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    <title>topic Re: Distressed clothing elegant? ..... in Community Chat</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;As an ITEM I wouldn't call them elegant or sophisticated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Put together with the right pieces then the outfit could be either or both.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But worn with a t-shirt and flip flops I wouldn't call them either.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:24:50 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>QueenDanceALot</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-07-22T17:24:50Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Distressed-clothing-elegant/m-p/2977002#M902722</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;I just happened to flip past QVC and saw a pair of distressed jeans being presented. I wouldn't pay $59 for them but have no problem with anyone who would.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;I was surprised to hear them called sophisticated and elegant. Those just aren't the adjectives I would use to describe them -- would you?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:08:20 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>akaburtonfan</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T17:08:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Distresses clothing elegant? .....</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I pass. People would think I had rats in my home.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;EWWWWWWWW&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:08:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SharkE</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T17:08:44Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4" color="#800080"&gt;Nope.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:09:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>colliegirls</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T17:09:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Distressed clothing elegant? .....</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Distressed-clothing-elegant/m-p/2977023#M902728</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Some bodies can make almost anything look elegant.&amp;nbsp; The rest of us not so much.&amp;nbsp; The secret is to know which category fits you.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:14:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>millieshops</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T17:14:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Distressed clothing elegant? .....</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Distressed-clothing-elegant/m-p/2977031#M902729</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I don't understand the concept of wearing jeans that look like that. &amp;nbsp;I also don't understand why wearing tops and dresses that look like you're dragging a tail around behind you is considered fashionable. &amp;nbsp;I'll stick with my classics that never go out of style.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:17:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>evergreen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T17:17:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Distressed clothing elegant? .....</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Distressed-clothing-elegant/m-p/2977037#M902730</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Well, you define sophisticated and elegant your way and other's describe it their way.&amp;nbsp; Elegant, I would not&amp;nbsp;have used but sophisticated.&amp;nbsp; Yes. &amp;nbsp;Have you been to some of the triendier bars, restaurants and events lately?&amp;nbsp; The world has changed (to borrow a phrase from that commercial) and people dress much more casually today.&amp;nbsp; They take a casual piece like those jeans.&amp;nbsp; Which are just barely distressed.&amp;nbsp; They build a dressier outfit around the casual piece.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; You add a lacy top or chiffon top and a strappy metallic sandal and some nice jewelry and there are indeed many really nice places you can wear it to and look appropriate.&amp;nbsp; Being overdressed is as much a faux pas these days as being underdressed.&amp;nbsp; $59 is not a lot for a pair of jeans, especially such a veratile pair as those jeans.&amp;nbsp; I own a 2 pairs of similar jeans that I bought from Old Navy about 3 years ago.&amp;nbsp; Great investment!&amp;nbsp; Real denim with just a touch of stretch, not overly distressed.&amp;nbsp; I bought a dark wash and medium wash.&amp;nbsp; I don't recall what I paid but probably $50&amp;nbsp;a pair.&amp;nbsp; I wondered when QVC was going to sell a nice pair of jeans like that.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:19:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>chrystaltree</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T17:19:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Distressed clothing elegant? .....</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Distressed-clothing-elegant/m-p/2977041#M902731</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/141626"&gt;@akaburtonfan&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;I just happened to flip past QVC and saw a pair of distressed jeans being presented. I wouldn't pay $59 for them but have no problem with anyone who would.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;I was surprised to hear them called sophisticated and elegant. Those just aren't the adjectives I would use to describe them -- would you?&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/141626"&gt;@akaburtonfan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4" color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;I would say that host needs a LOT more training.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:20:50 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Tinkrbl44</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T17:20:50Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;probably just a 'youth' thing like most passing fads. I used to have a hula hoop and gnawed on Tootsie roll pops.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:23:28 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SharkE</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T17:23:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Distressed clothing elegant? .....</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Distressed-clothing-elegant/m-p/2977054#M902735</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;As an ITEM I wouldn't call them elegant or sophisticated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Put together with the right pieces then the outfit could be either or both.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But worn with a t-shirt and flip flops I wouldn't call them either.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:24:50 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>QueenDanceALot</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T17:24:50Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Distressed-clothing-elegant/m-p/2977131#M902756</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Distressed torn and frayed jeans with &amp;nbsp;have been around for so long that my first reaction on seeing the pair highlighted on the QVC website today was surprise because that particular version of aged jeans is in its way out, per various style stories in magazines and online. I don't hate the look but it's one if those things, like high/low hemlines, that will be here and gone. No doubt another version of worn jeans will still be available, though. Back in college in about 1971 my sorority sisters and I were putting new jeans in a bathtub of bleach water to fade and age them!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:53:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>libbyannE</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T17:53:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Distressed clothing elegant? .....</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Distressed-clothing-elegant/m-p/2977160#M902768</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/136743"&gt;@chrystaltree&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Well, you define sophisticated and elegant your way and other's describe it their way.&amp;nbsp; Elegant, I would not&amp;nbsp;have used but sophisticated.&amp;nbsp; Yes. &amp;nbsp;Have you been to some of the triendier bars, restaurants and events lately?&amp;nbsp; The world has changed (to borrow a phrase from that commercial) and people dress much more casually today.&amp;nbsp; They take a casual piece like those jeans.&amp;nbsp; Which are just barely distressed.&amp;nbsp; They build a dressier outfit around the casual piece.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; You add a lacy top or chiffon top and a strappy metallic sandal and some nice jewelry and there are indeed many really nice places you can wear it to and look appropriate.&amp;nbsp; Being overdressed is as much a faux pas these days as being underdressed.&amp;nbsp; $59 is not a lot for a pair of jeans, especially such a veratile pair as those jeans.&amp;nbsp; I own a 2 pairs of similar jeans that I bought from Old Navy about 3 years ago.&amp;nbsp; Great investment!&amp;nbsp; Real denim with just a touch of stretch, not overly distressed.&amp;nbsp; I bought a dark wash and medium wash.&amp;nbsp; I don't recall what I paid but probably $50&amp;nbsp;a pair.&amp;nbsp; I wondered when QVC was going to sell a nice pair of jeans like that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I appreciate your answer -- you have a different perspective than I do as it seems we live in very different areas. I had to laugh when you said "have you been to some of the trendier bars, restaurants" as I can't think of anyplace in my area that would be considered trendy. &amp;nbsp;&lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://community.qvc.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.png" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;. I agree that the price isn't all that high for jeans just more than I'd pay.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 18:05:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>akaburtonfan</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T18:05:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Distressed clothing elegant? .....</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Distressed-clothing-elegant/m-p/2977163#M902770</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The ones they are showing are hardly what I would call distressed. They are OK I have them for &amp;nbsp;hundreds of dollars. &amp;nbsp;I find it amusing that what sells can easily be achieved on your own with worn out jeans.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I happen to like them myself not the ones shown but others.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 18:05:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AngusandBuddhasMom</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T18:05:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Distressed clothing elegant? .....</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;No.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;This is my idea of sophisticated and elegant&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2478500/thumbs/o-AMAL-CLOONEY-570.jpg?3" alt="" border="0" height="522" width="377" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://cdn-img.instyle.com/sites/default/files/styles/684xflex/public/images/2014/WRN/103014-amal-clooney-594.jpg?itok=fyEf4FyO" alt="" border="0" height="522" width="359" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 18:07:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Iwantcoffee</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T18:07:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Distressed clothing elegant? .....</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Distressed-clothing-elegant/m-p/2977168#M902772</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;If you are referred to the Hot In Hollywood &amp;nbsp;distressed boyfriend jeans, I own 3 pairs in light,medium,and dark wash. I lo e then so much. They really look good on me. I wear them without flops casually and heels to be more dressy. &amp;nbsp;I know they are not everyone's style. They definitely are mine. I have on the light ones today. &amp;nbsp;This line was on HSN and I got mine second two pairs &amp;nbsp;on Ebay.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 18:07:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>birkin baby</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T18:07:44Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Distressed-clothing-elegant/m-p/2977227#M902784</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/34653"&gt;@millieshops&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Some bodies can make almost anything look elegant.&amp;nbsp; The rest of us not so much.&amp;nbsp; The secret is to know which category fits you.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I agree and would also add - It's what YOU bring to anything,&amp;nbsp;anytime, anywhere.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 18:27:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Puzzle Piece</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T18:27:34Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Community-Chat/Distressed-clothing-elegant/m-p/2977252#M902789</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/67075"&gt;@libbyannE&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Distressed torn and frayed jeans with &amp;nbsp;have been around for so long that my first reaction on seeing the pair highlighted on the QVC website today was surprise because that particular version of aged jeans is in its way out, per various style stories in magazines and online. I don't hate the look but it's one if those things, like high/low hemlines, that will be here and gone. No doubt another version of worn jeans will still be available, though. Back in college in about 1971 my sorority sisters and I were putting new jeans in a bathtub of bleach water to fade and age them!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Some may say the look is&amp;nbsp;on its way out, but I still see an awful lot of them (being worn and being sold). Checking places like the Nordstrom Anniversary Sale, for example, finds&amp;nbsp;&lt;EM&gt;many&lt;/EM&gt; pairs of jeans in various states of "distress."&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 18:35:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jonbon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T18:35:56Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ripped jeans were in style when I was in high school, in the '80's.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And yes, people paid to buy jeans that were already ripped.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sometimes, we would take plain jeans, and cut holes in them, to get them to have that ripped look.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, anybody over the age of 40, should remember when the ripped jean look was popular 30 years ago.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 18:50:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Plaid Pants2</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T18:50:13Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I won't wear distressed anything. But this particular jeans-hem-look is on the horizon:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.qvc.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/42017iDC2001A56283E0B3/image-size/original?v=v2&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="unevenhem1.jpg" title="unevenhem1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 18:56:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SilleeMee</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T18:56:53Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Looks like a bad alteration job.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 19:00:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SharkE</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T19:00:56Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Back when I was a young girl, I'd be embarrassed to wear something that was ripped, or had some irregularity. I quit school and went to work so I could buy nice things. Today I don't even like distressed leather. I'm just expressing my opinion.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 19:33:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>StylishLady</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-07-22T19:33:38Z</dc:date>
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