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Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

Noel7 — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:19:13 GMT

Scientists solve mystery of why the planet’s axis is tilting eastward

"The position of Earth’s axis has dramatically shifted, likely because of melting ice sheets (fueled by climate change) and natural changes in water storage on land, according to a new study in the journal Science Advances.

The shifting axis might add to the effects of climate change on our stressed-out planet: Global temperatures are getting hotter. Weather events are becoming more extreme. Sea levels are rising.

'What the shift does tell scientists,' Ivins said, 'is that we have a new tool to probe past climate changes in a very quantitative and accurate way. To us, that is significant.' "

Additional information here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earth-poles-climate-change_us_5706c52ee4b0537661892db4

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

hckynut — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:34:01 GMT

It may be because we moved all our furniture to 1 side of our house. Ya never know. Some say CC is responsible for so many things I've lost count, so why not our furniture? It's just as likely as many other things I have heard and read.

hckynut(john)

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

Noel7 — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:46:48 GMT

@hckynut wrote:

It may be because we moved all our furniture to 1 side of our house. Ya never know. Some say CC is responsible for so many things I've lost count, so why not our furniture? It's just as likely as many other things I have heard and read.

hckynut(john)

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@hckynut

John, it's just a guess, but I think the water spoken of might weigh a little more than your furniture, lol.

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

Blahblahvampemer — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:53:34 GMT

What climate change? 250 peer-reviewed studies last year alone don't back the theory, most scientists call it "weather," and with 40,000 dying in Europe during the winter of 2014, yeah for warming...but we're actually cooling.

BTW, the planet itself spews so much more filth into the atmosphere than all human activity combined, and when the sun burns hotter, we're going to be hotter.

Tax the sun! Tax the planet!

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

Noel7 — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:56:56 GMT

@Blahblahvampemer wrote:
What climate change? 250 peer-reviewed studies last year alone don't back the theory, most scientists call it "weather," and with 40,000 dying in Europe during the winter of 2014, yeah for warming...but we're actually cooling.

BTW, the planet itself spews so much more filth into the atmosphere than all human activity combined, and when the sun burns hotter, we're going to be hotter.

Tax the sun! Tax the planet!

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You can tell that to the overwhelming majority of scientists who do back the findings on climate change.

Of course, some people could see the earth flip poles and think nothing odd was going on

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

Noel7 — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:01:04 GMT

We are all free to believe what we wish, of course.

Report: 97 percent of scientists say man-made climate change is real

As for the 3 percent of scientists who remain unconvinced, the study found their average expertise is far below that of their colleagues, as measured by publication and citation rates.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/sciencefair/post/2010/06/scientists-overwhelmingly-believe-in-man-made-climate-change/1#.Vw19eY-cE2w

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

Nonametoday — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:02:08 GMT

Lots of grants being written for government money. Lots of money. Lots of money. Lots of deep pockets. Lots of deep pockets.

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

ChynnaBlue — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:05:18 GMT

@Blahblahvampemer wrote:
What climate change? 250 peer-reviewed studies last year alone don't back the theory, most scientists call it "weather," and with 40,000 dying in Europe during the winter of 2014, yeah for warming...but we're actually cooling.

BTW, the planet itself spews so much more filth into the atmosphere than all human activity combined, and when the sun burns hotter, we're going to be hotter.

Tax the sun! Tax the planet!

That's cute. There are over 12,000 papers supporting it and there's a 97% consensus rate that it's real and that people are contributing to it.

And no, we're not cooling. That's a myth believed when people don't look at the whole picture. http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GISSTemperature/giss_temperature2.php

https://www.skepticalscience.com/future-global-cooling.htm

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

Noel7 — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:08:54 GMT

I have to admit I find it odd the climate change deniers aren't even interested in the fact that the earth's axis has dramatically shifted.

Oh, well.

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

Lila Belle — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:38:30 GMT

@Noel7 wrote:
@hckynut wrote:

It may be because we moved all our furniture to 1 side of our house. Ya never know. Some say CC is responsible for so many things I've lost count, so why not our furniture? It's just as likely as many other things I have heard and read.

hckynut(john)
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@hckynut

John, it's just a guess, but I think the water spoken of might weigh a little more than your furniture, lol.

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He's close. The "water tables" are affecting it too.

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

Wayne-QVC — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:39:24 GMT

This post has been removed by QVC because it's argumentative

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

Noel7 — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:44:41 GMT

@Lila Belle wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:
@hckynut wrote:

It may be because we moved all our furniture to 1 side of our house. Ya never know. Some say CC is responsible for so many things I've lost count, so why not our furniture? It's just as likely as many other things I have heard and read.

hckynut(john)
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@hckynut

John, it's just a guess, but I think the water spoken of might weigh a little more than your furniture, lol.
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He's close. The "water tables" are affecting it too.

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@Lila Belle

Excellent

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

GingerPeach — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:47:16 GMT

Thank you, @Noel7. Fascinating. I am awed by the work (and also the insight) that goes into such findings.

The insight part reminds me of how Archimedes was said to have discovered how to measure volume.

@terrier3

"Willful ignorance" = my own personal greatest pet peeve (not that you should care one way or the other)

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

Noel7 — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:47:33 GMT

"Earth does not always spin on an axis running through its poles. Instead, it wobbles irregularly over time, drifting toward North America throughout most of the 20th Century (green arrow). That direction has changed drastically due to changes in water mass on Earth."

NASA

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

Nonametoday — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:48:24 GMT

@ChynnaBlue wrote:
@Blahblahvampemer wrote:
What climate change? 250 peer-reviewed studies last year alone don't back the theory, most scientists call it "weather," and with 40,000 dying in Europe during the winter of 2014, yeah for warming...but we're actually cooling.

BTW, the planet itself spews so much more filth into the atmosphere than all human activity combined, and when the sun burns hotter, we're going to be hotter.

Tax the sun! Tax the planet!
That's cute. There are over 12,000 papers supporting it and there's a 97% consensus rate that it's real and that people are contributing to it.

And no, we're not cooling. That's a myth believed when people don't look at the whole picture. http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GISSTemperature/giss_temperature2.php

https://www.skepticalscience.com/future-global-cooling.htm

12,000 pages, 97%. Lots of deep pockets, lots of government grants and many crooked politicians on both sides.

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

Wayne-QVC — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:49:46 GMT

This post has been removed by QVC because it's political

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

Ms X — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:50:22 GMT

I still don't care about "climate change," and I have plenty of company. When people are asked to rank issues they care about this one is near the bottom. I can't afford to have my utility bills climb and climb.

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

Noel7 — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:53:42 GMT

@Ms X wrote:
I still don't care about "climate change," and I have plenty of company. When people are asked to rank issues they care about this one is near the bottom. I can't afford to have my utility bills climb and climb.

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You do have lots of company, 23% of Americans don't care or believe it.

But, then again, 63% do.

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

Ms X — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 00:01:30 GMT

@Noel7 wrote:
@Ms X wrote:
I still don't care about "climate change," and I have plenty of company. When people are asked to rank issues they care about this one is near the bottom. I can't afford to have my utility bills climb and climb.
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You do have lots of company, 23% of Americans don't care or believe it.

But, then again, 63% do.

The surveys I've seen were nothing like the numbers you cite. And they were recent. It was near the very bottom of the list of concerns. People are concerned about jobs, the economy, and a raft of other things. It is a boutique issue.

Re: Climate Change May Be Causing Earth’s Poles To Shift

justmyopinion — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 00:05:47 GMT

In a recent poll, 65 percent of those who were surveyed believed leprechauns, fairies, ghosts, angels, flying saucers and aliens exist.