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James Holmes guilty....

cody2 — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 22:28:57 GMT

They jury found him sane.

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Puzzle Piece — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 23:04:09 GMT

It makes My day.

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hckynutjohn — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 23:06:45 GMT

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MomOf4 — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 23:20:31 GMT

@hckynutjohn wrote:

James Holmes guilty

Now what?

Hi John

Now I think they have the penalty phase of the trial.

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raven-blackbird — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 23:21:49 GMT

@hckynutjohn wrote:

James Holmes guilty

Now what?

Now he gets to sit in prison for the next 10 to 20 years or forever, while the families of the victims he left behind suffer for the rest of their lives missing their loved ones..............ain't justice grand...........................raven

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hckynutjohn — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 23:27:17 GMT

@raven-blackbird wrote:
@hckynutjohn wrote:

James Holmes guilty

Now what?

Now he gets to sit in prison for the next 10 to 20 years or forever, while the families of the victims he left behind suffer for the rest of their lives missing their loved ones..............ain't justice grand...........................raven

Not sure if I prefer the death penalty of life in prison. Guess it depends on how tough they make him in prison. Did they sentence him already or is that yet to come?

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tansy — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 23:27:26 GMT

Was there any doubt that he had a valid schizophrenia diagnosis? I didn't follow the trial.

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circles — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 23:31:32 GMT

Death Penalty is the easy way out.....people like him need to be in prison for the rest of their lives...so they suffer the indignities of prison life...to think of what they did...to see what its like to never be a free person again....

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gardensla — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 23:38:35 GMT

I figured they'd find him guilty but surpised at "sane."

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foundinlv — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 23:53:39 GMT

When he setup explosives in his apartment in a precise detailed way......was that the work of a madman or someone planning on committing murder. He knew he would be caught for the killings at the theater and that law enforcement would go back to his apartment. Sounds like someone with a logical mind preparing to commit illogical acts.

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fourpaws56 — Fri, 17 Jul 2015 01:05:36 GMT

Why should the tax payers support him in a cage 23 hours a day? Just execute the SOB...

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TexasMom1 — Fri, 17 Jul 2015 01:36:17 GMT

As liberal is the state of Colorado is, I am amazed they allow the Death Penalty. Even if he gets the DP, he will languish in prison for years on appeal.

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Moonchilde — Fri, 17 Jul 2015 01:49:42 GMT

Holmes is so tortured mentally that he would probably be okay with the death penalty. He can't have much quality of life continuously pumped full of appearance-of-sanity drugs for the trial.

Whether I think life without parole is "worse" depends for me on the person. If they previously highly valued freedom and individuality and have never been incarcerated before, I think it might be worse. But for someone like Chas Manson who'd already spent half his life in custody of some sort before the murders, he's probably been happy as a clam in jail.

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NYwoman — Fri, 17 Jul 2015 02:24:51 GMT

Now the same jury must endure a onth ong trial to decide a penalty----life in prison or death. If they decide death, there will be many appeals due to his mental state and SCOTUS' stance on no death penalty for mentally impaired people. He was judged legally sane because he planned the murders. And no evaluator difinitively stated he was insane.

He will stay locked up for the rest of his life, either way it is judged. It is best that he is left in a cell with no more publicity for him. If he is not in solitary, the other inmates will get him.

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foundinlv — Fri, 17 Jul 2015 02:29:46 GMT

I don't think he'll get the death penalty because he told the police how to diffuse the bombs in his apartment preventing more deaths and injury. That means something.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/17/james-holmes-bombs-apartment-aurora-police_n_4116828.html

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Cakers3 — Fri, 17 Jul 2015 02:40:09 GMT

Holmes was taking Sertraline and Clonazepam coupled with alcohol (several empty alcohol containers were found in his apartment).

I don't recall Holmes being treated with any other medication and the diagnosis of schizophrenia may or may not have been accurate.

Somebody can correct me if I am wrong about the diagnosis.

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Drythe — Fri, 17 Jul 2015 02:52:56 GMT

The insanity plea has always seemed like an oxymoron to me. Maybe I'm too logical!

Except in the case of self defense, if you kill someone, aren't you insane? Does a sane person go around killing people? If you kill a bunch of strangers aren't you insane? If you are insane, you still killed people, so you are guilty - right?

It seems we should have an insane but guilty charge.

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foundinlv — Fri, 17 Jul 2015 02:55:07 GMT

He told the police he was having a psychotic episode. But, if true then he must have had a lot of them because it took a lot of preparation to do what he did.

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raven-blackbird — Fri, 17 Jul 2015 03:18:13 GMT

@Drythe wrote:

The insanity plea has always seemed like an oxymoron to me. Maybe I'm too logical!

Except in the case of self defense, if you kill someone, aren't you insane? Does a sane person go around killing people? If you kill a bunch of strangers aren't you insane? If you are insane, you still killed people, so you are guilty - right?

It seems we should have an insane but guilty charge.

not necessarily................we train soldiers to kill, to kill effectively and kill as many enemy as possible..............I wouldn't consider any of them insane...............................................raven

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Drythe — Fri, 17 Jul 2015 03:21:56 GMT

@raven-blackbird wrote:
@Drythe wrote:

The insanity plea has always seemed like an oxymoron to me. Maybe I'm too logical!

Except in the case of self defense, if you kill someone, aren't you insane? Does a sane person go around killing people? If you kill a bunch of strangers aren't you insane? If you are insane, you still killed people, so you are guilty - right?

It seems we should have an insane but guilty charge.
not necessarily................we train soldiers to kill, to kill effectively and kill as many enemy as possible..............I wouldn't consider any of them insane...............................................raven

Raven, I'm sure you get my point. Soldiers kill in defence of their country. I'm speaking of random killing of strangers without provocation on their part.