creator>cherry</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-14T15:55:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208631#M954112</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;pegsue1 wrote:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Got invited to play bingo next week by my neighbor turned Mary Kay rep. saying it's a fundraiser for MK Ash/breast cancer. &lt;U&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;I declined but I am curious-is it really a fundraiser or is this just another one of her attempts to sell/recruit&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/U&gt;?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;U&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;I am suspicious&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/U&gt;that it is another attempt because she's tried-unsuccessfully- to get me to come to her weekly meetings, etc.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;She did this while a group of husbands and wives were all out for dinner and I had to laugh as my DH commented "well she can do whatever she wants to do but in the 31 years of marriage I have never seen her play bingo". God bless him!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1528"&gt;@pegsue﻿&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp; Good for you &amp;amp; your DH&amp;nbsp;... You've had no interest in her MK products and this could be a rouse by saying it is a "fundraiser for Breast Cancer"&amp;nbsp;to get people to "play Bingo for a cause" and also&amp;nbsp;be exposed to her products, which will probably be prominently displayed.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;I'm&amp;nbsp;suspicious of anyone saying they are collecting for&amp;nbsp;a specific&amp;nbsp;cause ... does the money really go to the cause or to their pocket?&amp;nbsp; I let them know that our family makes donations to specific groups or walk/run events.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Curious, but has she shown you any interest in just being just your neighbor?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;I hope you have a good day.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 16:04:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208631#M954112</guid>
      <dc:creator>mzlg</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-14T16:04:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208636#M954114</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Could be both.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 16:06:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208636#M954114</guid>
      <dc:creator>ChynnaBlue</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-14T16:06:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208643#M954117</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;She'll probably be selling between Bingos lol, but it could really be a fundraiser in that part of the proceeds will go to the cause. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 16:10:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208643#M954117</guid>
      <dc:creator>VanSleepy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-14T16:10:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208658#M954123</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;October is breat cancer awareness month.&amp;nbsp; Lots and lots of scams out there.&amp;nbsp; If you want to donate to the cause, just sent in your donation money to a reputable cancer research center.&amp;nbsp; You can always play bingo or do whatever.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 16:15:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208658#M954123</guid>
      <dc:creator>Puzzle Piece</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-14T16:15:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208673#M954127</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;mzlg-we've been friendly neighbors for the past 12 or so years-we go out as couples w/them a few times a month, have back yard bbq's, our kids hang out, etc but in all that time she has only asked me ONE TIME to go shopping w/her!&amp;nbsp; But since she started selling MK a few months ago all of a sudden she's asking me to go here and there for her&amp;nbsp;meetings-which I don't go as I'm not interested in it and I have told her that.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 16:21:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208673#M954127</guid>
      <dc:creator>pegsue</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-14T16:21:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208677#M954128</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I personally find it reprehensible that a rep would use breast cancer as a means to sell (directly or indirectly).&amp;nbsp; Is she selling items 50% off and then donating the same percentage as 'shoes on sale' to breast cancer? I'd like to see the tax form attendees receive to write off the charitable contribution!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 16:22:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208677#M954128</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ibby114</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-14T16:22:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208749#M954141</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Ah, I see another go-round with this OP and the same situation posted in June and in August:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A title="http://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Friend-turned-MK-representative-not-the-same/td-p/2849638" href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Friend-turned-MK-representative-not-the-same/td-p/2849638" target="_self"&gt;http://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Friend-turned-MK-representative-not-the-same/td-p/2849638&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2016 16:41:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208749#M954141</guid>
      <dc:creator>SaRina</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-15T16:41:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208768#M954148</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/183729"&gt;@SaRina&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Ah, I see another go-round with this OP and the same situation posted in August:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A title="http://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Friend-turned-MK-representative-not-the-same/td-p/2849638" href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Friend-turned-MK-representative-not-the-same/td-p/2849638" target="_self"&gt;http://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Friend-turned-MK-representative-not-the-same/td-p/2849638&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I thought this situation sounded familiar.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 16:53:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208768#M954148</guid>
      <dc:creator>deepwaterdotter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-14T16:53:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208793#M954155</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I would be suspicious, too.&amp;nbsp; You could check MK's website (or she probably has her own MK website to order online, check that) to find out if there are legitimate fundraisers going on in October.&amp;nbsp; Or if it comes up again, you could ask her to send you an e-mail with the details.&amp;nbsp; That way you could investigate further and decide whether or not to participate.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:03:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208793#M954155</guid>
      <dc:creator>Katwilks</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-14T17:03:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208802#M954161</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;LOL yes-the MK lady is&amp;nbsp;having another go around with me!&amp;nbsp; I really assumed it was yet another selling/recruiting technique but then on the other hand I thought&amp;nbsp;MAYBE it really is a fundraiser for breast cancer-if that is the case I still would not&amp;nbsp;attend but I would contribute money.&amp;nbsp; But now I see that my contribution would be to purchase MK stuff.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:06:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3208802#M954161</guid>
      <dc:creator>pegsue</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-14T17:06:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3209175#M954286</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I believe this is a Mary Kay party.&amp;nbsp; Got invited to a cocktail party with a lot of the girlfriends - turns out to be a jewelry and handbag party.&amp;nbsp; UGH.&amp;nbsp; Got invited to a happy hour on the deck - turned out to be a candle party.&amp;nbsp; Beware.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In addition to this misrepresentation, we had someone in the office that asked everyone to sponsor her for every "walk" or "run" for every charity in the world.&amp;nbsp; A lot of $5 later, she left the company and I heard via the grapevine she never participated in a single one of the events.&amp;nbsp; Truly.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 19:11:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3209175#M954286</guid>
      <dc:creator>aggravated</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-14T19:11:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3209191#M954291</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I think I'd come right out and ask.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 19:15:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3209191#M954291</guid>
      <dc:creator>faeriemoon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-14T19:15:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3209222#M954298</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I wonder if this is sanctioned by the company or if this is&amp;nbsp;something this rep is doing this on her own.&amp;nbsp; If it's a MK company doing this through the reps, it might be more trustworthy.&amp;nbsp; If it's the rep on her own, I'd be concerned nothing was really donated.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 19:31:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3209222#M954298</guid>
      <dc:creator>Lipstickdiva</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-14T19:31:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3209575#M954429</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/36607"&gt;@Lipstickdiva&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I wonder if this is sanctioned by the company or if this is&amp;nbsp;something this rep is doing this on her own.&amp;nbsp; If it's a MK company doing this through the reps, it might be more trustworthy.&amp;nbsp; If it's the rep on her own, I'd be concerned nothing was really donated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I wouldn't &amp;nbsp;trust it even&amp;nbsp;if it's&amp;nbsp; MK itself&amp;nbsp;doing this through the reps! Read the website pinktruth, I don't put anything past Mary Kay.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 21:32:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3209575#M954429</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ibby114</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-14T21:32:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3209675#M954458</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1528"&gt;@pegsue﻿&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; You&amp;nbsp;know your friend better than any of us so you may be a better judge of her character and motives. &amp;nbsp;However, as a former Longaberger consultant, I can affirm that there is a legitimate way to hold a Bingo fundraiser and it be on the up and up. &amp;nbsp;Granted, even done honorably, the consultant/rep may still leave brochures on the tables, but done right there's no real selling per se during the event.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2016 04:47:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3209675#M954458</guid>
      <dc:creator>JeanLouiseFinch</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-15T04:47:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fundraiser question.</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3210320#M954617</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Mary Kay does have a fundraising program. &amp;nbsp;They have various ideas of how to do it on Pinterest. &amp;nbsp; I have never participated in one of theirs. &amp;nbsp; My family participates in the Cancer Relay for Life which is held each July. &amp;nbsp;Our team just had its first fund raiser for upcoming Relay. &amp;nbsp; We held it at a local restaurant. &amp;nbsp;We got a percentage of money spent on food if the customer said they were there for us. &amp;nbsp;We did good. &amp;nbsp;We have functions at golf ranges, hold motorcycle poker runs, etc. &amp;nbsp;Many kinds of businesses donate for raffles, use of their business, etc. &amp;nbsp;Our team was #1 in our division in July 2016. &amp;nbsp;Our goal is to do better and be #1 this coming year. &amp;nbsp;If you hear of such a function please look into it and see if it is a charity you would like to contribute to. &amp;nbsp;Every little bit helps.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2016 04:33:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Fundraiser-question/m-p/3210320#M954617</guid>
      <dc:creator>Gram W</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-15T04:33:03Z</dc:date>
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