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Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

newziesuzie — Wed, 17 Jun 2015 22:29:31 GMT

Trying to figure out exactly what the posted "Community Guidelines" under "Welcome Get Started" mean.

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Here's the part:

"Controversial topics will be removed – Discussions of a controversial or confrontational nature will be removed at our discretion. The following are examples of topics that generally create a negative dialogue between Community members which will result in removal of the discussion and possible banning: current events, politics, religious beliefs, and unkind comments about hosts, vendors, models, or employees."

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Does that mean ALL the part after the word "banning:" are violations?

Or does it mean if they turn into "a negative dialogue between Community members" then that will be a violation?

The way they included "current events" I think it's confusing because lots of current events are interesting and not "controversial" "or "confrontational".

Maybe the Social Team can answer but I'm not sure how to get their attention.

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

gardensla — Wed, 17 Jun 2015 22:31:29 GMT

I'd like "unkind" defined while they're at it.

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

NickNack1 — Wed, 17 Jun 2015 22:34:38 GMT

If you post this on the Suggestion Box forum they say they'll get to our questions as soon as possible. I'm interested in the answer, too.

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

newziesuzie — Wed, 17 Jun 2015 22:41:02 GMT

I would as well Gardensla.

Thanks Nicknack I will post this thread there.

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

lulu2 — Wed, 17 Jun 2015 22:43:19 GMT

@gardensla wrote:
I'd like "unkind" defined while they're at it.

I do not know that I'd categorize it as unkind but in a post that was removed, the poster mentioned (without naming names) a physical trait that the CIC has. When I called the poster out on it, (I said I found it offensive) the poster said it was not political rather simply making fun of a person's physical appearance. The poster saw nothing wrong with doing that.

Apparently the QVC found the post (and exchange where I quoted it) against forum guidelines.

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

Burnsite — Wed, 17 Jun 2015 23:14:04 GMT

Newsie,

Your question is: "Does that mean ALL the part after the word "banning:" are violations? Or does it mean if they turn into "a negative dialogue between Community members" then that will be a violation?"

I would think it was the second part--IF a discussion turns negative then it will be deleted. That is not a change from prior forums (fora?).

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

SaRina — Wed, 17 Jun 2015 23:45:43 GMT

If you really examine the verbiage here...

"Controversial topics will be removed – Discussions of a controversial or confrontational nature will be removed at our discretion. The following are examples of topics that generally create a negative dialogue between Community members which will result in removal of the discussion and possible banning: current events, politics, religious beliefs, and unkind comments about hosts, vendors, models, or employees."

...this is how I would interpret it...but I could be wrong. lol

Sentence 1: Ambiguous because the first part states outright that "controversial topics will be removed". However...then it continues to say "will be removed at our discretion" which means to me that you can go ahead and post them but they may be removed. They continue to give "examples" that "generally" create negative dialogue. By using the word "generally" that.. to me.. also does not necessarily exclude such topics from being posted because it's saying that it is possible for such topics to have a civil dialogue (only suggesting that such topics "generally create a negative dialogue between Community members")...

....so that if the dialogue turns negative it will result in removal and possible banning.

Therefore...I would agree with Burnsite.

How's that? Can you tell I'm bored?

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

gardensla — Wed, 17 Jun 2015 23:51:42 GMT

This is such a great example, Lulu2!

"Unkind" to one person might be witty, ascerbic, droll, clever or just a matter of opinion to someone else.

I guess in time we'll get a better temperature reading on the site's monitors.

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

dooBdoo — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 00:05:55 GMT

Burnsite wrote:
Newsie,

Your question is: "Does that mean ALL the part after the word "banning:" are violations? Or does it mean if they turn into "a negative dialogue between Community members" then that will be a violation?"

I would think it was the second part--IF a discussion turns negative then it will be deleted. That is not a change from prior forums (fora?).

I agree with you, @Burnsite. I think it was clumsily written, but I think the meaning is the part I placed in bold text in your post.

In looking at their entire post, they seem only to be trying to clarify the old, existing standards which haven't been changed as far as I can see.

eta: I also agree with @SaRina's post.

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

dooBdoo — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 00:10:51 GMT

Here's the link to the "Community Guidelines" and, in part, they say:

"The following Community Guidelines are an overview of the Community Standards to keep great conversations inviting and inclusive to everyone...

...Be sure to read the Community Standards for complete details so you know what to expect and what is expected of you when you're here."

So, it appears to me nothing has changed. As I said, I believe they were a wee bit clumsy in their description of controversial topics.

(link goes to: http://community.qvc.com/t5/Welcome-Get-Started/Community-Guidelines/td-p/1856684)

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

Allegheny — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 00:24:23 GMT

@Justina wrote:
If you really examine the verbiage here...

"Controversial topics will be removed – Discussions of a controversial or confrontational nature will be removed at our discretion. The following are examples of topics that generally create a negative dialogue between Community members which will result in removal of the discussion and possible banning: current events, politics, religious beliefs, and unkind comments about hosts, vendors, models, or employees."

...this is how I would interpret it...but I could be wrong. lol

Sentence 1: Ambiguous because the first part states outright that "controversial topics will be removed". However...then it continues to say "will be removed at our discretion" which means to me that you can go ahead and post them but they may be removed. They continue to give "examples" that "generally" create negative dialogue. By using the word "generally" that.. to me.. also does not necessarily exclude such topics from being posted because it's saying that it is possible for such topics to have a civil dialogue (only suggesting that such topics "generally create a negative dialogue between Community members")...
....so that if the dialogue turns negative it will result in removal and possible banning.

Therefore...I would agree with Burnsite.

How's that? Can you tell I'm bored?

I agree with you and Burnsite. Basically, I believe what they are trying get across are examples of certain topics that can get ugly. Any topic could become negative and controversial between posters and they are reserving their right to totally remove the entire thread or specific posts. Also I think they will remove a post that quotes a prevoius post which was removed.

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

dooBdoo — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 03:59:30 GMT

Allegheny wrote:
Justina wrote:
If you really examine the verbiage here...

"Controversial topics will be removed – Discussions of a controversial or confrontational nature will be removed at our discretion. The following are examples of topics that generally create a negative dialogue between Community members which will result in removal of the discussion and possible banning: current events, politics, religious beliefs, and unkind comments about hosts, vendors, models, or employees."

...this is how I would interpret it...but I could be wrong. lol

Sentence 1: Ambiguous because the first part states outright that "controversial topics will be removed". However...then it continues to say "will be removed at our discretion" which means to me that you can go ahead and post them but they may be removed. They continue to give "examples" that "generally" create negative dialogue. By using the word "generally" that.. to me.. also does not necessarily exclude such topics from being posted because it's saying that it is possible for such topics to have a civil dialogue (only suggesting that such topics "generally create a negative dialogue between Community members")...
....so that if the dialogue turns negative it will result in removal and possible banning.

Therefore...I would agree with Burnsite.

How's that? Can you tell I'm bored?

I agree with you and Burnsite. Basically, I believe what they are trying get across are examples of certain topics that can get ugly. Any topic could become negative and controversial between posters and they are reserving their right to totally remove the entire thread or specific posts. Also I think they will remove a post that quotes a prevoius post which was removed.

I agree, @Allegheny.

I wish the mods would clarify, but so far they've been very lenient with a number of current-event threads.

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

Lucibee — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 05:33:30 GMT

Controversial topics are all in the community guidelines.

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

Lipstickdiva — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:29:19 GMT

It appears to mean anything that requires us to use our brain for more than deciding what color of something we want to order from QVC or what size to buy.

Anything that isn't rainbows and sunshine.

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

brownponytail80 — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:10:25 GMT

How are they going to handle it when the election season starts heating up? People are going to be posting political stuff left and right.

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

brii — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:17:05 GMT

They're going to remove everything they don't want being discussed.

That leaves pretty much nothing to talk about.

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

Cranberries — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:18:47 GMT

Even toilet paper and crock pots will be off limits because we fight about those things too ...

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

Johnnyeager — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:26:34 GMT

Comments about Susan Graver are being annihilated right and left. Very interesting to watch, and it could be a good thing.

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

brownponytail80 — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:28:55 GMT

I'm imagining the webbies with their little "cyber guns" going pew! pew! pew! as they annhiliate the SG threads.

Re: Please Explain 'Controversial Topics' from 'Community Guidelines'

tansy — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:30:13 GMT

Q's Brittany had an unintentionally very funny comment when she deleted a SG thread 😺