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Leather ?

MarieIG — Sun, 06 Dec 2015 18:58:07 GMT

I was looking at the description of the leather handbag on one of the other stations. The bag (which was noted to be imported) was described as leather, but under the description of leather was a notation that the skins could come from animals, "including but not limited to" (cows, pigs, sheep). My cut and paste disappeared so I my wording may not be exact.

The phrase (including but not limited to) bothered me. I may not be consistent, but there are certain animals I would never, ever want to be part of my handbag.

I feel very strongly that the customer should be given full information as to what they are purchasing - and to make an informed purchase. Am I the only one?

Re: Leather ?

millieshops — Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:17:01 GMT

It's just a guess, but when that's what they tell me, then that's what I think they know and what I use to make my decision.

When it's something I feel strongly about, I can back away, there's always an alternative product.

I don't much care about the company's reasoning - whether that's all they know, all they care to know, or all they're willing to admit the primary selling knows or is willing to swear to. Doesn't matter - they can't tell me what they don't know and if I don't trust the company, I back off. I've also learned to pick my battles - different things undoubtedly matter to me than might matter to someone else.

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Puzzle Piece — Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:31:26 GMT

Not just the other channel, but the Q also describes much of it's leather items in the same way. I do agree that it's something I'd want to know much more about as to what kind of leather or what kind of animal gave up it's life for the product.

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esmeraldagooch — Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:40:30 GMT

@Puzzle Piece wrote:
Not just the other channel, but the Q also describes much of it's leather items in the same way. I do agree that it's something I'd want to know much more about as to what kind of leather or what kind of animal gave up it's life for the product.

There is a difference between a animal killed for fur and nothing else (mink for one) and a hide where the animal is consumed and the hide is a by product used instead of throwing it away.

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CatsyCline — Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:43:08 GMT

is it the TS bag on the other channel? the web description on those JM bags always state that there is a possibility the leather in those bags may be comprised of "pig/cow/lamb" . i don't know how thet are selling over 40,000 of those things. they always get ton of horrible reviews

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MarieIG — Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:59:43 GMT

@millieshops wrote:
It's just a guess, but when that's what they tell me, then that's what I think they know and what I use to make my decision.

When it's something I feel strongly about, I can back away, there's always an alternative product.

I don't much care about the company's reasoning - whether that's all they know, all they care to know, or all they're willing to admit the primary selling knows or is willing to swear to. Doesn't matter - they can't tell me what they don't know and if I don't trust the company, I back off. I've also learned to pick my battles - different things undoubtedly matter to me than might matter to someone else.

I backed off.

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MarieIG — Sun, 06 Dec 2015 20:10:30 GMT

@esmeraldagooch wrote:
@Puzzle Piece wrote:
Not just the other channel, but the Q also describes much of it's leather items in the same way. I do agree that it's something I'd want to know much more about as to what kind of leather or what kind of animal gave up it's life for the product.
There is a difference between a animal killed for fur and nothing else (mink for one) and a hide where the animal is consumed and the hide is a by product used instead of throwing it away.

I agree that there is a difference; I have worn "leather" shoes, which I assumed were made from cow hide. Although in a country where i.e., cats are on the menu, I would never buy something made with cat skin. (Love my kitties too much.)

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MarieIG — Sun, 06 Dec 2015 20:06:01 GMT

@ashleigh dupray wrote:
is it the TS bag on the other channel? the web description on those JM bags always state that there is a possibility the leather in those bags may be comprised of "pig/cow/lamb" . i don't know how thet are selling over 40,000 of those things. they always get ton of horrible reviews

Yes.

I found all the zippers and compartments attractive - until I read the description. The description is not limited to pig/cow/ lamb. The "including but not limited to" is the part I find disturbing.

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terrier3 — Sun, 06 Dec 2015 20:27:09 GMT

@ashleigh dupray wrote:
is it the TS bag on the other channel? the web description on those JM bags always state that there is a possibility the leather in those bags may be comprised of "pig/cow/lamb" . i don't know how thet are selling over 40,000 of those things. they always get ton of horrible reviews

They are HORRIBLE bags.

The products that Iman sells on her own are quite nice - when she pairs up with Joy - it's junk.

Just my opinion!

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MarieIG — Sun, 06 Dec 2015 20:47:42 GMT

@terrier3 wrote:
@ashleigh dupray wrote:
is it the TS bag on the other channel? the web description on those JM bags always state that there is a possibility the leather in those bags may be comprised of "pig/cow/lamb" . i don't know how thet are selling over 40,000 of those things. they always get ton of horrible reviews
They are HORRIBLE bags.

The products that Iman sells on her own are quite nice - when she pairs up with Joy - it's junk.

Just my opinion!

I've crossed it off my list already; but if I'm interested in buying a product, I do like to consider the opinions of others as to quality when making my decision to purchase.

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CatsyCline — Sun, 06 Dec 2015 20:54:19 GMT

so confused about Joy and Iman and these bags! their reviews for past iterations have been awful and they still use the same cheap kwap to make these things. cardboard, glue and frankenleather. really questioning Joy with the movie coming out i wonder if she carries these bags herself lol

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Kachina624 — Sun, 06 Dec 2015 21:33:11 GMT

@ashleigh dupray wrote:
so confused about Joy and Iman and these bags! their reviews for past iterations have been awful and they still use the same cheap kwap to make these things. cardboard, glue and frankenleather. really questioning Joy with the movie coming out i wonder if she carries these bags herself lol

I'd be willing to bet $100, that Joy wouldn't be caught dead carrying this piece of junk. The bag I got was literally leather over cardboard.

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terrier3 — Sun, 06 Dec 2015 22:09:53 GMT

@MarieIG wrote:
@ashleigh dupray wrote:
is it the TS bag on the other channel? the web description on those JM bags always state that there is a possibility the leather in those bags may be comprised of "pig/cow/lamb" . i don't know how thet are selling over 40,000 of those things. they always get ton of horrible reviews

Yes.
I found all the zippers and compartments attractive - until I read the description. The description is not limited to pig/cow/ lamb. The "including but not limited to" is the part I find disturbing.

These bags appear to be more cardboard than leather anyway!

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foundinlv — Sun, 06 Dec 2015 22:20:51 GMT

When Dooney and other brands on Qvc state their leather is from Italy, I'm not quite sure what they're talking about. Dooney has also said the same thing about their nylon bags.... all assembled in China of course.

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sfnative — Sun, 06 Dec 2015 22:49:58 GMT

@millieshops wrote:
It's just a guess, but when that's what they tell me, then that's what I think they know and what I use to make my decision.

When it's something I feel strongly about, I can back away, there's always an alternative product.

I don't much care about the company's reasoning - whether that's all they know, all they care to know, or all they're willing to admit the primary selling knows or is willing to swear to. Doesn't matter - they can't tell me what they don't know and if I don't trust the company, I back off. I've also learned to pick my battles - different things undoubtedly matter to me than might matter to someone else.

@millieshops

On some occasions, I've chosen not to purchase from such companies. Period. As consumers we do have the option to speak out through our pocket books.

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Q4u — Sun, 06 Dec 2015 22:57:01 GMT

Regarding the leather used (generally) for handbags are the waste products from food sources that would be thrown away and wasted if not sold. These skins are bought in bulk from many sources (that's why they list different animals). How they then tan the hides, dye them or cut them thinly and adhere them to some other material are individual to the purse manufacturer and can be done in many ways. Legally, they can say something is "leather" if there is leather anywhere, however I've seen some horrible leather that shouldn't be described as such because of what was done to it. I agree that the manufacturer of the handbag should say specifically what the leather is....... I don't feel comfortble buying "mystery" leather either.....