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Colorado Springs

Maudelynn — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:07:54 GMT

We're finding out more about the shooter. Do you think his actions are a combination of mental illness (he was clearly disturbed) and the current rhetoric around his target?

I say yes. What say you?

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terrier3 — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:10:20 GMT

Yes. Yes. YES.

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Puzzle Piece — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:19:33 GMT

Yes, he's a nut job but I don't know about his target. It was conveninet and he had some axe's to grind with quite a few folks and institutions. I think the target was convenient as he was shooting outside before he went inside the building - convenient. It could have been a McDonald's and he'd be complaining about something in the happy meals.

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mstyrion 1 — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:37:46 GMT

@terrier3 wrote:
Yes. Yes. YES.

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terrier3 — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:38:52 GMT

@Puzzle Piece wrote:
Yes, he's a nut job but I don't know about his target. It was conveninet and he had some axe's to grind with quite a few folks and institutions. I think the target was convenient as he was shooting outside before he went inside the building - convenient. It could have been a McDonald's and he'd be complaining about something in the happy meals.

But he wasn't upset about Happy Meals.

His first utterances were about "no more baby parts."

The FALSE, hate filled language of someone who bought the fake tapes hook line and sinker.

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deepwaterdotter — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:51:38 GMT

I need more evidentiary information.

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terrier3 — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:04:26 GMT

@deepwaterdotter wrote:
I need more evidentiary information.

Not to worry...it will be coming.

In fact a LOT more came out today re: his interactions with his neighbors and the pamphlets he gave them.

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Maudelynn — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:10:39 GMT

@terrier3 wrote:
@deepwaterdotter wrote:
I need more evidentiary information.

Not to worry...it will be coming.

In fact a LOT more came out today re: his interactions with his neighbors and the pamphlets he gave them.

Yes. Saw that.

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JustJazzmom — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:13:50 GMT

So I am curious-- how is the media 'labeling' him-- as a mentally ill person in possession of a gun or as a homegrown terrorist?

Oh wait, he's both!!

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terrier3 — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:21:57 GMT

@JustJazzmom wrote:
So I am curious-- how is the media 'labeling' him-- as a mentally ill person in possession of a gun or as a homegrown terrorist?

Oh wait, he's both!!

You forgot to add that he is a cop killer too...and injured several other LE officers too.

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RubyinNE — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:25:53 GMT

Of course he was mentally ill, but his target was the Planned Parenthood clinic.

I won't get into politics, but I will say there was a lot of misinformation and hateful rhetoric regarding the mission of PP. People who are unbalanced react in horrific ways. My thoughts go out to the police officer's family and friends, and the two other victims who were killed in cold blood.

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terrier3 — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:40:03 GMT

@RubyinNE wrote:
Of course he was mentally ill, but his target was the Planned Parenthood clinic.
I won't get into politics, but I will say there was a lot of misinformation and hateful rhetoric regarding the mission of PP. People who are unbalanced react in horrific ways. My thoughts go out to the police officer's family and friends, and the two other victims who were killed in cold blood.

I'm waiting for the comments and reactions from those who spread all that misinformation on a national stage.

They are uncharacteristically quiet now.

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NoelSeven — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:49:19 GMT

Yes.

It's been well known for quite some time that continuing hate talk can push someone over the edge.

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SerenitySilk — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:55:04 GMT

Such a tragic loss of life. My thoughts and prayers to the victims and their families as well as those involved in this tragedy.

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foundinlv — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 18:02:25 GMT

Shouldn't the producer of the fraudulent videos be punished?

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terrier3 — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 18:06:11 GMT

@foundinlv wrote:
Shouldn't the producer of the fraudulent videos be punished?

The funny thing is that his mentor, James O'Keefe, HAS been convicted of doctoring tapes (and paid a civil fine to the injured parties - many thousands of dollars) and also breaking and entering a federal office.

Just like a certain guy on the public stage now...the lies and the untruths don't matter at all. The supporters just double down and insist that they are right. Any and all lies are accepted for the "cause."

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foundinlv — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 18:13:33 GMT

@terrier3 wrote:
@foundinlv wrote:
Shouldn't the producer of the fraudulent videos be punished?
The funny thing is that his mentor, James O'Keefe, HAS been convicted of doctoring tapes (and paid a civil fine to the injured parties - many thousands of dollars) and also breaking and entering a federal office.

Just like a certain guy on the public stage now...the lies and the untruths don't matter at all. The supporters just double down and insist that they are right. Any and all lies are accepted for the "cause."

I don't know who you are referring to but the producer of the fraudulent videos has publicly announced they were fraudulent and stated he never condoned violence. Damage control. How could anyone continue to believe in the videos after that?

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Lila Belle — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 18:17:14 GMT

@foundinlv wrote:
@terrier3 wrote:
@foundinlv wrote:
Shouldn't the producer of the fraudulent videos be punished?
The funny thing is that his mentor, James O'Keefe, HAS been convicted of doctoring tapes (and paid a civil fine to the injured parties - many thousands of dollars) and also breaking and entering a federal office.

Just like a certain guy on the public stage now...the lies and the untruths don't matter at all. The supporters just double down and insist that they are right. Any and all lies are accepted for the "cause."

I don't know who you are referring to but the producer of the fraudulent videos has pubically announced they were fraudulent and stated he never condoned violence. Damage control. How could anyone continue to believe in the videos after that?

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Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes true to those who want it to be true.

We have posters here who say they don't trust facts.

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stevieb — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 18:20:11 GMT

@terrier3 wrote:
@foundinlv wrote:
Shouldn't the producer of the fraudulent videos be punished?
The funny thing is that his mentor, James O'Keefe, HAS been convicted of doctoring tapes (and paid a civil fine to the injured parties - many thousands of dollars) and also breaking and entering a federal office.

Just like a certain guy on the public stage now...the lies and the untruths don't matter at all. The supporters just double down and insist that they are right. Any and all lies are accepted for the "cause."

Sadly, it seems this is becoming standard operating procedure, regardless of the cause, regardless of who's espousing it and regardless of whether the cause is a national, local or personal one...

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jubilant — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 18:21:32 GMT

@terrier3 wrote:
@RubyinNE wrote:
Of course he was mentally ill, but his target was the Planned Parenthood clinic.
I won't get into politics, but I will say there was a lot of misinformation and hateful rhetoric regarding the mission of PP. People who are unbalanced react in horrific ways. My thoughts go out to the police officer's family and friends, and the two other victims who were killed in cold blood.
I'm waiting for the comments and reactions from those who spread all that misinformation on a national stage.

They are uncharacteristically quiet now.

********* Terrier.....I realize you are passionate about PP and you have suffered loss. I am sorry for your loss. I feel you are being more political than you think you are. You may very well be right about, "the baby parts"....but could it be that the next day it could have been isis, or global warming or whatever.... that this man was ranting about? As others have said he targeted police, too.

Also, I don't rely on those video's one way or another. People who have worked in abortion clinics....including nurses and doctors have witnessed the murder of fully formed babies way before these video's. Some could not stomach it and even quit their jobs over it. This man had no right to do what he did, but please don't tell me you are not using this to further your cause. I sure as heck am using this post to further mine. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.