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Another thing wrong, thanks to adults & their issues

feline groovy — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 22:49:02 GMT

Near the top of Bullsh*t Mountain...

(themarysue.com 8/26/15)

Little Girl’s Wonder Woman Lunchbox Deemed “Too Violent” for School

You know what’s hilarious? When people who clearly have no experience with superhero lore make up rules about superhero stuff.

An imgur use posted a photo of a letter her friend’s daughter brought home from school:

The photo at the top of this post is the front of the offending lunchbox. And here is the back:

What concerns me more than a little girl being deprived of the chance to pay homage to a worthy fictional role model is the idea that “violent images,” “violent characters,” and “superheroes” are all conflated without context.

I understand not wanting to have violent images in a school around children. And if the offending lunchbox had Wonder Woman in a fight (or if other superhero lunchboxes actually featured, say, Iron Man shooting someone with his repulsor blasts, or Superman punching someone), this would make a whole lot more sense.

But this lunchbox has a picture of Wonder Woman’s face on one side, and on the other a full-body picture of her flying while extolling her beauty and wisdom.

Two very non-violent qualities. What’s more, she’s holding her Lasso of Truth, which she never uses as a weapon.

However, even more nonsensical is their blanket ban on “violent characters” who “solve problems using violence,” when anyone who’s ever actually picked up a comic book knows that most superheroes

1) turn to violence as a last resort, and usually in self-defense, or when the lives of others are in danger,

2) don’t want to kill anyone, and

3) often have other skills that make them so “super” and are worth looking up to (Batman’s power of deduction, Superman’s belief in humanity, Wonder Woman’s love of peace).

It’s sad to me that, whenever children are concerned, rather than actually engaging with the material – or with the children themselves – when determining what’s best for them or not, adults in positions of power too often take the easy way out, creating blanket bans rather than respecting children enough to deal in ideas and provide them with context.

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Puzzle Piece — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 22:51:41 GMT

What a bunch of krap.

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DoneTryin — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 23:14:00 GMT

Oh, for cryin' out loud. Or is that too violent, too?

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SHIRAZ — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 23:19:39 GMT

Ridiculous! I am against violent images as much as anyone, but this just proves that those tasked with upholding such rules have no idea what constitutes a violent image.

This reminds me very much of a story on the local news yesterday. A girl was sent home for violating the dress code. She was showing her collar bone!

It makes me very glad that I do not have children and do not personally have to deal with these idiots and their rules.

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jubilant — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 23:24:08 GMT

There goes Mighty Mouse and Popeye The Sailor Man!

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Anniecamp — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 23:25:08 GMT

That's just ridiculous. However, regarding WW, I always wondered why, in the day and age of trying to teach females that they are more than their bodies, not s*x objects, and so on, why did they make WW to look like what is 98% impossible for most girls? Why does she have to look like she has implants?

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dex — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 23:27:57 GMT

We are all so busy being confused about our lives because there are just too many special interest groups to satisfy.What a mess!

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Preds — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 23:35:47 GMT

Can't carry that, but let's play current music in our schools. Let's take down all our history and ban books. Let's all dance to a new tune and live with it. To heck with the past. It's all about the future ... which looks very sad in my eyes and I'm not that old. Where is the respect for our "generation"? I can respect the '40's, '50's, 60's, '70's and everything now, but it's getting out of hand. JMO, but it's overboard people! Stop the madness!

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guatmum — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 23:41:16 GMT

Um, things make the news and other media because they are UNusual, not usual.

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sailor_moon — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 00:38:41 GMT

@jubilant wrote:
There goes Mighty Mouse and Popeye The Sailor Man!

Here I come to save the day because I'm strong to the finich 'cause I eats me spinach.

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feline groovy — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 00:40:40 GMT

@Preds wrote:
Can't carry that, but let's play current music in our schools. Let's take down all our history and ban books. Let's all dance to a new tune and live with it. To heck with the past. It's all about the future ... which looks very sad in my eyes and I'm not that old. Where is the respect for our "generation"? I can respect the '40's, '50's, 60's, '70's and everything now, but it's getting out of hand. JMO, but it's overboard people! Stop the madness!

Agree, Preds.
(kisses to Buster, BTW)

Especially when banning positive images/things that empower girls!

Actually, children in general.

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feline groovy — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 00:47:41 GMT

@Anniecamp wrote:
That's just ridiculous. However, regarding WW, I always wondered why, in the day and age of trying to teach females that they are more than their bodies, not s*x objects, and so on, why did they make WW to look like what is 98% impossible for most girls? Why does she have to look like she has implants?

I think that most of us - including myself, whose boobies are still an AA/A! lol - didn't think about or dwell on that issue.

But girls and women have always been held to unrealistic standards.

Usually since hetero males are making the decisions.

And it unfortunately gets worse each year, as human beings become even more superficial and judgy.

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KailaS — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 00:46:07 GMT

Jubilant mentioned Mighty Mouse. I actually thought about him too when I read the opening post. Interestingly, as we try to control more and more, our society has become even more violent. Thank goodness I grew up in a different time!

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DoneTryin — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 00:47:20 GMT

@Anniecamp wrote:
That's just ridiculous. However, regarding WW, I always wondered why, in the day and age of trying to teach females that they are more than their bodies, not s*x objects, and so on, why did they make WW to look like what is 98% impossible for most girls? Why does she have to look like she has implants?

Because she's drawn by men?

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Shorty2U — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 05:40:24 GMT

That's ridiculous! People are offended by everything now days. There is nothing wrong with that lunchbox IMO!

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Big Sister — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 08:36:33 GMT

Don't you wonder how we made it to adulthood. I'm so tired of having to be politically correct. I hope there will be a backlash eventually.

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jubilant — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 11:01:37 GMT

A lot of these "characters", if not all, back in the 50's and 60's also stood for good winning over evil. When I stop to think about how I saw it as a kid, that's all I can come up with. That.... and my lunch box meant.... lunch! I chose the red plaid for my accessory....LOL!

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Mactective — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:02:29 GMT

Makes me think about the first few opening scenes of "The Giver" where everyone is dressed alike and talks alike. I don't condone or support violence of any kind. But how in the world do they think eliminating super hero lunchboxes is going to help anything when kids are exposed to violence all day long - at home and at school - and we do nothing to equip them with the tools they need to deal with it. Because if we did, we'd actually have to talk about the violence which is also taboo.

Poor kids. If they don't have well equiped parents, how are they suppose to learn how to deal with the world? I learned some incredible life lessons from some wonderful teachers.

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Laura14 — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:11:43 GMT

It's a good thing I don't have kids because I would just dress my daughter in a WW costume and have her re-enact the same poses. I would then buy a create your own lunchbox on Zazzle and upload the pics onto it. I would then send her back to school with the new lunch box and wait for their next letter.

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Annabellethecat66 — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:15:46 GMT

We've done this to ourselves. Everyone who quacks right along with this politically correct junk.

People get their feelings hurt. That's a fact whether it's sad or not.

This is just a prime example for political correctness going crazy.

Sit down, strap in people because this is just the beginning, unfortunately.

My guess is that it's going to get a lot worse. We are now in a society where the minority speaks for the majority.

I'm hoping the SILENT MAJORITY will wake up. It's getting scary out here when a little kid can't carrry this lunch box!

Instead of saying, "It's crazy", call your Senators and Congressmen and tell them you think it's stupid. If enough people call and make waves things can change.

I live in a town when they listen to the people who live there. We have some major issues that surround our little town (city within the town) but we are a group of people who make change happen.

You'd be surprised at how far your voice will carry if you just speak out to the right people.