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An informative article about vitamin supplements...

Susan Louise — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 04:14:54 GMT

I found it very helpful...link HERE

Re: An informative article about vitamin supplements...

Puzzle Piece — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 05:47:40 GMT

Thanks for the info BUT, how folks choose to spend their money is their business. The article insights by the title when it refers to people WASTING. It's their personal business if they choose to waste, not a journalist.

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Susan Louise — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 05:57:32 GMT

@Puzzle Piece wrote:
Thanks for the info BUT, how folks choose to spend their money is their business. The article insights by the title when it refers to people WASTING. It's their personal business if they choose to waste, not a journalist.

@Puzzle Piece This is not the 1st article I read on the subject. As an example, I stopped taking calcium supplements because it would do more harm than good.

I also eat more fortified cereals to help with nutrients I don't usually get enough of...

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FrostyBabe — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:05:48 GMT

The article echoes exactly what my doctor has told me for several years...that eating a healthy, balanced diet negates the need for any supplements.

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brii — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:07:33 GMT

@FrostyBabe wrote:
The article echoes exactly what my doctor has told me for several years...that eating a healthy, balanced diet negates the need for any supplements.

I agree...

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Mominohio — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:32:12 GMT

@brii wrote:
@FrostyBabe wrote:
The article echoes exactly what my doctor has told me for several years...that eating a healthy, balanced diet negates the need for any supplements.
I agree...

I disagree with this.

To maintain a proper weight, the average human body cannot be properly nourished with only foods, even if one eats only whole foods and in all necessary categories (and very few people actually do that). Those federal recommendations for daily amounts aren't accurate for everyone at every stage of life.

Most people have some deficiencies at some points in their lives, or could use a boost of certain vitamins or minerals to boost immunity or address other issues.

It isn't a cookie cutter, one size fits all type thing, and like anything else, vitamin and mineral supplementation can be a changing endeavor throughout the changes one's body experiences during life's journey.

But today's trend to marginalize or even demonize vitamin and mineral supplementation is really heading people in the wrong direction, in my opinion.

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Laura14 — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:16:49 GMT

I take supplements under my doctor's recommendation and it has kept me off of prescription medication at a much reduced cost. Nothing wrong with supplements as long as you know you need them and a doctor is watching you.

Like @Mominohio said, not everyone has a body that works correctly and can absorb everything you need from what you eat. Some of us have genetic blood issues and I know others have gut issues that prevent them from getting everything they need the "right" way.

I am very grateful I can buy something natural and get my body to where it needs to be without huge costs or potential side effects.

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Lipstickdiva — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:31:32 GMT

I shudder when I watch some of Andrew's shows and listen to the number of vitamins that Andrew, the hosts and some callers are taking. I just think of how all those vitamins affect ones liver, trying to process 50+ vitamins a day. Then he turns around and sells a product to help the liver. SMH

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SeaMaiden — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:38:32 GMT

Just like diet is no body's business but your own, what supplements a person takes or how many is THEIR business. Your body, your business. I take in a lot of supplements every day. Have been for 25 years. I do not care if someone else takes nothing. Why should someone comment that I am wasting MY MONEY if I choose to take lots of supplements? Perhaps it makes that person feel better?

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Susan Louise — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:47:28 GMT

@Lipstickdiva wrote:
I shudder when I watch some of Andrew's shows and listen to the number of vitamins that Andrew, the hosts and some callers are taking. I just think of how all those vitamins affect ones liver, trying to process 50+ vitamins a day. Then he turns around and sells a product to help the liver. SMH

@Lipstickdiva Oh my! That is a lot...

DH and I do take fish oil/Krill daily and he has to take a lot of fiber pills just before each meal because he had his gallbladder removed.

Besides the calcium, I used to take daily multi vitamins too. I stopped both of them and just take the krill oil pills.

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SeaMaiden — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:04:15 GMT

@FrostyBabe wrote:
The article echoes exactly what my doctor has told me for several years...that eating a healthy, balanced diet negates the need for any supplements.

Few doctors know know much of anything on nutrition. How many Americans REALLY eat a healthy balanced diet?

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Lipstickdiva — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:08:35 GMT

I'd rather eat a healthy, balanced diet than take a bunch of pills. It's not really any different than taking medications you possibly may not need to take if you would start eating better.

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sidsmom — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 19:15:10 GMT

@SeaMaiden wrote:
Just like diet is no body's business but your own, what supplements a person takes or how many is THEIR business.

Unfortunately, it IS my business.

All the 'innocent' supplements giving false security...eating a bad diet to fix it with a pill. All this results in continued bad health, more medication...eventually making my insurance rates higher.
It's my business.

All the animals used to test and/or create these vitamins...killing animals for a pill. They have no voice, but I speak for them.
It's my business.

All those bottles, which hold those vitamins, causing a huge plastic footprint in the landfill of my city.
It's my business.

All those add'l vitamins/minerals/synthetic materials being flushed down the toilet getting in my water system?
It's my business.

And if I had a doctor tell me I should supplement without ANY word about better nutrition & working to remove existing medication, I would smile pretty, say 'Bless Your Heart", and never, ever return.

Years & years & years of medical school, charging exorbitant prices only to prescribe a 'Flintstones Chewable?" Hellz no.

Stuns me to think there are doctors out there doing just this.

It's all about the food.
Plain and simple.
You cause the problem with the food.
You fix the problem with the food.

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Buck-i-Nana — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 19:33:14 GMT

Well, unless you are growing your own food, or living right next to the grower - that fresh food has lost a lot of those nutrients. That's just reality.

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scotnovel — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 19:42:51 GMT

@FrostyBabe wrote:
The article echoes exactly what my doctor has told me for several years...that eating a healthy, balanced diet negates the need for any supplements.

Unfortunately that is not always true. I eat a healthy balanced diet and get out into the sun but my vitamin D levels were dangerously low and stay there unless I take a supplement. The difference for me is that I was actually tested and I think a lot of people just take supplements without knowing if they have a normal level or not. I have also seen a number of comments over the years on this and other sites about people taking over the counter estroven type hormones and using progesterone creams also without any idea if their levels are normal. I was tested for those as well and had a progesterone deficiency but normal estrogen. None of those blodd tests were expensive and all were covered by insurance. The point is check with your physician and get some tests if you suspect a problem.

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CrazyDaisy — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 19:48:13 GMT

@sidsmom wrote:
@SeaMaiden wrote:
Just like diet is no body's business but your own, what supplements a person takes or how many is THEIR business.
Unfortunately, it IS my business.

All the 'innocent' supplements giving false security...eating a bad diet to fix it with a pill. All this results in continued bad health, more medication...eventually making my insurance rates higher.
It's my business.

All the animals used to test and/or create these vitamins...killing animals for a pill. They have no voice, but I speak for them.
It's my business.

All those bottles, which hold those vitamins, causing a huge plastic footprint in the landfill of my city.
It's my business.

All those add'l vitamins/minerals/synthetic materials being flushed down the toilet getting in my water system?
It's my business.

And if I had a doctor tell me I should supplement without ANY word about better nutrition & working to remove existing medication, I would smile pretty, say 'Bless Your Heart", and never, ever return.
Years & years & years of medical school, charging exorbitant prices only to prescribe a 'Flintstones Chewable?" Hellz no.
Stuns me to think there are doctors out there doing just this.

It's all about the food.
Plain and simple.
You cause the problem with the food.
You fix the problem with the food.

WOW, guess you think everything is your business. What else .......

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Mominohio — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 19:56:56 GMT

@SeaMaiden wrote:
@FrostyBabe wrote:
The article echoes exactly what my doctor has told me for several years...that eating a healthy, balanced diet negates the need for any supplements.

Few doctors know know much of anything on nutrition. How many Americans REALLY eat a healthy balanced diet?

This is so true. I have attempted to have talks with various doctors about nutrition, vitamins and minerals, and they really don't have much input. Many are not at all schooled in the subject to any depth.

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WSfan — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 20:01:43 GMT

I agree that many people take way too many vitamin/mineral supplements. I also agree that a lot of us do not eat a balanced diet everyday, especially fruits and vegetables. That is the reason that my husband and I take a simple mulitvitamin, similar to the old One A Day, which incidently is very difficult to find. You can find vitamins only for mem and women over and under 50, vitamins for your eyes, all types of vitamins, minerals and supplements from A to Z, but the good old One A Day type vitamin pill, the little red ones, have become rare. For those who are interested, CVS is the only store that we have found, that still sells a version of these vitamins. Just went shopping for them last week.

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Mominohio — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 20:05:57 GMT

@sidsmom wrote:
@SeaMaiden wrote:
Just like diet is no body's business but your own, what supplements a person takes or how many is THEIR business.
Unfortunately, it IS my business.

All the 'innocent' supplements giving false security...eating a bad diet to fix it with a pill. All this results in continued bad health, more medication...eventually making my insurance rates higher.
It's my business.

All the animals used to test and/or create these vitamins...killing animals for a pill. They have no voice, but I speak for them.
It's my business.

All those bottles, which hold those vitamins, causing a huge plastic footprint in the landfill of my city.
It's my business.

All those add'l vitamins/minerals/synthetic materials being flushed down the toilet getting in my water system?
It's my business.

And if I had a doctor tell me I should supplement without ANY word about better nutrition & working to remove existing medication, I would smile pretty, say 'Bless Your Heart", and never, ever return.
Years & years & years of medical school, charging exorbitant prices only to prescribe a 'Flintstones Chewable?" Hellz no.
Stuns me to think there are doctors out there doing just this.

It's all about the food.
Plain and simple.
You cause the problem with the food.
You fix the problem with the food.

This is way too simplistic, and is nowhere close to the truth for many people and various issues that they have that can be helped with certain vitamins and mineral suppliments.

Anyone taking a "Flinstone" vitamin (or anything that resembles it) isn't serious about fixing anything or in aiding their body with real vitamin or mineral additions. It is a much more in depth thing than people eat bad, people need a nutrition lesson. There are many people who despite excellent diets, still have deficiencies in some areas.

And it really isn't anyone else's business (unless they want it to be) about whether others do or don't take supplements. What a crock going so far as the use of the landfill or water systems as some lame excuse for making it so.

I guess that makes it everyone's business how much one drives a car, or travels on planes, because of the horrible damage done to the ozone and the depletion of our natural resources every time one does so.

Give me a break.

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sidsmom — Mon, 11 Jan 2016 21:08:20 GMT

@Mominohio wrote:
@SeaMaiden wrote:
@FrostyBabe wrote:
The article echoes exactly what my doctor has told me for several years...that eating a healthy, balanced diet negates the need for any supplements.

Few doctors know know much of anything on nutrition. How many Americans REALLY eat a healthy balanced diet?
This is so true. I have attempted to have talks with various doctors about nutrition, vitamins and minerals, and they really don't have much input. Many are not at all schooled in the subject to any depth.

THAT'S why we must be ambassors to our own good health.

Read. Listen. Learn. Make educated choices. Do it right.

I'm currently reading a book called "How Not to Die" by Dr. Michael Greger.
He talks about his journey through medical school...looking for nutritional education:

"Only a quarter of medical schools appear to offer a single dedicated course on nutrition. During my first interview, for medical school at Cornell University, I remember the interviewer empathetically stating, "Nutrition is superfluous to human health." And he was a pediatrician! I know I was in for a long road ahead. Come to think of it, I think the only medical professional who ever asked me about family member's diet was...our veterinarian."

We care more about what we feed Fluffy & Rover than Grandma.

Sad, but true.