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Project Runway 8/20

muttmom — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:36:46 GMT

You just knew some of those teams were going to be a hot mess.

I cannot believe I'm saying this, but I felt sorry for Merline. That dress was so ill-fitting.

The swimsuit ensemble was downright ugly. Tim suggested the swimsuit and Nina asked why a swimsuit?

Funny how the week after their victory, the first 2 challenge winners made hideous garments.

Re: Project Runway 8/20

occasionalrain — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:46:06 GMT

Tim suggested a sunsuit not a swimsuit. I Didn't like the winner's cape, but then I'm not a fan of capes. I would have given the win to the India team.

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muttmom — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:57:27 GMT

Tim did suggest the swimsuit. Edmond wanted a swimsuit but Hanmaio did not. She mentioned the fabric had no stretch. When Tim suggested one, Edmond had a "told you so" look on his face.

This is from Nick Verreos' blog

"But, oh Edmond and Hanmaio. The directive was to make a day-to-night look that could work while touring the streets of a Caribbean island and then transitioning to the Captain’s Dinner back on the ship. This outfit was none of that. Nina said it was, “HIDEOUS!” and asked, “Why the swimsuit?” I seem to recall that Tim may have had something to do with this when during his check-in. He suggested--or at least reinforced--to Edmond and Hanmaio that they make one. Maybe he assumed it would be a well-designed one as opposed to the non-stretch badly-sewn top and panty bottoms we were forced to stare at on the runway. Nevertheless, Tim's semi-silence on the swimsuit subject was deafening. At least to me."

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CatsyCline — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 16:01:17 GMT

i did not care for the winning team's look. the big loopy drapey thing in back - the scale was off but the backless idea was good. it made no sense and then putting a capelet over it. the pants were highwaters. i would have made a kind of back-pack style tote instaed of the capelet

i liked Swapnil's team look the best

i do think the right designer went home, but Edmund was lucky he had immunity. their outfit was hideous.

Re: Project Runway 8/20

bebe777 — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 16:22:16 GMT

@muttmom wrote:
You just knew some of those teams were going to be a hot mess.

I cannot believe I'm saying this, but I felt sorry for Merline. That dress was so ill-fitting.

The swimsuit ensemble was downright ugly. Tim suggested the swimsuit and Nina asked why a swimsuit?

Funny how the week after their victory, the first 2 challenge winners made hideous garments.

I can believe it, cause I felt sorry for her too. She's sweet... talky, but very sweet. While her partner was a boring bully. I was worried that she might get eliminated if it came out just how much she had let her partner make all the decisions at the expense of her own creative input. -- And that Louis Vuitton guy is just making a bunch of old lady dresses... they age everyone by 10-20 years.

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Re: Project Runway 8/20

bebe777 — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 16:22:52 GMT

@muttmom wrote:
Tim did suggest the swimsuit. Edmond wanted a swimsuit but Hanmaio did not. She mentioned the fabric had no stretch. When Tim suggested one, Edmond had a "told you so" look on his face.

This is from Nick Verreos' blog
"But, oh Edmond and Hanmaio. The directive was to make a day-to-night look that could work while touring the streets of a Caribbean island and then transitioning to the Captain’s Dinner back on the ship. This outfit was none of that. Nina said it was, “HIDEOUS!” and asked, “Why the swimsuit?” I seem to recall that Tim may have had something to do with this when during his check-in. He suggested--or at least reinforced--to Edmond and Hanmaio that they make one. Maybe he assumed it would be a well-designed one as opposed to the non-stretch badly-sewn top and panty bottoms we were forced to stare at on the runway. Nevertheless, Tim's semi-silence on the swimsuit subject was deafening. At least to me."

I've always liked Nick. He seems like a straight shooter without an agenda, so I was pleased at his comment. I kept waiting for Tim to mention that he had encouraged the swimsuit idea.

Form my perspective, I thought that Edmond was really trying to be collaborative but that she kept telling him to "shut up" over an over again.... geez, once would have been more than enough for me.

She wanted to be argumentative, didn't want to listen and wanted to fuss to the limit.

For me the final straw was when she hussled the model into the bathroom (?) and sewed her into that hideous excuse for a swimsuit while Edmond was waiting around with the second (better) swimsuit. She made sure that the model had no chance to try on Edmond's swimsuit... because if it looked better then she had nothing of her own to show on the runway.

I'm so glad she's gone. She was a piece of work.

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bebe777 — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 16:23:13 GMT

@ashleigh dupray wrote:

i did not care for the winning team's look. the big loopy drapey thing in back - the scale was off but the backless idea was good. it made no sense and then putting a capelet over it. the pants were highwaters. i would have made a kind of back-pack style tote instaed of the capelet

i liked Swapnil's team look the best

i do think the right designer went home, but Edmund was lucky he had immunity. their outfit was hideous.

I liket the two top looks, Swapnil's being one of them, but nothing really stood out. I can't even remember what the winning look was!

Swapnil is a sweetheart.

-- bebe -- Project Runway (TV and Movies forum) -- 😀PROJECT RUNWAY Season 14 Thurs 8/6/15 TONIGHT!😊 (Community Chat forum)

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lulu2 — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 16:36:24 GMT

@occasionalrain wrote:
Tim suggested a sunsuit not a swimsuit. I Didn't like the winner's cape, but then I'm not a fan of capes. I would have given the win to the India team.

Tim suggested a swimsuit not a sunsuit. On the PR website there are some interesting comments about Tim and what some perceive as his Machiavellian comments.

Personally I think the Greek Isles jumpsuit by Blake and Kelly should have been in the top 3.

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bebe777 — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 16:48:48 GMT

@lulu2 wrote:
@occasionalrain wrote:
Tim suggested a sunsuit not a swimsuit. I Didn't like the winner's cape, but then I'm not a fan of capes. I would have given the win to the India team.
Tim suggested a swimsuit not a sunsuit. On the PR website there are some interesting comments about Tim and what some perceive as his Machiavellian comments.

Personally I think the Greek Isles jumpsuit by Blake and Kelly should have been in the top 3.

Thank you!!! That's was my winner too. I really liked it.

-- bebe

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Stevie Nix — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:20:20 GMT

To those who think Tim should have spoken up --

We don't know that he didn't. I believe Tim is consulted during the judging and gives his insights to the judges. He may even review some of the behaviour during the designing/sewing and may make his perceptions known. He is there for a reason. We don't necessarily see everything that goes on off camera.

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bebe777 — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:46:58 GMT

@BevG wrote:
To those who think Tim should have spoken up --

We don't know that he didn't. I believe Tim is consulted during the judging and gives his insights to the judges. He may even review some of the behaviour during the designing/sewing and may make his perceptions known. He is there for a reason. We don't necessarily see everything that goes on off camera.

Thats' a good point and I actually considered that possibility. I just seemed to me that anyone editing this material would have included those comments. After all, the editors are the ones who are framing the conversation that nudges us towards certain conclusions.

I've read about reality shows that essentially mislead you to ramp up the intensity, but I've never gotten the feeling that Project Runway follows this model. Sure they heighten the impact of discord, but I don't think that intentional misdirection is part of their tool kit.

And Tim Gunn has a lot of credibility. I can't imagine that he would allow this sort of misdirection of how he conducts himself. -- That said, it still could have been poor editing. And if that's the case I think that someone will catch it from Tim.

And, if I found out that the editors were taking this approach, I'd stop watching in a New York minute.

-- bebe

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Goldengate8361 — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 19:22:29 GMT

I really disliked Hanmaio! I'm Sooooo glad she's gone. Edmond is my favorite. I thought he was more than fair with her.....and I believe he is an excellent designer. I never understood how Hanmaio even made it on the show.

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bebe777 — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 21:00:15 GMT

@Goldengate8361 wrote:
I really disliked Hanmaio! I'm Sooooo glad she's gone. Edmond is my favorite. I thought he was more than fair with her.....and I believe he is an excellent designer. I never understood how Hanmaio even made it on the show.

I think she had some interesting avant garde designs, but she just doesn't play well or strategically with others. -- And when things don't go her way she just goes into meltdown mode. On her own, with more time and less pressure she'd probably be fine, but I think the pressure of this game gets to a number of the contestants.

That said, I'm soooo glad she's gone. She was way out of line for the entire challenge. I also really like Edmond.

-- bebe

Re: Project Runway 8/20

occasionalrain — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 22:33:03 GMT

Who knew women could have a female version of short man syndrome. Edmond should get an award.