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Interesting Fact about the NFL...

terrier3 — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 16:47:09 GMT

It is the ONLY sport with a 100% injury rate.

Yes, that's right - 100% of participants end up with an injury of one kind or another.

It's being marketed as being as "American as apple pie"...a real eye opener!

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Lila Belle — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 17:25:42 GMT

I never thought of it that way !

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scotnovel — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 17:30:18 GMT

What about hockey? Seems like there are a lot of injuries in that sport and potential for long term issues. Boxing - MMA (sports or not??) results in some type of injury for everyone. I'm not defending the NFL but just saying it isn't the only sport with injuries or potential for injuries.

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hckynutjohn — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 17:41:37 GMT

@terrier3 wrote:
It is the ONLY sport with a 100% injury rate.

Yes, that's right - 100% of participants end up with an injury of one kind or another.

It's being marketed as being as "American as apple pie"...a real eye opener!

Hi terrier3,

I know you are quite familiar with ice hockey. Now I have never played or officiated at the NHL level but this study evidently forgot that the NHL is a sport.

You pretty much know my hockey history and this I can tell you. In all my decades of being a participant/referee/running an adult league. I do not know of 1 single player, that has played up to the "hobby" adult level that has not suffered an injury "of one kind or another". Some not so bad, others ending their playing and on-ice participating days.

I would absolutely love to have a chat with those that did this study and see the criteria that was used for the word, "injury". Needless to say: I ain't buying what they are trying to sell.

Happy New Year to you and yours,

hckynut(john)

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mstyrion 1 — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 17:42:51 GMT

That is a chilling statistic.

I would agree that hockey and boxing also probably have a 100% injury rate. Unfortunately, parents let very young children play football and high schools and colleges put incredible emphasis on football as opposed to those other sports.

I would like to see a ban on contact football for anyone under 18 years old. Long-term damage to still developing bodies is a terrible thing for a youn person to face.

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CardinalGirl — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 17:44:13 GMT

I've never seen a boxer come out of ONE fight unscathed, let alone every fight.

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Preds — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 17:45:39 GMT

I would have never dreamed that a contact sport would result in injuries to its players. If you aren't injured at some point then you are not doing it right. Wonder how much money was wasted on figuring this out.

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Maudelynn — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 17:46:47 GMT

@mstyrion 1 wrote:
That is a chilling statistic.

I would agree that hockey and boxing also probably have a 100% injury rate. Unfortunately, parents let very young children play football and high schools and colleges put incredible emphasis on football as opposed to those other sports.

I would like to see a ban on contact football for anyone under 18 years old. Long-term damage to still developing bodies is a terrible thing for a youn person to face.

I agree with you. How then would colleges recruit young men to form championship teams, which is a huge money-maker for schools?

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mstyrion 1 — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 17:50:53 GMT

@Maudelynn wrote:
@mstyrion 1 wrote:
That is a chilling statistic.

I would agree that hockey and boxing also probably have a 100% injury rate. Unfortunately, parents let very young children play football and high schools and colleges put incredible emphasis on football as opposed to those other sports.

I would like to see a ban on contact football for anyone under 18 years old. Long-term damage to still developing bodies is a terrible thing for a youn person to face.
I agree with you. How then would colleges recruit young men to form championship teams, which is a huge money-maker for schools?

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I don't have the answer for that maudelynn.

I know football is a big money-maker for colleges. Too much so. If it didn't exist anymore, I guess they would come up with other ways. Maybe emphasize baseball, swimming or basketball more. I dislike how sports have come to rule colleges, so I don't really have an open mind on the subject!

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Lion — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 17:54:58 GMT

With all we are learning about the serious dangers of playing football, I don't know how any parent would let their child do it.

While boxing and hockey probably do have similar high injury rates, football is much more mainstream.

It's offered and promoted much more in schools across the country and played by far more children than hockey, and definitely more than boxing.

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scotnovel — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 17:55:04 GMT

There are literally tens of thousands of people who have played football and other contact sports starting with peewee leagues all the way up to pro level. While true some of those have had VERY serious injuries, the vast majority have not. You can also make a case that running track or similar Olympic type sports like gymnastics at an early age puts undue strain on young, underdeveloped joints and muscles, even though they aren't contact sports. Yet, we continue to cheer on our Olympic team members. All sports include risks and it is up to those involved to make informed decisions, with input from their own physicians, etc to decide whether to take those risks.

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kdgn — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 18:01:12 GMT

I would really like to see a ban on youth football. I'm not speaking of high school football, but of the youth teams- kids that are 8 and 9 years old are playing on traveling teams. While the kids may be having a lot of fun, there are serious injuries happening to them. I'm not convinced by any stretch of the imagination that the coaches have been properly trained to teach these boys how to play. The coaches I know are volunteer parents with little training.

At least at the high school level most coaches are PE teachers who have a background in sports.

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Lion — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 18:01:17 GMT

@scotnovel wrote:
There are literally tens of thousands of people who have played football and other contact sports starting with peewee leagues all the way up to pro level. While true some of those have had VERY serious injuries, the vast majority have not. You can also make a case that running track or similar Olympic type sports like gymnastics at an early age puts undue strain on young, underdeveloped joints and muscles, even though they aren't contact sports. Yet, we continue to cheer on our Olympic team members. All sports include risks and it is up to those involved to make informed decisions, with input from their own physicians, etc to decide whether to take those risks.

I wouldn't risk my child being one of those having a very serious injury.

Contact football innately carries much more risk than other school sports.

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INDIANA BONES — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 18:03:34 GMT

As far as I have been informed, that is the main reason for the high salaries for the players. They risk injuries every game. Their career span is much shorter than other careers. I was fortunate in growing up in an area that many Redskin players lived (many years ago) and they did not make the money the players make in today's time.

100 percent is not a shock at all to me. Look up Cam Newton's salary (one of the highest paid in the league) and it is surreal.

What amazes me is the number of great athletics that commit crimes and ruin these dream careers they worked so hard for.

I would like to know if commercials pay for some of the salaries? Does anyone know the percentage teams get of commercial sales?

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hckynutjohn — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 18:17:24 GMT

@mstyrion 1 wrote:
That is a chilling statistic.

I would agree that hockey and boxing also probably have a 100% injury rate. Unfortunately, parents let very young children play football and high schools and colleges put incredible emphasis on football as opposed to those other sports.

I would like to see a ban on contact football for anyone under 18 years old. Long-term damage to still developing bodies is a terrible thing for a youn person to face.

Kids start playing hockey in our city at 5 years old. At age 8 they can be on "travel teams", which play in other cities a big share of their games. Same with high school. We also have a Division I College Team in our city which includes many scholarship players from around our country/Europe and Canada, just to name a few. And our city is nowhere close to a BIG market hockey city.

I quit being a Referee in Youth Hockey because of the parents and coaches putting way too much pressure on these very young kids. I no longer enjoyed doing these games so I did only Adult League games.

A good friend of mine, who at the time was a Dentist, now an Oral Surgeon. His oldest son had a Full Ride Scholarship to Michigan University He had a concussion midway through his Senior Year, it was his 3rd.

His dad had him checked my many doctors and all said the same thing. If you play you have a high risk of permanent brain damage and possible paralysis. He loved the game but decided to give it up. He became a City Firefighter/EMT and now is also a Paramedic.

Parents do push hockey and I wanted to pass that on.

hckynut(john)

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INDIANA BONES — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 20:48:25 GMT

@hckynutjohn

I have not been able to find statistics of every player having a major or minor injury. One team had a 100 percent rate of injury a few years ago.

I think the key to the 100 percent is the sentence stating an injury of one kind or another. This could include a jammed finger or other non serious injury.

I think it is more important to worry about the youth playing in schools with undeveloped bodies that are receiving injuries that may affect them in a negative way for life.

BTW -- Love hockey and that is a very rough sport. Most co-workers are hockey fans.

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chrystaltree — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 21:02:22 GMT

I never thought about it and I honestly don't care. The players choose to play, they are very well paid and they certainly know the risks. So, I don't see an issue.

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INDIANA BONES — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 21:15:50 GMT

At my age, I find many men at work that have problems walking up steps,etc. that when they get MRI are the results from injuries they received when playing youth sports.

I would think a good doctor would determine if a child is fully developed to play certain sports such as football. Better equipment? I have no idea what would help. Everything stated was my opinion and I am certainly not trained to do so or I would have MD behind my name.

I do know my daughters boyfriend had one broken leg, one broken angle and one broken thumb (which the last he broke himself in a hold) while High School wrestling.

Of course, look at us that are middle aged that played sports through school that ended up fine. Aches and pains are from Old age.

I personally have 2 nieces that had free rides through college and than were coaches at the college because they started sports so young.

I know my brother coached for 20 years or more youth baseball and had to quit because of parents pushing children to play sports they did not want to play. They would fight him literally for not putting their child in the correct position, etc, etc.

I think young adult sports should be left to those that know more than I do such a doctors, coaches, etc.

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INDIANA BONES — Sat, 02 Jan 2016 21:16:43 GMT

on the bright side, can't wait for the games tomrrow!!