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FINALLY!!

LilacTree — Tue, 22 Sep 2015 18:52:25 GMT

Big Pharma is going to be under the klieg lights for their criminal behavior regarding drugs and their unconscionable actions over the years, including deliberately not researching cures, but consistently promoting and marketing "treatments" that do nothing but put sick people in danger of often lethal side effects, while lining their already bloated pockets. Hopefully we will begin to see the end of every other commercial we see being drugs pushed by these greedy pharmaceutical cabals.

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Nightowlz — Tue, 22 Sep 2015 19:13:00 GMT

I won't hold my breath. I believe they already know a cure for different cancers but won't manufacture because there is more money the other route. They should not be allowed to have ads on TV.

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ChynnaBlue — Tue, 22 Sep 2015 19:21:07 GMT

I really HOPE so. I honestly thought nothing was going to stop them after they determined that Sovaldi and Harvoni would cure Hep C but a course of treatment would cost upwards of $84,000 (Sovaldi) or $100,000 (Harvoni ). (Source: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-agenda-specialty-drugs-20150921-story.html)

I've been using Advair 500/50 for nearly 20 years now and it's still $300 per discus. The maker fought for years and actually got the drug patent rules changed to extend their patent, but eventually it was eligible to become a generic 2010. But it STILL isn't available as a generic because the patent on the diskus delivery system is in place until 2016. Thankfully, my insurance covers it and I don't pay anywhere near $300 per diskus, but that's a part of the problem. Prices are artificially inflated so that the percentage paid by the insurance companies still makes the drug companies a profit. Which leaves people with poor or no insurance in dire straits when they can't afford the medication they need to keep them alive. Advair keeps me breathing. If I have to pay $300 a month for it, the drug company's $20 off coupon is more slap in the face than it is an actual help.

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PINKdogWOOD — Tue, 22 Sep 2015 19:27:08 GMT

When did it supposedly become okay to advertise DRUGS on television. Nothing like promoting illnesses and diseases to talk the human public right into HAVING these problems just to seek out a doctor who we can apparently talk right into writing out scripts for these drugs. What a racket these pharmceutical companies have with many of our MDs. We many of us seem to buy right into these tv ads. We're popping pills just because every little ache & pain we think we have just because we see these ads on tv. And then jack up the price 200% to share the joy of $$$$$$$$$$$$$

between the pharms & the drs.

What a disgusting way to play the public. I thought the doctors were supposed to be on our side.

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Melania — Tue, 22 Sep 2015 19:29:46 GMT

I am skepitcal. When the pockets of certain ones are lined by them it will remain as it is.

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Winkk — Tue, 22 Sep 2015 19:31:54 GMT

Let's wait and see the results. Big pharma is just that and they always get what they want even with government looking over their shoulder. They don't care about cures, healthy people don't make them money.

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Karnerblue — Tue, 22 Sep 2015 19:33:58 GMT

@Nightowlz wrote:
I won't hold my breath. I believe they already know a cure for different cancers but won't manufacture because there is more money the other route. They should not be allowed to have ads on TV.

Exactly!!! I also will not contribute to any organization when they come calling for $.

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SoX — Tue, 22 Sep 2015 19:44:27 GMT

@ChynnaBlue wrote:
I really HOPE so. I honestly thought nothing was going to stop them after they determined that Sovaldi and Harvoni would cure Hep C but a course of treatment would cost upwards of $84,000 (Sovaldi) or $100,000 (Harvoni ). (Source: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-agenda-specialty-drugs-20150921-story.html)

I've been using Advair 500/50 for nearly 20 years now and it's still $300 per discus. The maker fought for years and actually got the drug patent rules changed to extend their patent, but eventually it was eligible to become a generic 2010. But it STILL isn't available as a generic because the patent on the diskus delivery system is in place until 2016. Thankfully, my insurance covers it and I don't pay anywhere near $300 per diskus, but that's a part of the problem. Prices are artificially inflated so that the percentage paid by the insurance companies still makes the drug companies a profit. Which leaves people with poor or no insurance in dire straits when they can't afford the medication they need to keep them alive. Advair keeps me breathing. If I have to pay $300 a month for it, the drug company's $20 off coupon is more slap in the face than it is an actual help.

@ChynnaBlue

I hear you! I use Advair 250/50 and my cost is a total of $50 for a three-month supply (3 diskus) through my insurance coverage. Without insurance they would cost $750 for the same three months.

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ChynnaBlue — Tue, 22 Sep 2015 19:47:22 GMT

@PINKdogWOOD wrote:
When did it supposedly become okay to advertise DRUGS on television. Nothing like promoting illnesses and diseases to talk the human public right into HAVING these problems just to seek out a doctor who we can apparently talk right into writing out scripts for these drugs. What a racket these pharmceutical companies have with many of our MDs. We many of us seem to buy right into these tv ads. We're popping pills just because every little ache & pain we think we have just because we see these ads on tv. And then jack up the price 200% to share the joy of $$$$$$$$$$$$$
between the pharms & the drs.

What a disgusting way to play the public. I thought the doctors were supposed to be on our side.

In 1997. (Source: http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/94/5/329.long)

Several bills have been written to try to stop the practice since then, but none of them got very far.

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LilacTree — Tue, 22 Sep 2015 19:49:00 GMT

Google "pharmaceutical companies under fire" for many articles.

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Winkk — Tue, 22 Sep 2015 20:59:49 GMT

@ChynnaBlue wrote:
@PINKdogWOOD wrote:
When did it supposedly become okay to advertise DRUGS on television. Nothing like promoting illnesses and diseases to talk the human public right into HAVING these problems just to seek out a doctor who we can apparently talk right into writing out scripts for these drugs. What a racket these pharmceutical companies have with many of our MDs. We many of us seem to buy right into these tv ads. We're popping pills just because every little ache & pain we think we have just because we see these ads on tv. And then jack up the price 200% to share the joy of $$$$$$$$$$$$$
between the pharms & the drs.

What a disgusting way to play the public. I thought the doctors were supposed to be on our side.

In 1997. (Source: http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/94/5/329.long)

Several bills have been written to try to stop the practice since then, but none of them got very far.

And they won't get very far because big RX companies are big political contributors.

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KYToby — Tue, 22 Sep 2015 21:43:07 GMT

@Nightowlz wrote:
I won't hold my breath. I believe they already know a cure for different cancers but won't manufacture because there is more money the other route. They should not be allowed to have ads on TV.

You actually believe researchers and pharmaceutical companies are sitting o the cures to various cancers but are sitting on it to make profits? They do this while their friends, family, and colleagues suffer with and die from cancer -- like the rest of us.

I think this says a lot more about your ethics than those of the pharmaceutical companies.

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deepwaterdotter — Tue, 22 Sep 2015 22:01:35 GMT

@Winkk wrote:
@ChynnaBlue wrote:
@PINKdogWOOD wrote:
When did it supposedly become okay to advertise DRUGS on television. Nothing like promoting illnesses and diseases to talk the human public right into HAVING these problems just to seek out a doctor who we can apparently talk right into writing out scripts for these drugs. What a racket these pharmceutical companies have with many of our MDs. We many of us seem to buy right into these tv ads. We're popping pills just because every little ache & pain we think we have just because we see these ads on tv. And then jack up the price 200% to share the joy of $$$$$$$$$$$$$
between the pharms & the drs.

What a disgusting way to play the public. I thought the doctors were supposed to be on our side.

In 1997. (Source: http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/94/5/329.long)

Several bills have been written to try to stop the practice since then, but none of them got very far.

And they won't get very far because big RX companies are big political contributors.

Bingo!

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Constance2 — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:56:22 GMT

I agree with all you said. I also miss the days when we could read a magazine and not see them filled with pharmaceutical ads. With all the warnings that take up two pages themselves, I'm surprised anyone would even want to take the drugs being promoted! The side effects are worse than the disease itself, it seems!

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NanaLinda — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:43:43 GMT

Beauty2B, my thoughts exactly!

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maestra — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 16:01:17 GMT

Physicians are on 'our side'-ins. co's. try to tell them how to practice medicine. I spent 3 hours last Friday w/ins. co. b/c they held up my cancer treatment for almost 2 weeks, citing that a test used to drive therapy was 'rare'. Horse feathers! The oncotype test is expensive, but just saved said ins. co. about 50K b/c I dont need to have chemo! That is what the oncotype is about.

My medical oncologist has some colorful adjectives for insurance companies. He wrote them in my chart, which had my PCP in stitches.

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Nightowlz — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 16:03:09 GMT

@KYToby wrote:
@Nightowlz wrote:
I won't hold my breath. I believe they already know a cure for different cancers but won't manufacture because there is more money the other route. They should not be allowed to have ads on TV.
You actually believe researchers and pharmaceutical companies are sitting o the cures to various cancers but are sitting on it to make profits? They do this while their friends, family, and colleagues suffer with and die from cancer -- like the rest of us.

I think this says a lot more about your ethics than those of the pharmaceutical companies.

Yes I believe they have cures. No they are not sitting on it to make profits. Profits are from selling all their drugs. If they cured everyone it would put them out of business. How do you know their close friends, family & colleagues suffer??? You believe what you want & I will believe what I want.

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Lipstickdiva — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 16:10:44 GMT

@KYToby wrote:
@Nightowlz wrote:
I won't hold my breath. I believe they already know a cure for different cancers but won't manufacture because there is more money the other route. They should not be allowed to have ads on TV.
You actually believe researchers and pharmaceutical companies are sitting o the cures to various cancers but are sitting on it to make profits? They do this while their friends, family, and colleagues suffer with and die from cancer -- like the rest of us.

I think this says a lot more about your ethics than those of the pharmaceutical companies.

I believe Nightowlz posts and my ethics are just fine.

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silkyk — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 16:29:15 GMT

@Beauty2B wrote:
I agree with all you said. I also miss the days when we could read a magazine and not see them filled with pharmaceutical ads. With all the warnings that take up two pages themselves, I'm surprised anyone would even want to take the drugs being promoted! The side effects are worse than the disease itself, it seems!

I always laugh when one of the side effects of these "miracle" drugs is the actual disease you are taking the darn pill for! Talk about covering their booties! Just making more consumers for their poison pills. The war on drugs???? Drugs won. (and so did the big pharms that make'em)

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LilacTree — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 17:17:48 GMT

@Lipstickdiva wrote:
@KYToby wrote:
@Nightowlz wrote:
I won't hold my breath. I believe they already know a cure for different cancers but won't manufacture because there is more money the other route. They should not be allowed to have ads on TV.
You actually believe researchers and pharmaceutical companies are sitting o the cures to various cancers but are sitting on it to make profits? They do this while their friends, family, and colleagues suffer with and die from cancer -- like the rest of us.

I think this says a lot more about your ethics than those of the pharmaceutical companies.
I believe Nightowlz posts and my ethics are just fine.

I also agree. Big Pharma is one of the biggest "legal" cons in this country. They are running out of stupid names to call the stuff. Congress has to put a stop to this!!

Haven't you read about the former hedge fund guy who bought the rights to a very old drug that cost practically nothing and then immediately raised the price 5000% the next day, supposedly to "improve" the drug? And it has been found out he has absolutely no experience in doing this. It's been all over the news.