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Fish Fraud

butterfly123 — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 20:27:32 GMT

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-every-five-fish-eat-181155710.html

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colliegirls — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 20:50:52 GMT

Inexcusable.

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Bellabutterfly — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 20:51:32 GMT

butterfly123...

I heard about this maybe a year ago...

In fact, where I live they sent undercover news people reporting on this story, to several local resturants. It was alarming, what they found. The resturants were called out by name too. In some situations, the consumer was paying 50% more for a lesser quality fish.

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Sooner — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 20:55:14 GMT

I never eat fish out now because I figure it comes from Asia. Well, if I am on the coast I get fish from restaurants I feel comfortable are serving local fish. I alone probably depleat our supply of shrimp every year. . . LOL!!! I only buy USA caught and processed fish and shrimp. For many reasons, health being number one!

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Noel7 — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 20:57:01 GMT

Living coastal we hear news reports on this all the time, and about efforts to make it increasingly illegal.

It's always the same old, same old: not enough money to hire the amount of inspectors needed.

A local report last night said whatever we think we are buying, it's usually catfish

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Goldengate8361 — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 21:09:29 GMT

I really don't care for any kind of fish...now, I'm definitely NOT going to order it. I didn't realize there was so much fraud of this type taking place.

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KYToby — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 21:10:19 GMT

This is old news, but thanks for posting the article as many people may have been unaware.

I do not eat seafood, so this is not a major concern for me; however, I will cook it for people, so I try to buy from a reputable source. When I lived on the coast, we could buy directly from the fishing boats, and that is still the best way to do it for those lucky enough to have access.

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software — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 21:11:06 GMT

@Sooner You sound like me. I've been comitted to making shrimp an endangered species now for years!

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Sooner — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 21:53:49 GMT

@software wrote:
@Sooner You sound like me. I've been committed to making shrimp an endangered species now for years!

Fried, boiled, sauteed, scalloped, grilled, pickled. . . where does it end? JAMBALAYA! Shrimp etouffee? Shrimp and Grits? MY ON MY!!! Fried so crispy you can eat the tail. . . !!!!!

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millieshops — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 22:00:24 GMT

@SoonerI think even some of the fish we buy at the markets and take home to cook is "misnamed."

And I do eat fish out because it's one of the easiest meals to control the fat the chefs use. I just try not to pay for specialty fish. I didn't read the article OP offered (no links here ever again) but the essence of the story is undoubtedly the same as has been around for several years. The last article I read myself concerned Chilean sea bass -- NOT!

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athenian — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 22:06:01 GMT

When we lived in Florida there was a factory on a lake that turned white fish from the lake into scallops. That finished scallops for me.

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itiswhatitis — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 02:57:17 GMT

I've heard about this too with fish. I order lobsters when I go out to eat. There is something called artificial crabmeat that can be bought in grocery stores. Looks pinkish and white.

I buy fish. I go to a specialty fish market so I can see what I'm buying. I watch them take my whole fish selections and cut them to my specifications and I'm good to go.

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newziesuzie — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 11:45:43 GMT

@butterfly123's article isn't old news

its a new study.

This is her article (thanks @butterfly123!)

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-every-five-fish-eat-181155710.html

9/7/2016

One in every five fish we eat is a fraud

If you like to eat seafood, chances are you’ve been lied to—many, many times.

A new report (pdf) by environmental non-profit group Oceana has found that about one in five fish purchased in retail and restaurants is mislabeled, and in many cases the lie was intentional.

Oceana analyzed more than 200 peer-reviewed journal articles, as well as news reports, government documents, and non-profits reports. In all, it found 19% of the 25,700 global samples gleaned from the literature had been mislabeled.

The bulk of shark being served in Brazil was actually largetooth sawfish (an endangered species).

In Italy, pufferfish were found being marketed as squid. In the US, the most commonly faked fish were snapper, grouper, and salmon.

Many of the white fishes sold in the US as snapper and grouper were actually Asian catfish.

Asian catfish, or Pangasius, was found to be the most commonly substituted fish in the world—used as a substitute for 18 varieties of common fish.

In many countries, it’s legal to sell several species of fish under one general name. In Greece, for instance, hake, cod, haddock, and whiting were all sold as “bakaliaros.” There’s a similar trend in the US, according to the report.

Sixty-six different species are allowed to be sold as “grouper” there, making it nearly impossible for consumers to know which specific fish they are buying.

Like the squid in Italy, pufferfish has been disguised as cod in China, filefish in Taiwan, and monkfish in Chicago.

In at least five countries, consumers have fallen ill by eating escolar sold as cod, seabass, rudderfish, butterfish, and white tuna.

According to Oceana, that type of fraud prevents consumers from choosing seafood based on its sustainability, for health reasons, or for other concerns.

In 2014, the global seafood trade—the millions of tons of fish that are harvested, processed and shipped around the world—was valued at $148 billion. While it’s unclear how costly fraud winds up being for the industry, Oceana said fish adulteration is big business.

“Across the world, our review reveals that seafood mislabeling appears to be motivated primarily by economic gain through intentionally misleading buyers at every level of the seafood supply chain,” the report states.

“About 65% of the studies reviewed include clear evidence of economically-motivated adulteration of seafood products.”

The report comes ahead of a conference this month to discuss sustainable fishing, along with other ocean-related problems and policies."

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JDJ555 — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 14:40:16 GMT

This info is very discouraging. I'm not sure who we can trust.

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Puzzle Piece — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 16:39:59 GMT

Thanks for sharing.

Remember, other countries don't owe people the truth. Expecting them to have US standards or principles is foolish. YOU have to watch out for you.

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Plaid Pants2 — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 17:23:58 GMT

Living on the coast of the Pacific Northwest, I am lucky.

I have a local fish monger that has been business for decades, that I trust and go to for my seafood.

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MoJoV — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 17:41:31 GMT

I'm a vegetarian ,don't eat any flesh. But I've heard about the filthy waste ponds where fish are raised in Asia to be sent here. And now they want to end the law that says country of origin must be revealed. Buyer really beware. Stomach churning.

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butterfly123 — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 21:45:29 GMT

@newziesuzie

Thank you!

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momtochloe — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 21:50:51 GMT

I am not a fish lover but occasionally enjoy a piece or two. Today I made myself a couple of filets I bought from Trader Joe's that were marked "Wild Caught in Alaska". I have always been happy with TJ's products and will continue to make my occasional fish purchases there.

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Tinkrbl44 — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 04:53:48 GMT

Oh wow .... now the fish has fraudulent knock offs? (groan)

I'm pretty careful when ordering fish, but this worries me ... I'm seriously allergic to shellfish and am always suspicious of not only the fish, but the sauce!

One time I ordered a chicken dish in a Chinese restaurant and my lips started to swell! Turns out they added oyster sauce to the chicken dish .... seriously, who does that? Yikes!