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Since it is Equal Pay Day I'd like Your Input

JBKO — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 03:29:55 GMT

Hi everyone. I have been absent for a while since I am busy with work and life and all the rest. As many of you know, I have been looking to leave my job for various reasons the overarching one being that I do not make enough money. I have applied elsewhere, gone on interviews, and even received a job offer I declined because it was part-time. Anyway, a position opened at my company, in my own department and after much thinking and consulting with friends, I decided to apply. Let me preface by saying that they promote in ways that make little to know sense to me at least. Our department is and has been 75-80% female when it comes to the "underlings" which I am a part of. When it comes to supervisory roles, there are currently 4 males, and 2 females. One of these females is leaving, hence the opening. Do you really think that they will have 5 male supervisors and 1 female supervisor if they decide on a male candidate? They are looking to hire internally so I almost certain it will be between me and one of my male coworkers. He is a great guy and will do the job just fine. I have been there longer and like him have great performance evaluations and can do the job. What are your thoughts? Have noticed this in your company or ones you have worked for in the past. TIA

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JBKO — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 03:31:30 GMT

little to no* sense oops!

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Goldengate8361 — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 03:36:53 GMT

Are you asking if you should apply? Of course.... If you'd like the position and the added responsibility.

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JBKO — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 03:39:27 GMT

I already applied and interviewed for the position.

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Carmie — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 04:18:51 GMT

The job I recently retired from rewarded male employees over female employees. The department that I worked in was mostly female (only 3-4 males and over 100 females) and it was the female bosses who were discrimating against other females. One boss even told me that she paid the males more because they had to support their families ?????

It does happen often even though it is illegal and it's difficult to prove.

Best wishes and good luck to you. I hope you get the promotion.

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occasionalrain — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 04:22:49 GMT

I take it you want thoughts on your chances of getting the position. That you would be replacing a woman and that there is only one other is in your favor so unless they can't see you as a supervisor or don't want to lose the male applicant, I expect you will be their choice.

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NativeJax — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 10:01:13 GMT

I work for a company who has a female CEO and they hire more men than women to be supervisors and pay them more. I am assistant director and have had 7 yes 7 male directors in 3 in half years. They make $35000 more a year than myself and can never do the job! I have never been able to figure out my companies theory that male supervisors would be better.....the only thing I can think of is that women tend to call out more and are petty annoying employees. Lol Sorry but it's true, women can be the worst at work, always back stabbing and talking about each other. I rarely see men do this in the work place.

I am sure there will be people who disagree with me but this is the way it has been for me at my last three jobs.

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Cats3000 — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 10:16:25 GMT

They make more than you do because they are "Directors" and you're an "Assistant Director". If you don't like that, vote with your feet and find a job where you're a "Director". Then, you'll probably make as much as other "Directors".

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Cats3000 — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 10:19:24 GMT

If you don't like your job because you don't make "enough money" (and only you know what's "enough"), then find a job in house or elsewhere that pays you what you believe is "enough money". Why even ask the question?

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NativeJax — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 10:35:11 GMT

I like the fact that I have job security and I am vested. What's the point of being a director there when they offer more money but they can't fill the shoes of the job requirement. They make more on paper but since they have a shelf life of about 6 months tops and then they are fired in the end I stay working and still make decent income. Also, what gave you any indication that I prefer to "walk away" from my job? Why the sensitivity to my post? Strike a nerve?

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Isobel Archer — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:22:47 GMT

@NativeJax wrote:
I work for a company who has a female CEO and they hire more men than women to be supervisors and pay them more. I am assistant director and have had 7 yes 7 male directors in 3 in half years. They make $35000 more a year than myself and can never do the job! I have never been able to figure out my companies theory that male supervisors would be better.....the only thing I can think of is that women tend to call out more and are petty annoying employees. Lol Sorry but it's true, women can be the worst at work, always back stabbing and talking about each other. I rarely see men do this in the work place.

I am sure there will be people who disagree with me but this is the way it has been for me at my last three jobs.

This seems to be very widespread. There is a report out currently about a well known foundation where men are paid more than women - despite the public advocacy of one of the founders for equality in pay for women.

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151949 — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 12:23:53 GMT

What does this have to do with equal pay day?

I worked in a field dominated by women at all levels so I have nothing to base the concept of equal pay on.Nursing does pay equally for both genders.

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JBKO — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:04:07 GMT

It has to everything to do with equal pay day-- if more and more senior staff are male, they get higher salaries.

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Lila Belle — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:13:09 GMT

Good luck to you @JBKO !

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Noel7 — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:26:28 GMT

@Cats3000 wrote:
They make more than you do because they are "Directors" and you're an "Assistant Director". If you don't like that, vote with your feet and find a job where you're a "Director". Then, you'll probably make as much as other "Directors".

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@Cats3000

The studies are based on those doing the same or similar job.

Not, as you say, those at different levels.

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Noel7 — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:27:42 GMT

@JBKO wrote:
It has to everything to do with equal pay day-- if more and more senior staff are male, they get higher salaries.

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That's true, also.

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Desertdi — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:53:02 GMT

Spent my whole working career "covering for the boss" and doing his job while he was on the golf course, or out with a mistress...........at a quarter the pay. I am glad "times are a'changing"!

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occasionalrain — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 14:43:48 GMT

Perhaps men deserve more because they can be depended upon to be there not off on maternity leave, on the phone with their children, unwilling to stay late. The best manager I've ever had was a woman but she was the exception that proved the rule.

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JBKO — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 18:43:32 GMT

You really believe that Occasional Rain?

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NativeJax — Thu, 14 Apr 2016 01:39:28 GMT

You must live in a fairy world occasional if you know dependable men....haha, I don't depend on men or women to get my job done. I am a self starter and go about my day, taking charge and making things happen. Just this week alone two women called out, the lone wolf male left early twice, came in late today and took tomorrow off. My boss left early as well because he didn't feel good.so we are at 50/50 at my place of work, but the kicker is both of those makes make more money than the women on the team....go figure