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I guess my age is showing

cherry — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 13:37:57 GMT

Families, when I was a kid, seemed to be more inclined, to do their civic duty, and be good neighbor , than they are now. They also did it without moaning and whingeing about it

What a nation of spoiled brats we seem to have become

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JeanLouiseFinch — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 13:53:08 GMT

Very true! I remember, in elementary school, being graded for citizenship. Times have surely changed.

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Preds — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 13:40:00 GMT

Amen! And it's because we wanted them to not have it as rough as we did. What were we thinking? LOL

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hckynutjohn — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:15:55 GMT

I saw things changing immensly once self esteem became the top priority for the young ones. 3 in my family were school teachers and every one of them quit and changed professions.

I was a referee in Youth Hockey and a few years after this nonsense about self esteem became more important than the game itself? The kids changed as did their respect for authority in the games.

They were "owed" a trophy win or lose. A few years after this "revilation" took hold, I decided to referee Adult Only hockey games only. Youth Hockey kids and their parents were more than I wanted to deal with in something I previously really enjoyed.

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Perkup — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:08:55 GMT

Yes, I know mine is showing a lot lately! But, if you promise not to tell anyone, I'll tell you that some of our schools still have citienship awards. Not everyone in the class gets an award, but then we are behind the times here.

If you grew up during WWII you would really understand what citizenship and love of country mean. Sadly, those days seem to be gone forever. A bigger loss than many have yet to realize.

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bonnielu — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:23:22 GMT

Can relate easily. Taught school for over 30 years and by the end everyone had to be recognized and rewarded. Even got called down because I denied a kid a field trip... he never did any work, failed, was argumentative, pushed and punched his way around, swore, and even took a swipe at me but HE HAD TO BE ALLOWED TO GO TO A ALTERNATIVE NON REQUIRED TRIP AS A REWARD FOR THOSE WHO HAD DONE THE RIGHT THING BY POINTS.

My older neighbors are respectful, friendly, helpful. The younger ones moving in do as they please noise and all, defying building codes as well, without a care in the world. Now I know why people move into a 55 and up community.

I will add to be fair I have found some people of all ages that are doing the right thing by others. They are just harder to find most days.

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cherry — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:24:30 GMT

There are lots of examples of bad citizenship. the latest being vacinations for children. I wonder how many of the people moaning about it, smoke pot or do drugs? Bring back the draft it would do some people a world of good

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raven-blackbird — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:27:03 GMT

The schools here still give citizenship awards......one student in each class every month gets the award.......my grand daughter got it on three different months during this last school year...........this however, is a very conservative and patriotic community......................................raven

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terrier3 — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:28:00 GMT

@cherry wrote:
Families, when I was a kid, seemed to be more inclined, to do their civic duty, and be good neighbor , than they are now. They also did it without moaning and whingeing about it

What a nation of spoiled brats we seem to have become

It's all about Me! Me! Me!

People want their "liberty"and "freedom" - even when it;s reckless, irresponsible and not based in facts.

We should be a SOCIETY and a COMMUNITY - not a bunch of individuals with no interaction or interest in one another.

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geezerette — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:31:15 GMT

My age has been showing for quite a while now! I have to agree with all the points that all of you have made.

I vowed when I was young that I wouldn't be/talk/act like my parents when I got their age. Well, I've become them! I guess every generation goes through this as they age, but it does seem like so many things in our world have been changing at a much more rapid rate than ever before. I think this is what makes it harder to accept and adapt.

I like to think that I'm pretty open-minded, but I just don't see a lot of common sense out there anymore.

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ChynnaBlue — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:32:25 GMT

@cherry wrote:
There are lots of examples of bad citizenship. the latest being vacinations for children. I wonder how many of the people moaning about it, smoke pot or do drugs? Bring back the draft it would do some people a world of good

What?? This is the most bizarre overreaction I've read in a while.The draft is only active during times of war and people who got drafted often died in combat. There's a balance between coddling and sending people to fight in a war and die against their will.

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Burnsite — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:33:59 GMT

I wonder, cherry.

Any study of history shows that only a few human beings are heroes, and perhaps a small majority are responsible adults. Everyone else (including myself). . . good days and bad days. I don't think it's modern times, but just the pressures and difficulties of life.

Socrates once wondered what the world was coming to, and that was centuries BC.

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cherry — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:34:01 GMT

@ChynnaBlue wrote:
@cherry wrote:
There are lots of examples of bad citizenship. the latest being vacinations for children. I wonder how many of the people moaning about it, smoke pot or do drugs? Bring back the draft it would do some people a world of good

What?? This is the most bizarre overreaction I've read in a while.The draft is only active during times of war and people who got drafted often died in combat. There's a balance between coddling and sending people to fight in a war and die against their will.

Oh no we had a peace time draft. You are just too young to know it.

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momtochloe — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:43:59 GMT

@geezerette wrote:
My age has been showing for quite a while now! I have to agree with all the points that all of you have made.

I vowed when I was young that I wouldn't be/talk/act like my parents when I got their age. Well, I've become them! I guess every generation goes through this as they age, but it does seem like so many things in our world have been changing at a much more rapid rate than ever before. I think this is what makes it harder to accept and adapt.

I like to think that I'm pretty open-minded, but I just don't see a lot of common sense out there anymore.

I so wish you were my neighbor . . . we could have coffee and talk . . . .

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natureluvr — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:46:12 GMT

I may be misunderstanding your comment, but it's not just kids who are spoiled. Too many adults are rude and show no compassion or empathy. Besides, we can't blame the children because it is learned behavior. We are indulgent often to kids and yet stingy when it comes to investing in education, often the first to be cut. I am a retired teacher and make no apologies for wanting a good salary. I didn't expect to be rich. I earned a BS and a MA to do better in life. Isn't that what we teach children to work hard and do well in life to the best of their abilities? I often try to mentor the kids in my complex. We talk about school, current events, respect, being responsible etc. You can take the teacher out of the classroom but you can't take the classroom out of the teacher!

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newziesuzie — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:46:23 GMT

We spoiled our kids to give them things we didn't have
and now we even brag about spoiling our grandkids
and then we wonder why they grow up wanting rights
and privileges without responsibility.

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ChynnaBlue — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:50:40 GMT

@cherry wrote:
@ChynnaBlue wrote:
@cherry wrote:
There are lots of examples of bad citizenship. the latest being vacinations for children. I wonder how many of the people moaning about it, smoke pot or do drugs? Bring back the draft it would do some people a world of good

What?? This is the most bizarre overreaction I've read in a while.The draft is only active during times of war and people who got drafted often died in combat. There's a balance between coddling and sending people to fight in a war and die against their will.

Oh no we had a peace time draft. You are just too young to know it.

And did you get drafted? Or is it easy to say now because you were not then and are not now eligible?

It's always nice to volunteer others when you know you yourself are in no danger of being volunteered, isn't it?

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silkyk — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:51:20 GMT

@terrier3 wrote:
@cherry wrote:
Families, when I was a kid, seemed to be more inclined, to do their civic duty, and be good neighbor , than they are now. They also did it without moaning and whingeing about it

What a nation of spoiled brats we seem to have become
It's all about Me! Me! Me!
People want their "liberty"and "freedom" - even when it;s reckless, irresponsible and not based in facts.
We should be a SOCIETY and a COMMUNITY - not a bunch of individuals with no interaction or interest in one another.

The new hosts on the Q prove this every day....all about ME (phooey on the product info). We had generation X now we have a "selfie" generation. I can't wait for "next!"

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Cakers3 — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:55:04 GMT

@ChynnaBlue wrote:
@cherry wrote:
There are lots of examples of bad citizenship. the latest being vacinations for children. I wonder how many of the people moaning about it, smoke pot or do drugs? Bring back the draft it would do some people a world of good

What?? This is the most bizarre overreaction I've read in a while.The draft is only active during times of war and people who got drafted often died in combat. There's a balance between coddling and sending people to fight in a war and die against their will.

ChynnaBlue: I had to "heart" you for your post. First and foremost - our military isn't a dumping ground. I cringe when I see such statements; I certainly would not have wanted my son to be with others who were forced into service when he was deployed.

I'm also going to respond to the other part of that post - it is not my business to wonder if somebody does drugs or smokes pot just because they are anti-vaxers. I don't want any child exposed to any illness; we have the means to make sure that all children are safe but I'm not going to go off on a tangent and start assuming the worst of other people.

The problem today is that we have an over-abundance of self-interest GROUPS more than individuals. I see plenty of respectful and well mannered young up and coming good citizens; and I see plenty of disrespectful and ill-mannered adults.

I think sometimes people expect others to behave as they behave; often it's the perception more than the reality of others based on one's own bias.

jmoymmv

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raven-blackbird — Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:56:12 GMT

@newziesuzie wrote:

We spoiled our kids to give them things we didn't have
and now we even brag about spoiling our grandkids
and then we wonder why they grow up wanting rights
and privileges without responsibility.

why should they grow up any differently then their parents...............................raven