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Where are they kept

goldensrbest — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:05:00 GMT

Where are refugees kept,while the vetting process goes on?

Re: Where are they kept

Annabellethecat66 — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:09:44 GMT

@goldensrbest That's an interesting question since supposedly it takes approximately 2 years to clear them.

So many questions and no one offers up any answers. But we're just the slow-minded public, we're not supposed to worry ourselves with these questions and/or answers.

Re: Where are they kept

DoneTryin — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:11:31 GMT

They stay where they are. People usually want to return home & since the refugee process takes so long, they often can go home after a period of time. It just depends on what's going on in their country that forced them out in the first place.

Re: Where are they kept

onewhiteSparrow — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:15:39 GMT

Some are paid by tax payers to the C. church. People in that church lets them live with them.

Also over 50 million has already been located in different States.

Re: Where are they kept

JustJazzmom — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:16:30 GMT

@Annabellethecat66

I googled Where are Syrian Refugees Kept During the Vetting Process?

And to think it took a straight talking humorist to inform the public: From this link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os57v_OCEYg

Then Oliver walked the ill-informed GOP through America’s very stringent vetting process for Syrian refugees.

“If you’re a refugee, first, you apply through the United Nations High Commission of Refugees, which collects documents and performs interviews. Incidentally, less than one percent of refugees worldwide end up being recommended for resettlement, but if you’re one of them, you may then be referred to the State Department to begin the vetting process,” said Oliver. “At this point, more information is collected, and you’ll be put through security screenings by the National Counterterrorism Center, the FBI, and the Department of Homeland Security, and if you’re a Syrian refugee, you’ll get an additional layer of screening called the Syria Enhanced Review, which may include a further check by a special part of Homeland Security—the USCIS [United States Citizenship and Immigration Services] fraud detection and national security directorate.

“And don’t relax yet, because we’ve barely even started.”

He continued: “Then, you finally get an interview with USCIS officers and you’ll also be fingerprinted so your prints can be run through the biometric databases of the FBI, Department of Homeland Security, and the Department of Defense. And, if you make it through all that, you’ll also have health screenings which, let’s face it, may not go too well for you because you may have given yourself a stroke going through this process so far. But, if everything comes back clear, you’ll be enrolled in cultural orientation classes—all while your information continues to be checked recurrently against terrorist databases to make sure that no new information comes in that wasn’t caught before.

“All of that has to happen before you get near a plane!” Oliver continued. “This process typically takes 18 to 24 months once you’ve been referred to the UN by the United States. This is the most rigorous vetting anyone has to face before entering this country. No terrorist in their right mind would choose this path when the visa process requires far less effort.”

Of course, as Oliver noted, there is no possible way to promise whether someone dangerous might “slip through” the incredibly thin cracks, but this risk is “wildly inflated.”

The satirist then brought up statistics from the Migration Policy Institute saying that of the 784,000 resettled refugees since Sept. 11, 2001, only three resettled refugees have been arrested for planning terrorist activities—“none of which, by the way, resulted in attacks here.”

So the terrorist-to-decent ratio is 1:261,000.

“As reasonable adults, we accept tiny amounts of risk baked into our everyday lives,” said Oliver. “We drive cars despite knowing around 30,000 of us die in them each year. We go swimming despite the fact 10 people a day die from drowning. Twenty Americans every year are killed by cows, but no one is saying we should expel all cows from the country!

“Any rational person knows you cannot completely eliminate risk—you can only manage it, and we do it with peanuts, and cars, and swimming, and hamburgers, and men named Mike because we rightly think that they’re worth the risk. And I would argue that, for the tremendous good we could do and the low level of risk involved, refugees are worth it, too.”

Re: Where are they kept

goldensrbest — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:16:48 GMT

So , what ever country they entered,they stay there? They do not come to usa?

Re: Where are they kept

JustJazzmom — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:19:32 GMT

@goldensrbest wrote:
So , what ever country they entered,they stay there? They do not come to usa?

Yes, they stay overseas! You can all relax now.

Re: Where are they kept

onewhiteSparrow — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:21:08 GMT

The FBI and NSA has stated they can't really check who is who. There are no records. We have to take their word for what ever they say or who they want to be.

This is a blind action. We have no idea where they lived before.

We might as make this planet a New World Order and have no countries or borders.....nothing. Just people roaming around any where they want and no way to prove who is who and what they plan on doing in the future.

Re: Where are they kept

JustJazzmom — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:22:01 GMT

@onewhiteSparrow

source please.

Re: Where are they kept

DoneTryin — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:22:24 GMT

@goldensrbest wrote:
So , what ever country they entered,they stay there? They do not come to usa?

Refugees stay wherever they are, & they do not necessarily get to go to whatever country they choose. It's about a 2-year process & things can change in that amount of time that would allow them to go home.

Whoever said 50 million already here is really confused.

Re: Where are they kept

goldensrbest — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:22:41 GMT

I just wondered if they are not allowed in to the usa, then the vetting process takes a long time, where they are ,while waiting. So if the vetting process is very tough, some are not allowed to come into usa, then what happens?

Re: Where are they kept

onewhiteSparrow — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:23:01 GMT

They have been here in the USA for years. Unknown to us.

We are paying to keep them in the USA.

Follow the money. People are making money off of this.

Re: Where are they kept

JustJazzmom — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:25:04 GMT

Without posting a source, I cannot believe what you are saying. Show me the facts and I may change my mind.

Re: Where are they kept

sidsmom — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:25:39 GMT

Quick Google search usually yields the best result.

NPR.org

1. Refugees are screened by several different agencies.

Their first point of a refugee's contact is with the U.N. High Commission for Refugees. The UNHCR refers people to countries based on whether they have any family members there and where resettlement makes the most sense, say U.S. officials. If that's the U.S., then refugees are vetted by the National Counterterrorism Center, the FBI's Terrorist Screening Center, and the Departments of State, Defense and Homeland Security. Fingerprints are taken, biographical information is collected. They are then each individually interviewed by U.S. officials trained to verify that they're bona fide refugees.

Refugees from Syria are then subject to additional screening that looks at where they came from and what caused them to flee their home, stories that are checked out. All of this occurs before a refugee is allowed to set foot in the country.

2. It's a lengthy process.

As you might imagine, all of the vetting, from interviews to fingerprinting, takes a while. On average, officials say it's 18 to 24 months before a refugee is approved for admission to the U.S.

The U.S. has admitted some 1,800 Syrian refugees in the past two years, and President Obama wants to allow 10,000 more. The administration says half of those who have been admitted are children and about a quarter of them are adults over 60. Officials say 2 percent are single males of combat age.

3. Physical resettlement.

There are nine different nonprofit groups, six of them faith-based, that help refugees settle in the U.S. Volunteers with the groups help refugees find homes, furniture, school supplies and jobs.

4. Objections of governors and members of Congress.

Some officials, including FBI Director James Comey, worry there are what Comey has called "gaps" in the vetting process. Experts say U.S. intelligence in Syria isn't very good, because the U.S. lacks much of a presence on the ground. So there's no way to compile a thorough watch list of possible terrorists from Syria against which refugees can be checked. Administration officials are briefing governors and members of Congress about the process, but lawmakers may try to pass legislation calling on the administration to suspend its refugee resettlement efforts.

Re: Where are they kept

DoneTryin — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:26:17 GMT

@goldensrbest wrote:
I just wondered if they are not allowed in to the usa, then the vetting process takes a long time, where they are ,while waiting. So if the vetting process is very tough, some are not allowed to come into usa, then what happens?

They may or may not be allowed into some other country, or maybe have to stay where they are, or go home. I don't think I'd be worrying about that too much right now.

Another poster is really, truly confused about the whole thing. Paranoid.

Re: Where are they kept

onewhiteSparrow — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:27:15 GMT

@sidsmom wrote:
Quick Google search usually yields the best result.
NPR.org

1. Refugees are screened by several different agencies.

Their first point of a refugee's contact is with the U.N. High Commission for Refugees. The UNHCR refers people to countries based on whether they have any family members there and where resettlement makes the most sense, say U.S. officials. If that's the U.S., then refugees are vetted by the National Counterterrorism Center, the FBI's Terrorist Screening Center, and the Departments of State, Defense and Homeland Security. Fingerprints are taken, biographical information is collected. They are then each individually interviewed by U.S. officials trained to verify that they're bona fide refugees.

Refugees from Syria are then subject to additional screening that looks at where they came from and what caused them to flee their home, stories that are checked out. All of this occurs before a refugee is allowed to set foot in the country.

2. It's a lengthy process.

As you might imagine, all of the vetting, from interviews to fingerprinting, takes a while. On average, officials say it's 18 to 24 months before a refugee is approved for admission to the U.S.

The U.S. has admitted some 1,800 Syrian refugees in the past two years, and President Obama wants to allow 10,000 more. The administration says half of those who have been admitted are children and about a quarter of them are adults over 60. Officials say 2 percent are single males of combat age.

3. Physical resettlement.

There are nine different nonprofit groups, six of them faith-based, that help refugees settle in the U.S. Volunteers with the groups help refugees find homes, furniture, school supplies and jobs.

4. Objections of governors and members of Congress.

Some officials, including FBI Director James Comey, worry there are what Comey has called "gaps" in the vetting process. Experts say U.S. intelligence in Syria isn't very good, because the U.S. lacks much of a presence on the ground. So there's no way to compile a thorough watch list of possible terrorists from Syria against which refugees can be checked. Administration officials are briefing governors and members of Congress about the process, but lawmakers may try to pass legislation calling on the administration to suspend its refugee resettlement efforts.

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Thanks.

Re: Where are they kept

onewhiteSparrow — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:28:59 GMT

Follow the money. Groups are making millions and millions off of this.

Re: Where are they kept

goldensrbest — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:29:43 GMT

This is the problem, people say different things, i just want facts.

Re: Where are they kept

deepwaterdotter — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:30:22 GMT

@onewhiteSparrow wrote:
Follow the money. Groups are making millions and millions off of this.

Capitalism?

Re: Where are they kept

Susan-QVC — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:30:32 GMT

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