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Turkey shoots down Russian plane

Mominohio — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:38:39 GMT

Anyone care to offer up what the consequences for this might be, and what events this may lead to?

Reports say Russian warplane had 10 unanswered (confirmed by several sources apparently) warnings before it was taken down.

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Topaz Gem — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:41:37 GMT

@Mominohio wrote:
Anyone care to offer up what the consequences for this might be, and what events this may lead to?

Reports say Russian warplane had 10 unanswered (confirmed by several sources apparently) warnings before it was taken down.

That's the iffy part. I heard the same thing on the way to work this morning. It seems as if the Russian plane had a duty to answer the warnings, but not answering them gave the Turkish no other alternative. When you choose not to answer, it makes you look suspicious, IMO.

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dex — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:45:06 GMT

why did they kill the pilots as they parachuted from the plane?I don't think that was necessary.

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Topaz Gem — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:46:44 GMT

@dex wrote:
why did they kill the pilots as they parachuted from the plane?I don't think that was necessary.

Capturing them should have been sufficient, IMO.

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chickenbutt — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:52:36 GMT

I know this is totally NOT funny and I'll leave after this - but sometimes I'm such an idiot anymore that when I read this headline on my home page this morning I immediately thought 'a turkey? really?'. I'm not just making up a joke - this is where my head went. *sigh*

Back to your regularly scheduled program...

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Laura14 — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:56:40 GMT

@chickenbutt LOL, turkeys would be on edge this week!

I had not heard that they killed the pilots but I guess if you encroach the airspace, you take the consequences. In a world of biological and other weapons, I unfortunately get it.

This reminds me of France back in the day when they warned Reagan very sternly not to fly over their airspace on his way to bomb Gadaffi. We asked our French teacher how to say that in French.

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deepwaterdotter — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 19:10:45 GMT

I think there will be an investigation. Putin is wise to avoid a military confrontation with NATO.

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Mama Mia — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 19:14:30 GMT

@chickenbutt wrote:
I know this is totally NOT funny and I'll leave after this - but sometimes I'm such an idiot anymore that when I read this headline on my home page this morning I immediately thought 'a turkey? really?'. I'm not just making up a joke - this is where my head went. *sigh*

Back to your regularly scheduled program...

Me too, just the way my chemo brain operates. LOl

mm

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MaggieMack — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 19:17:05 GMT

I just heard the experts discussing the incident. They said the plane was clearly in Turkey air space, but that in their opinion Turkey was too quick to react even given the 10 notifications, said there was no reason to do so. Who knows. Just what the world needs now, more international tension. We are apparently supporting Turkey's actions.

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Lila Belle — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 19:23:23 GMT

We have verified that they were in Turkish air space 2-3 seconds. How could 10 warnings be given and then the pilots fired at ?

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IamMrsG — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 19:27:43 GMT

@chickenbutt wrote:
I know this is totally NOT funny and I'll leave after this - but sometimes I'm such an idiot anymore that when I read this headline on my home page this morning I immediately thought 'a turkey? really?'. I'm not just making up a joke - this is where my head went. *sigh*

Back to your regularly scheduled program....

I acknowledge this may not be the appropriate time for levity, but, then again, in these trying times, it may be the perfect time.

@chickenbutt Oh my goodness, did you ever create a flashback memory for me. I had to share this You Tube video, WKRP "As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly" Thanksgiving.

If I do not 'talk' with you again before Thursday, Chickenbutt, I hope you and yours have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

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goldensrbest — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 19:45:00 GMT

Russia does push as much as they can,putin is known for that,he really has me concerned.

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DoneTryin — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 19:46:56 GMT

@Mama Mia wrote:
@chickenbutt wrote:
I know this is totally NOT funny and I'll leave after this - but sometimes I'm such an idiot anymore that when I read this headline on my home page this morning I immediately thought 'a turkey? really?'. I'm not just making up a joke - this is where my head went. *sigh*

Back to your regularly scheduled program...

Me too, just the way my chemo brain operates. LOl

mm

Yeah, I thought the same way & thought it was some kind of turkey-day cartoon or something like that.

Re: Turkey shoots down Russian plane

Puzzle Piece — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 20:07:01 GMT

Well, Russia will want their pilots back. There's rumour that they were being shot at as they parachuted down. That is considered unacceptable by all military standards/rules. I do hope they survived and are being negotiated for by their country. Could be a scary thing for Turkey.

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gardenman — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 20:23:43 GMT

My understanding of the situation is that the plane was mostly flying over Syria but had deviated into Turkish airspace. It was then fired upon by Turkey before crashing in the rebel held territory in Syria. The pilots ejected and were reportedly shot by the anti-Syrian rebels in Syria. A rescue helicopter sent by the Russians was then reported downed by the same rebels using anti-tank rockets that we'd supplied them.

Russia's responded by sending a guided missile frigate/destroyer with anti-aircraft missiles to the area. That frigate/destroyer has some very capable weapons on it that pose a threat to all aircraft in the region.

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foundinlv — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 20:35:00 GMT

Killing pilots on the way down from a burning aircraft is an old nazi trick. The nazis did this repeatedly to U.S. airmen.

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sidsmom — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 21:29:34 GMT

@IamMrsG wrote:
@chickenbutt wrote:
I know this is totally NOT funny and I'll leave after this - but sometimes I'm such an idiot anymore that when I read this headline on my home page this morning I immediately thought 'a turkey? really?'. I'm not just making up a joke - this is where my head went. *sigh*

Back to your regularly scheduled program....

I acknowledge this may not be the appropriate time for levity, but, then again, in these trying times, it may be the perfect time.

@chickenbutt Oh my goodness, did you ever create a flashback memory for me. I had to share this You Tube video, WKRP "As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly" Thanksgiving.

If I do not 'talk' with you again before Thursday, Chickenbutt, I hope you and yours have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

Well Color Me Gobble!!

I thought the exact same thing...A Turkey.

And yes, I loved WKRP turkey episode.

. 🦃🦃🦃

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SANNA — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 21:51:16 GMT

my opinion that we got the Turks the green light to do it. Putin has gotten too much attention on our books being a real hero in the region . So we had applied "divide and conquer " principle. Of course Putin is smart and civil enough not to start a war with NATO . Besides Russians fought the fight in that particular corner near the border. That Latakia region has 5+ different terror groups ,some of which are from former USSR, that was the goal today that e need badly.

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Mominohio — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 21:52:57 GMT

@Lila Belle wrote:
We have verified that they were in Turkish air space 2-3 seconds. How could 10 warnings be given and then the pilots fired at ?

Don't know for sure, but maybe those communications start when a plane gets within a certain range of another's air space?

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esmeraldagooch — Tue, 24 Nov 2015 22:00:36 GMT

@gardenman wrote:
My understanding of the situation is that the plane was mostly flying over Syria but had deviated into Turkish airspace. It was then fired upon by Turkey before crashing in the rebel held territory in Syria. The pilots ejected and were reportedly shot by the anti-Syrian rebels in Syria. A rescue helicopter sent by the Russians was then reported downed by the same rebels using anti-tank rockets that we'd supplied them.

Russia's responded by sending a guided missile frigate/destroyer with anti-aircraft missiles to the area. That frigate/destroyer has some very capable weapons on it that pose a threat to all aircraft in the region.

Little nugget from RT.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-24/russia-escalates-suspends-military-cooperation-turkey-moves-warship-coast-destroy-an