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My simple solution re: traffic stops...

terrier3 — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:17:51 GMT

Instead of stopping cars for broken brake lights, cracked windows, etc.....

How about MY simple solution -

Just get their license plate number, enter it into the in-car computer, and issue a ticket to their homes automatically.

This wouldn't apply to speeding or erratic driving...just simple things like expired plates, broken lights, etc.

It will save LE time, make money for the city and keep everyone - citizens and police - a lot safer.

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scotttie — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:20:03 GMT

That sounds like a good idea.

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deepwaterdotter — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:22:03 GMT

It is a good idea, but folks could say they never received the ticket in the mail.

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VanSleepy — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:23:51 GMT

Then they get the ticket in the mail, fix the problem, and fight the ticket, no? Claim the plate # must have been wrong or something. (If this is a continuation of some other conversation, I'm not aware)

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RainCityGirl — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:23:56 GMT

Okay by me. They do that in Seattle for school zone violations. If you speed, a camera records your speed, your car and license number, time of day, date, etc. Then you get a little letter with your car photo and the place you were, plus the fine, which the last time I checked was just under $200. If you want to contest the fine, you can request a court appearance at their convenience and plead your case. It frees LE up for other more serious things.

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Purrrfect — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:25:14 GMT

Sounds like a plan.

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jessa — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:26:42 GMT

On 4/8/2015 deepwaterdotter said:
It is a good idea, but folks could say they never received the ticket in the mail.

They could send it certified or whichever is the one that needs a signature to prove receipt.......

Re: My simple solution re: traffic stops...

terrier3 — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:28:16 GMT

On 4/8/2015 VanSleepy said: Then they get the ticket in the mail, fix the problem, and fight the ticket, no? Claim the plate # must have been wrong or something. (If this is a continuation of some other conversation, I'm not aware)

I was actually thinking that they might have 30 days to fix the problem and get the ticket dismissed. That is usually what happens now to expired inspection sticker violations here now anyway.

This would get the problems taken care of - the goal of the fine in the first place...or result in a fine for the city.

Lots of cities now have automatic tickets for people going through red lights or toll booths.

This would be similar and would cut down on unnecessary encounters that could be dangerous all around.

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kdgn — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:29:30 GMT

Sounds reasonable to me. If an infraction isn't a danger to others or the driver, why not?

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sidsmom — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:35:59 GMT

There are a million different reasons why the police want to actually talk to the driver. Sometimes it's those simple stops that reveal major criminals.

Two words: Timothy McVeigh (Stopped for missing tags)

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raven-blackbird — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:36:54 GMT

do you know how many felons have been apprehended over a broken tail light or other minor violation.........you can start with Lee Harvey Oswald.....and follow it up with Timothy McVeigh....................................raven

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terrier3 — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:39:06 GMT

On 4/8/2015 sidsmom said:
There are a million different reasons why the police want to actually talk to the driver. Sometimes it's those simple stops that reveal major criminals.

Two words: Timothy McVeigh Missing tags.

That was a once in a lifetime catch.

Most of these minor infractions are just that - minor.

If they run the plates and find out there is an arrest warrant...they can proceed with caution.

It is illegal to search w/o probable cause. You just can't get pulled over for a broken light and searched for everything and anything.

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VanSleepy — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:39:29 GMT

On 4/8/2015 terrier3 said:
On 4/8/2015 VanSleepy said: Then they get the ticket in the mail, fix the problem, and fight the ticket, no? Claim the plate # must have been wrong or something. (If this is a continuation of some other conversation, I'm not aware)

I was actually thinking that they might have 30 days to fix the problem and get the ticket dismissed. That is usually what happens now to expired inspection sticker violations here now anyway.

This would get the problems taken care of - the goal of the fine in the first place...or result in a fine for the city.

Lots of cities now have automatic tickets for people going through red lights or toll booths.

This would be similar and would cut down on unnecessary encounters that could be dangerous all around.

That sounds like a plan. Not sure if you get any time to fix the problem here and get the ticket dismissed.

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sidsmom — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:42:34 GMT

On 4/8/2015 raven-blackbird said:
do you know how many felons have been apprehended over a broken tail light or other minor violation.........you can start with Lee Harvey Oswald.....and follow it up with Timothy McVeigh....................................raven

Funny we posted this @ the same time! My SO is a police officer & has been patient answering my questions about stuff like this! Like I mentioned before, there are many different reasons why the police want to talk w/ the actual driver of the car in question.

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KittyLouSoutenu — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:45:02 GMT

On 4/8/2015 deepwaterdotter said:
It is a good idea, but folks could say they never received the ticket in the mail.

Judging by the mail delivery lately they might very well be telling the truth.

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KathyPet — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:53:11 GMT

On 4/8/2015 raven-blackbird said:
do you know how many felons have been apprehended over a broken tail light or other minor violation.........you can start with Lee Harvey Oswald.....and follow it up with Timothy McVeigh....................................raven

A historical factual correction. The arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald had absolutely nothing to do with a motor vehicle violation. he was captured while on foot. Yes, McVeigh was caught when he was pulled over for driving a vehicle with no license plates.

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raven-blackbird — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 21:01:53 GMT

On 4/8/2015 sidsmom said:
On 4/8/2015 raven-blackbird said:
do you know how many felons have been apprehended over a broken tail light or other minor violation.........you can start with Lee Harvey Oswald.....and follow it up with Timothy McVeigh....................................raven

Funny we posted this @ the same time! My SO is a police officer & has been patient answering my questions about stuff like this! Like I mentioned before, there are many different reasons why the police want to talk w/ the actual driver of the car in question.

exactly right...........they use the minor infraction as probable cause to move into what they really stopped them for...............................................raven

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NoelSeven — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 21:06:18 GMT

They've used lights around here for people not coming to a complete stop, AND they send them a ticket for $500. No accident, just supposedly a rolling stop.

In about two years, it all backfired, with it being proven the lights weren't always correct. Small towns who used them for making money were stuck with big bills AFTER they'd collected a small fortune.

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raven-blackbird — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 21:07:47 GMT

On 4/8/2015 KathyPet said:
On 4/8/2015 raven-blackbird said:
do you know how many felons have been apprehended over a broken tail light or other minor violation.........you can start with Lee Harvey Oswald.....and follow it up with Timothy McVeigh....................................raven

A historical factual correction. The arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald had absolutely nothing to do with a motor vehicle violation. he was captured while on foot. Yes, McVeigh was caught when he was pulled over for driving a vehicle with no license plates.

yes and no..............Oswald was stopped by a police officer as he stood on the street...the officer thought he fit the description.....minutes later that officer was shot dead..................................raven

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betteb — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 21:16:01 GMT

On 4/8/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
On 4/8/2015 deepwaterdotter said:
It is a good idea, but folks could say they never received the ticket in the mail.

Judging by the mail delivery lately they might very well be telling the truth.

I hear that...SMH