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GIFTS, CELEBRATIONS AND FAMILIES - THE EVOLUTION

Moonchilde — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:28:13 GMT

I am continually bemused by people's vehement insistence that the past way of doing things and experiencing things is "better" than the way things are now, and being huffy about it or judgmental about differences.

Sure, we all have preferences for ourselves, and many look fondly on the past - but times change. What was fun, great, valued, worthy, etc. in a past generation may not be the same now, and new customs and likes may be the norm. That's the way it's been since man evolved out of the African savannah.

To many I would be considered an "old lady" - but that doesn't automatically mean all my likes and dislikes, wants, needs, etc. are stuck in the past. I "move with the times", to use a horrible cliche. I may not love something "new" and becoming "the usual", but I understand I'm not going to change it, or people, and whining or complaining about it only makes people regard you as a crabby old fahrt. I either appreciate and embrace something new (from attitude to technology) or choose not to use it/do it, but I don't condemn large groups of people as being bad, horrible, wrong, morally inferior or extravagant for choosing things I don't choose.

To each their own, and that's a good thing.

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brii — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:34:03 GMT

I agree.

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jlkz — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:53:20 GMT

@Moonchilde

Well said...and you are NOT an old lady. I have met some oldsters in their 20's and it is not a pretty event !!!!!

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september — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:57:39 GMT

Some traditions are nice and should continue.

Others....like putting real candles on real Christmas trees....uh, no! I love my prelit fake tree.

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millieshops — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 22:33:32 GMT

@septemberNot sure what you mean by "should."

I fully understand a family group wanting to establish traditions that make them feel like members of a strong family, but I also feel there are many ways to do that and that families can change the specifics of their traditions over the years while maintaining the underlying basis for their traditions.

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stevieb — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 22:59:43 GMT

@Moonchilde wrote:
I am continually bemused by people's vehement insistence that the past way of doing things and experiencing things is "better" than the way things are now, and being huffy about it or judgmental about differences.

Sure, we all have preferences for ourselves, and many look fondly on the past - but times change. What was fun, great, valued, worthy, etc. in a past generation may not be the same now, and new customs and likes may be the norm. That's the way it's been since man evolved out of the African savannah.

To many I would be considered an "old lady" - but that doesn't automatically mean all my likes and dislikes, wants, needs, etc. are stuck in the past. I "move with the times", to use a horrible cliche. I may not love something "new" and becoming "the usual", but I understand I'm not going to change it, or people, and whining or complaining about it only makes people regard you as a crabby old fahrt. I either appreciate and embrace something new (from attitude to technology) or choose not to use it/do it, but I don't condemn large groups of people as being bad, horrible, wrong, morally inferior or extravagant for choosing things I don't choose.

To each their own, and that's a good thing.

It's often good to be progressive, but sometimes folks just like to ventillate... Sometimes they honestly feel the need to rant and sometimes they rant because they see what they held dear evaporating, they don't like it and, quite honestly, they're scared...

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sylviahomeatlast — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 00:09:35 GMT

When we bought our first "fake" tree with lights, I had a great sigh of gratitude. No more trekking through the mountains along with 150 others with tree permits --our kids up to their necks in snow; or picking through tree lots in the freezing hoping to find the "perfect" tree
Whew happy days are here
Enjoying the decorating and each other

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Moonchilde — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 00:50:23 GMT

@september wrote:
Some traditions are nice and should continue.

To be sure - but not "mandatory" for all. I know what you mean ;-)

Tradition can be wonderful, as long as there is room for new traditions to start too.

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Moonchilde — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 00:53:13 GMT

@stevieb wrote:
@Moonchilde wrote:
I am continually bemused by people's vehement insistence that the past way of doing things and experiencing things is "better" than the way things are now, and being huffy about it or judgmental about differences.

Sure, we all have preferences for ourselves, and many look fondly on the past - but times change. What was fun, great, valued, worthy, etc. in a past generation may not be the same now, and new customs and likes may be the norm. That's the way it's been since man evolved out of the African savannah.

To many I would be considered an "old lady" - but that doesn't automatically mean all my likes and dislikes, wants, needs, etc. are stuck in the past. I "move with the times", to use a horrible cliche. I may not love something "new" and becoming "the usual", but I understand I'm not going to change it, or people, and whining or complaining about it only makes people regard you as a crabby old fahrt. I either appreciate and embrace something new (from attitude to technology) or choose not to use it/do it, but I don't condemn large groups of people as being bad, horrible, wrong, morally inferior or extravagant for choosing things I don't choose.

To each their own, and that's a good thing.
It's often good to be progressive, but sometimes folks just like to ventillate... Sometimes they honestly feel the need to rant and sometimes they rant because they see what they held dear evaporating, they don't like it and, quite honestly, they're scared...

There is venting, and there is crabbing. Most of us can tell the difference. Sharing one's favorite nostalgias of the past isn't the same as passing judgment of anyone whose customs have evolved or changed or are different.

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feline groovy — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 04:58:09 GMT

@Moonchilde wrote:
I am continually bemused by people's vehement insistence that the past way of doing things and experiencing things is "better" than the way things are now, and being huffy about it or judgmental about differences.

Sure, we all have preferences for ourselves, and many look fondly on the past - but times change. What was fun, great, valued, worthy, etc. in a past generation may not be the same now, and new customs and likes may be the norm. That's the way it's been since man evolved out of the African savannah.

To many I would be considered an "old lady" - but that doesn't automatically mean all my likes and dislikes, wants, needs, etc. are stuck in the past. I "move with the times", to use a horrible cliche. I may not love something "new" and becoming "the usual", but I understand I'm not going to change it, or people, and whining or complaining about it only makes people regard you as a crabby old fahrt. I either appreciate and embrace something new (from attitude to technology) or choose not to use it/do it, but I don't condemn large groups of people as being bad, horrible, wrong, morally inferior or extravagant for choosing things I don't choose.

To each their own, and that's a good thing.

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stevieb — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:09:33 GMT

@Moonchilde wrote:
@stevieb wrote:
@Moonchilde wrote:
I am continually bemused by people's vehement insistence that the past way of doing things and experiencing things is "better" than the way things are now, and being huffy about it or judgmental about differences.

Sure, we all have preferences for ourselves, and many look fondly on the past - but times change. What was fun, great, valued, worthy, etc. in a past generation may not be the same now, and new customs and likes may be the norm. That's the way it's been since man evolved out of the African savannah.

To many I would be considered an "old lady" - but that doesn't automatically mean all my likes and dislikes, wants, needs, etc. are stuck in the past. I "move with the times", to use a horrible cliche. I may not love something "new" and becoming "the usual", but I understand I'm not going to change it, or people, and whining or complaining about it only makes people regard you as a crabby old fahrt. I either appreciate and embrace something new (from attitude to technology) or choose not to use it/do it, but I don't condemn large groups of people as being bad, horrible, wrong, morally inferior or extravagant for choosing things I don't choose.

To each their own, and that's a good thing.
It's often good to be progressive, but sometimes folks just like to ventillate... Sometimes they honestly feel the need to rant and sometimes they rant because they see what they held dear evaporating, they don't like it and, quite honestly, they're scared...

There is venting, and there is crabbing. Most of us can tell the difference. Sharing one's favorite nostalgias of the past isn't the same as passing judgment of anyone whose customs have evolved or changed or are different.

I'm not arguing with you, I'm merely pointing out that sometimes trying to develop a little understanding as to why people choose to 'crab' is warranted. Passing judgment, after all, is passing judgment, whether one is passing judgment on those who 'crab' or whether one is passing judgment on differing customs...

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CrazyDaisy — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:48:41 GMT

How boring it would be if everyone did the same old thing.

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Puzzle Piece — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 17:09:27 GMT

Every generation defines things for themselves as better or newer. Just how folks are.

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Shorty2U — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 17:28:40 GMT

I agree times change and we evolve. However I wish my parents, aunts and uncles (and some of my cousins who sadly died young!) were still alive. I am in my 50s and all of the above are gone. (My children never got to meet my Mom, she died young. Yet they have their grandparents on their dads side).

We had huge Christmas parties with them all night long until early morning. I miss that and I miss them all.

For years (even with the losses I dealt with), I was the most Christmas spirited person you would know. But to be honest, I am not into Christmas since my dad died 4 years ago, and since my grandchildren are getting older.

However, I put on a smile for them and form new memories, but I am not embarrassed to say I miss my family and the old days long gone.

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goldensrbest — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 21:46:25 GMT

I feel it is a nice thing to do,when you have one or two things your family did,when you were growing up,and deciding to continue with them,with your family,i did that when my boys were growing up, i think it shows you really appreciated it,and shows love, there is nothing wrong with a person doing this.