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Are You In The FBI Face-recognition Database?

Marp — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 00:51:50 GMT

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has access to as many as 411.9 million images as part of its face-recognition database. The bulk of those images are photographs of people who have committed no crime, according to a new report from the Government Accountability Office (GAO).

The report says the bureau's Facial Analysis, Comparison, and Evaluation Services Unit contains not only 30 million mug shots, but also has access to driver license photos from 16 states, the State Department's visa and passport database, and the biometric database maintained by the Defense Department.

Map of participating states from the article:

Full article: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/06/smile-youre-in-the-fbi-face-recognition-database/

Re: Are You In The FBI Face-recognition Database?

Desertdi — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 00:55:06 GMT

Been fingerprinted because I handled large amounts of cash..........but I doubt the FBI has my picture..............(!)

Re: Are You In The FBI Face-recognition Database?

HappyDaze — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 00:57:24 GMT

many of the images were given to the FBI by facebook so if you posted pictures on facebook and identified the people in the pictures, all those pictures and associated names are now in the FBI database.

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scotnovel — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 00:57:45 GMT

I have a passport so probably am in the database. I was fingerprinted many years ago for my first nursing job at a state university hospital. We were told our fingerprints were submitted to the FBI as part of background check.

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catwhisperer — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 01:03:16 GMT

Be very careful who you post with on these forums. Someone might be watching. LOL.

Re: Are You In The FBI Face-recognition Database?

ROMARY — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 01:08:38 GMT

Makes no difference to me..........I'm the one who likes the idea of street security cameras. IMO, they protect the innocent.

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Annabellethecat66 — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 01:25:21 GMT

I've been fingerprinted (worked at the Pentagon in a secure area) and I've traveled all over Europe (passport).

I'm 70 this year so at this point it doesn't bother me. If I get to where I can't find my way back home maybe my daughter can call them and they can put out my picture!

I have friends who are very paranoid about everything. They won't order anything on line, pay cash for everything, don't have caller ID or listed phone number, don't belong to FB, don't use computer and on and on.

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deepwaterdotter — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 01:26:18 GMT

Given my old, wrinkled mug the computer probably kicked it out.

Re: Are You In The FBI Face-recognition Database?

Lila Belle — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 02:20:00 GMT

Most likely I am.

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HappyDaze — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 02:23:30 GMT

@ROMARY wrote:
Makes no difference to me..........I'm the one who likes the idea of street security cameras. IMO, they protect the innocent.

I really don't care either. I am sure I am since I worked for the government on numerous occasions. Matters not to me.

Re: Are You In The FBI Face-recognition Database?

ROMARY — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 02:36:02 GMT

Actually, since many Tom, D*cks, and Harriets out there already have most of our info anyway, I'd rather have somebody official/beneficial have it instead. Keeps the honest people honest, and the others, well.............maybe keeps them a bit less dishonest.

Re: Are You In The FBI Face-recognition Database?

Mominohio — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 02:31:59 GMT

@HappyDaze wrote:
many of the images were given to the FBI by facebook so if you posted pictures on facebook and identified the people in the pictures, all those pictures and associated names are now in the FBI database.

Lovely! Glad I don't do Facebook, or have people posting my picture.

Re: Are You In The FBI Face-recognition Database?

sunshine45 — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 02:34:42 GMT

@Mominohio wrote:
@HappyDaze wrote:
many of the images were given to the FBI by facebook so if you posted pictures on facebook and identified the people in the pictures, all those pictures and associated names are now in the FBI database.

Lovely! Glad I don't do Facebook, or have people posting my picture.

@Mominohio

how do you know there are no pictures of you on facebook?

Re: Are You In The FBI Face-recognition Database?

sunshine45 — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 02:35:59 GMT

the FBI can have as many pictures of me that they want.

Re: Are You In The FBI Face-recognition Database?

HappyDaze — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 02:36:32 GMT

@Mominohio wrote:
@HappyDaze wrote:
many of the images were given to the FBI by facebook so if you posted pictures on facebook and identified the people in the pictures, all those pictures and associated names are now in the FBI database.

Lovely! Glad I don't do Facebook, or have people posting my picture.

Yeah there was a big expose about it on NPR about a year ago. There are also cameras at most big sporting events looking for and identifying people based on this information obtained through Facebook. Kind of eye opening actually.

Re: Are You In The FBI Face-recognition Database?

Mominohio — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 02:39:28 GMT

@Annabellethecat66 wrote:
I've been fingerprinted (worked at the Pentagon in a secure area) and I've traveled all over Europe (passport).

I'm 70 this year so at this point it doesn't bother me. If I get to where I can't find my way back home maybe my daughter can call them and they can put out my picture!

I have friends who are very paranoid about everything. They won't order anything on line, pay cash for everything, don't have caller ID or listed phone number, don't belong to FB, don't use computer and on and on.

I think the key here is balance. We all know that there is no 'privacy' anymore. Just about anything the government wants to know about you, they will.

That said, I don't knock people who do things to stay under the radar. One doesn't have to be 'hiding' anything or be guilty of anything, and they aren't necessarily paranoid, just because they'd rather big brother didn't know everything about them, where they spend their money, on what etc.

I grew up in a time where people's private business was just that, THEIR private business. Nothing clandestine about it, it was just what people expected and could actually achieve, to some degree.

We have become a nation of sharing..........everything. And in doing so, strangers, the government, businesses etc. all know way more about us than some of us know about ourselves!

In my opinion, not always a good thing.

Re: Are You In The FBI Face-recognition Database?

RoughDraft — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 02:42:16 GMT

I probably am. I hope they used my Passport photo because I had a good hair day. I always hate my drivers license pics.

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Lila Belle — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 02:44:28 GMT

My passport photo is better than my drivers license pic too! lol

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JaneMarple — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 02:45:47 GMT

@Mominohio wrote:
@HappyDaze wrote:
many of the images were given to the FBI by facebook so if you posted pictures on facebook and identified the people in the pictures, all those pictures and associated names are now in the FBI database.

Lovely! Glad I don't do Facebook, or have people posting my picture.

Believe me you're on fb! Families and friends love to show photos of their loved ones. Besides if a police department needed to see your photo they look up your driver's license and if they really want to get any information they look up friend's and family's fb pages too.

Re: Are You In The FBI Face-recognition Database?

Mominohio — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 02:46:37 GMT

@sunshine45 wrote:
@Mominohio wrote:
@HappyDaze wrote:
many of the images were given to the FBI by facebook so if you posted pictures on facebook and identified the people in the pictures, all those pictures and associated names are now in the FBI database.

Lovely! Glad I don't do Facebook, or have people posting my picture.

@Mominohio
how do you know there are no pictures of you on facebook?

I rarely am in photos, and they are usually only photos that I have in my possession.

I don't get into group shots or let others take my picture (like at a family get together, unless it is my camera someone is using), never been part of a selfie (HA!). I take a lot of pictures, but I rarely pose for one.

There might be some rare picture out there that someone has snapped and posted, but it would most likely be because I got in some strangers background somewhere, not because of people I know are sharing pictures of me.

And maybe some obscure cousin has posted vintage family photos when I was a child or something on their facebook page for a Throwback Thursday or something that I'm not aware of, but one would be hard pressed to find anyone who had posted a pic of me.