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Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

kittymomNC — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 14:40:40 GMT

I posted this on another thread in Qtalk, but I decided to put it out here separately. There are so many complaint threads, I thought I would start one with a different "take" on it.

Since many posters here apparently don't want the boards to be so boring and "dead", I'll take the risk of presenting a differing opinion here and see what happens.

So many talk about how the moderators have so adversely affected the boards, how so many posters have chosen to leave, how boring and "vanilla" everything is, no interesting discussions (I interpret some of the comments as wanting "contentious" discussions, not "interesting"), but I noticed one glaring oddity... most of those who are doing all this complaining on all these threads seldom if ever start a thread of their own... they leave it to everyone else. Why not choose a topic you might find interesting, post a comment, and see what happens? If it's at least kept halfway civil, and religion and politics are kept out of it, it might surprise you.

It may be ridiculous to many, but I laughed more yesterday than I have in weeks, over a silly thread that wound up being about VEGETABLES (mostly)and BUGS! There are a lot of posters here who happen to have a great sense of humor -- and many of them used it yesterday. So sometimes it's all in what you make it. Start threads, participate in some you might not normally participate in, shake it up a little, and maybe you won't find it so boring. Don't leave it to everyone else to "entertain" you.

I realize that being derisive and disparaging other posters, moderators, the board format, etc. etc. may be more "interesting" to some, and you may think those who choose to stay will be so "boring" that you wouldn't be able to stand it. But I'm finding that meeting new posters (or ones who have had to change their nics and I don't know who they "were"), seeing the humorous side of things, and yes, actually having some very interesting and somewhat "contentious" discussions has had me here on the boards even more lately.

The first few days of this new board had me ready to leave, for different reasons... I just didn't think I had the energy to learn how to navigate and feel comfortable with it. But I stuck it out, and now it's okay - it has a few kinks, but they seem to be trying to work those out.

If people spent more time here, instead of zipping in and out and then coming back to complain about how boring it is, you might see some of what's actually been going on. Yes, a lot of it has been deleted when it wound up going completely off the rails, but for the most part, I think the moderators have done the best job they can in view of the variety of personalities here.

As I've said before, my opinion is neither right or wrong, it just is what it is....

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

FlowershopGirl — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 14:49:57 GMT

You expressed that so well and very diplomatically.

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

lucymo — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 14:57:10 GMT

@kittymomNC wrote:
I posted this on another thread in Qtalk, but I decided to put it out here separately. There are so many complaint threads, I thought I would start one with a different "take" on it.

Since many posters here apparently don't want the boards to be so boring and "dead", I'll take the risk of presenting a differing opinion here and see what happens.

So many talk about how the moderators have so adversely affected the boards, how so many posters have chosen to leave, how boring and "vanilla" everything is, no interesting discussions (I interpret some of the comments as wanting "contentious" discussions, not "interesting"), but I noticed one glaring oddity... most of those who are doing all this complaining on all these threads seldom if ever start a thread of their own... they leave it to everyone else. Why not choose a topic you might find interesting, post a comment, and see what happens? If it's at least kept halfway civil, and religion and politics are kept out of it, it might surprise you.

It may be ridiculous to many, but I laughed more yesterday than I have in weeks, over a silly thread that wound up being about VEGETABLES (mostly)and BUGS! There are a lot of posters here who happen to have a great sense of humor -- and many of them used it yesterday. So sometimes it's all in what you make it. Start threads, participate in some you might not normally participate in, shake it up a little, and maybe you won't find it so boring. Don't leave it to everyone else to "entertain" you.

I realize that being derisive and disparaging other posters, moderators, the board format, etc. etc. may be more "interesting" to some, and you may think those who choose to stay will be so "boring" that you wouldn't be able to stand it. But I'm finding that meeting new posters (or ones who have had to change their nics and I don't know who they "were"), seeing the humorous side of things, and yes, actually having some very interesting and somewhat "contentious" discussions has had me here on the boards even more lately.

The first few days of this new board had me ready to leave, for different reasons... I just didn't think I had the energy to learn how to navigate and feel comfortable with it. But I stuck it out, and now it's okay - it has a few kinks, but they seem to be trying to work those out.

If people spent more time here, instead of zipping in and out and then coming back to complain about how boring it is, you might see some of what's actually been going on. Yes, a lot of it has been deleted when it wound up going completely off the rails, but for the most part, I think the moderators have done the best job they can in view of the variety of personalities here.

As I've said before, my opinion is neither right or wrong, it just is what it is....

kittymom, very well said. Thank you, hope it will enlighten some folks and they will enjoy being on the forums more.

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

chickenbutt — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 15:29:49 GMT

Hey Kittymom! Yeah, things were frustrating at first and some of us had a bit of a challenge getting with the program.

But it's two and a half weeks later - ENOUGH ALREADY with the whining threads at this point!

I have to bite my tongue to just pass by the many, many threads whining about this or that and just SMH that people take it to such a degree. I just hope people don't ever encounter any REAL challenges in life because I fear that their heads might explode.

For a long time now, there has been at least one weekly thread in the Q Does What forum complaining about every freaking thing that they show on QVC. I mean, at what point does one decide to watch something else for a while? Just like here - If it is so horrid, why keep coming back? Just to complain? Get out of that loop already!

ok, rant over.

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

occasionalrain — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 15:38:17 GMT

Complaining is doing something, so is refusing to buy anything from a company which is so arbitrary in their choice of what to remove and what to allow to stay; a company that treats it's customers as children and insults their intelligence.

Maybe you don't mind spending time starting a thread only to see it removed but I do. What's the point of getting a good discussion started when half way through it's removed?

Last night several posts were removed, all were in accordance with Q guidelines, none contained religion, politics, or name calling. Still they were removed.

Maybe you find silly threads about nonsense entertaining and that's good for you but the thread that made me laugh was removed in less time than it takes to give it a heart.

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

hckynutjohn — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 19:25:59 GMT

kittymomNC wrote:

I posted this on another thread in Qtalk, but I decided to put it out here separately. There are so many complaint threads, I thought I would start one with a different "take" on it.

Since many posters here apparently don't want the boards to be so boring and "dead", I'll take the risk of presenting a differing opinion here and see what happens.

So many talk about how the moderators have so adversely affected the boards, how so many posters have chosen to leave, how boring and "vanilla" everything is, no interesting discussions (I interpret some of the comments as wanting "cntentious" discussions, not "interesting"), but I noticed one glaring oddity... most of those who are doing all this complaining on all these threads seldom if ever start a thread of their own... they leave it to everyone else. Why not choose a topic you might find interesting, post a comment, and see what happens? If it's at least kept halfway civil, and religion and politics are kept out of it, it might surprise you.

As I've said before, my opinion is neither right or wrong, it just is what it is....

I expressed in great detail(who me ?) in another thread

sometime back how i feel about those that complain, but to those that cannot do anything about it. If I complain always try to do it to someone that has the authorithy go do something about it.

While i have never been one to start many threads, I also have never complained about the things you have mentioned in your thread. At the same time if there is something that bothers me, or I think is not right? My method is almost always to pursue solutions regardless how much of my time it takes to do it.

Chronic complainers I tune out, here and in my real world, and believe me I have listened to many in my life time because of my knack of somehow getting myself in leadership positions.

I like your thread.

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

Lila Belle — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 16:31:32 GMT

@occasionalrain wrote:
Complaining is doing something, so is refusing to buy anything from a company which is so arbitrary in their choice of what to remove and what to allow to stay; a company that treats it's customers as children and insults their intelligence.

Maybe you don't mind spending time starting a thread only to see it removed but I do. What's the point of getting a good discussion started when half way through it's removed?

Last night several posts were removed, all were in accordance with Q guidelines, none contained religion, politics, or name calling. Still they were removed.

Maybe you find silly threads about nonsense entertaining and that's good for you but the thread that made me laugh was removed in less time than it takes to give it a heart.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I'll bet that that wasn't the first post or thread you've posted on that was removed and it won't be the last.

Looks like you're putting a new C in QVC.... "complain".

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

Kalli — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 16:40:40 GMT

I guess it's what you make it.

I do miss some conversations that were a little controversial. With the current "hats thrown into the ring", if you know what I mean, I know I'll miss hearing opinions and thoughts of can di dates' positions on topics.

Wish there was a way for folks to post other places where they CAN discuss current events but it seems anyone who posts that, gets their stuff p oo fed.

I'd like to know where others go to discuss that kind of thing.

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

mousiegirl — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 16:45:05 GMT

What is the name of the thread about vegetables and bugs?

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

pitdakota — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 16:48:43 GMT

I did participate on the vegetable thread and I laughed quite a bit. I don't care what anyone says. It was fun.

Love your emoties that you used on that thread as well.

Good advice and good points kittymom!

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

Brittany-QVC — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 16:51:11 GMT

This post has been removed by QVC. Posters arguing.

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

gardensla — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 16:55:26 GMT

Well, you can't be talking to me because I start at least one or two new topic threads a day. That said, I reserve the right to complain about aspects of this forum that don't work well or make no sense and to challenge the Q to do better in terms of programming!

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

kittymomNC — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 17:00:19 GMT

mousiegirl wrote:
What is the name of the thread about vegetables and bugs?

It's called "I feel like saying something hateful", started by colliesgirl! Ironic that a thread with that title turned out to be so much fun!

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

occasionalrain — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 17:15:54 GMT

The thread I started about lecturing has just been removed so it seems my point has been made and is valid. This thread remains while a counter thread, one that is no more contentious than this one, is removed in minutes.

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

Vickiv — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 17:16:32 GMT

kittymom NC...
So true what you said. You are so right. ♥️♥️

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

kittymomNC — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 17:17:04 GMT

@hckynutjohn wrote:

I expressed in great detail(who me ?) in another thread
sometime back how i feel about those that complain, but to those that cannot do anything about it. If I complain always try to do it to someone that has the authorithy go do something about it.

While i have never been one to start many threads, I also have never complained about the things you have mentioned in your thread. At the same time if there is something that bothers me, or I think is not right? My method is almost always to pursue solutions regardless how much of my time it takes to do it. Chronic complainers I tune out, here and in my real world, and believe me I have listened to many in my life time because of my knack of somehow getting myself in leadership positions.

I like your thread.

Hi John, as you know, we disagree on many things, but I've always enjoyed reading your posts. I like the way you just put it out there and let the chips fall where they may!

In this case, my post has been interpreted by some as "scolding" or "complaining about the complainers", but it isn't that at all, and I'm sorry some took it that way. If people want to complain about what QVC sells, or how this board is more difficult, or what they don't like about it and would like to have changed, that's okay with me. I did my share of that when the change first happened. We can't control any of that without voicing our concerns and disappointments... hopefully that's how changes will happen.

But to complain about the boards being so dull and uninteresting and lacking in humor and boring, and not taking any responsibility for that, is a whole other ballgame. It's as though some posters feel that it's the responsibility of everyone else to keep them entertained. I know a lot of people don't like to start threads, and I know why. I often hesitate to start one (and don't do that many), because I've had my head handed to me on a platter more than once, no matter how innocent the subject. But if no one ever started a discussion, there would be no boards! If people stay away, and then just pop in once in a while to see what's going on, they miss the good stuff and then complain that there isn't any "good stuff".

Yes, the moderators have stopped a lot of the political and religious comments, and the pages of arguments between posters, and sometimes maybe they delete something that could have stayed... but I think they have a difficult job and I wouldn't want to have to do it.

If we don't keep these forums interesting for ourselves, then who will?

(And thank you very much for saying you like my thread!)

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

gardensla — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 17:17:14 GMT

@occasionalrain wrote:
The thread I started about lecturing has just been removed so it seems my point has been made and is valid. This thread remains while a counter thread, one that is no more contentious than this one, is removed in minutes.

I was JUST coming here to point out the same thing.

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

kittymomNC — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 17:20:39 GMT

@gardensla wrote:
@occasionalrain wrote:
The thread I started about lecturing has just been removed so it seems my point has been made and is valid. This thread remains while a counter thread, one that is no more contentious than this one, is removed in minutes.

I was JUST coming here to point out the same thing.

I would really like to know what point was made... if you care to elaborate. (ETA: I meant this question to OR)

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

occasionalrain — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 17:24:30 GMT

The Point

Some threads stay while other similar threads are removed depending on who posted them. You have been defending the new BB so your thread stays, I've been critical and mine goes. The same uneven removal exists, the measles thread, which is both political and controversial remains as did the marriage one while the thread posted for those not celebrating the ruling was removed.

Re: Why just keep complaining? DO Something!

gardensla — Wed, 01 Jul 2015 17:26:00 GMT

@kittymomNC wrote:
@gardensla wrote:
@occasionalrain wrote:
The thread I started about lecturing has just been removed so it seems my point has been made and is valid. This thread remains while a counter thread, one that is no more contentious than this one, is removed in minutes.

I was JUST coming here to point out the same thing.
I would really like to know what point was made... if you care to elaborate. (ETA: I meant this question to OR)

The point is not really about your thread in particular but more generally about how QVC let's stand posts and threads wherein posters scold, bully and excorate those who agitate for change here (some call it complaining, others see it differently). Your post is, like all things you write, coming from a kind place. Others have not been so polite.