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For Raven

Puzzle Piece — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 19:40:21 GMT

Sorry your post was deleted Raven. I found the very petty posts as to my misspelled word just foolish. Instead of sticking to the subject, they dodge the whole subject by picking out something petty to harang about. My post was not the thread but they made it out to be.

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NoelSeven — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 19:46:07 GMT

Why was her post there deleted? It was a good post, I responded once last night and there was no problem there.

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Puzzle Piece — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 19:48:42 GMT

NoelSeven - I misspelled a word intentionally due to the fact that in the past I couldn't post if I spelled it correctly due to either the standard, rules, or those that take offense if things couldn't be posted in the ways they like. The word was relijun. How very petty.

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sophiamarie — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 19:50:55 GMT

What????? You can't spell religion?????

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NoelSeven — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 19:53:27 GMT

On 4/4/2015 Love Roses said:
NoelSeven - I misspelled a word intentionally due to the fact that in the past I couldn't post if I spelled it correctly due to either the standard, rules, or those that take offense if things couldn't be posted in the ways they like. The work was relijun. How very petty.

They treat women like children here. It was a good subject and posed a dilemma of a problem.

It also showed how the Hawaiians are, and have been, treated pretty much the same as the Native Americans.

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Puzzle Piece — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 19:59:46 GMT

On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:
On 4/4/2015 Love Roses said:
NoelSeven - I misspelled a word intentionally due to the fact that in the past I couldn't post if I spelled it correctly due to either the standard, rules, or those that take offense if things couldn't be posted in the ways they like. The work was relijun. How very petty.

They treat women like children here. It was a good subject and posed a dilemma of a problem.

It also showed how the Hawaiians are, and have been, treated pretty much the same as the Native Americans.

Yes. One would think that they would stick with the subject matter instead of going off in the usual directions.

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NoelSeven — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 20:01:34 GMT

On 4/4/2015 Love Roses said:
On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:
On 4/4/2015 Love Roses said:
NoelSeven - I misspelled a word intentionally due to the fact that in the past I couldn't post if I spelled it correctly due to either the standard, rules, or those that take offense if things couldn't be posted in the ways they like. The work was relijun. How very petty.

They treat women like children here. It was a good subject and posed a dilemma of a problem.

It also showed how the Hawaiians are, and have been, treated pretty much the same as the Native Americans.

Yes. One would think that they would stick with the subject matter instead of going off in the usual directions.

Oh, I didn't get to see additional posts after mine. What direction did the line take... if you can say?

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traveler — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 20:10:51 GMT

Yes, that is why there wasn't a big celebration when Hawaii the state turned 50.

And blame the sugar corporations for the "theft" of Hawaii. Business with govt. in their pocket.

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Puzzle Piece — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 20:31:17 GMT

On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:
On 4/4/2015 Love Roses said:
On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:
On 4/4/2015 Love Roses said:
NoelSeven - I misspelled a word intentionally due to the fact that in the past I couldn't post if I spelled it correctly due to either the standard, rules, or those that take offense if things couldn't be posted in the ways they like. The work was relijun. How very petty.

They treat women like children here. It was a good subject and posed a dilemma of a problem.

It also showed how the Hawaiians are, and have been, treated pretty much the same as the Native Americans.

Yes. One would think that they would stick with the subject matter instead of going off in the usual directions.

Oh, I didn't get to see additional posts after mine. What direction did the line take... if you can say?

They jumped on claiming insult to the word relijun. It went from there.

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Irshgrl31201 — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 20:40:26 GMT

Are you ladies talking about Ravens post about Native Americans? I saw that right before I was going to bed last night and wanted to comment on it, particularly to a poster who was pretty negative towards NA's and their reasoning for wanting land labeled as sacred but I was tired and couldn't stay up much longer so I planned on commenting when I got on today. All the good threads get poofed. It was fairly new when I noticed it, did it get a lot of responses?

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Marp2 — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 21:03:50 GMT

On 4/4/2015 Love Roses said:
On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:
On 4/4/2015 Love Roses said:
On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:
On 4/4/2015 Love Roses said:
NoelSeven - I misspelled a word intentionally due to the fact that in the past I couldn't post if I spelled it correctly due to either the standard, rules, or those that take offense if things couldn't be posted in the ways they like. The work was relijun. How very petty.

They treat women like children here. It was a good subject and posed a dilemma of a problem.

It also showed how the Hawaiians are, and have been, treated pretty much the same as the Native Americans.

Yes. One would think that they would stick with the subject matter instead of going off in the usual directions.

Oh, I didn't get to see additional posts after mine. What direction did the line take... if you can say?

They jumped on claiming insult to the word relijun. It went from there.

That is disingenuous. The context in which you used the word was insulting. You said, "I would want them to win their protests and let others know that their beliefs and culture matter equally as much at the other practices called relijun."

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NoelSeven — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 21:06:46 GMT

On 4/4/2015 Love Roses said:
On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:
On 4/4/2015 Love Roses said:
On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:
On 4/4/2015 Love Roses said:
NoelSeven - I misspelled a word intentionally due to the fact that in the past I couldn't post if I spelled it correctly due to either the standard, rules, or those that take offense if things couldn't be posted in the ways they like. The work was relijun. How very petty.

They treat women like children here. It was a good subject and posed a dilemma of a problem.

It also showed how the Hawaiians are, and have been, treated pretty much the same as the Native Americans.

Yes. One would think that they would stick with the subject matter instead of going off in the usual directions.

Oh, I didn't get to see additional posts after mine. What direction did the line take... if you can say?

They jumped on claiming insult to the word relijun. It went from there.

Oh for the love of pete

That almost always happens when people like that are unable to comment on the actual subject.

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NoelSeven — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 21:09:07 GMT

On 4/4/2015 Irshgrl31201 said:
Are you ladies talking about Ravens post about Native Americans? I saw that right before I was going to bed last night and wanted to comment on it, particularly to a poster who was pretty negative towards NA's and their reasoning for wanting land labeled as sacred but I was tired and couldn't stay up much longer so I planned on commenting when I got on today. All the good threads get poofed. It was fairly new when I noticed it, did it get a lot of responses?

Irsh, it was about what was happening to the Hawaiian people. Wanting to build on scared ground.

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Plaid Pants2 — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 21:09:28 GMT

I have a question.

I'm not being snarky, just asking an honest question.

Since the NA's, were here long before white man, couldn't all of America be considered "sacred grounds"?

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NoelSeven — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 21:11:10 GMT

On 4/4/2015 Plaid Pants said:
I have a question.

I'm not being snarky, just asking an honest question.

Since the NA's, were here long before white man, couldn't all of America be considered "sacred grounds"?

No. Certain areas were designated for that and the burial of their ancestors.

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Cakers1 — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 21:49:16 GMT

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NoelSeven — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 21:53:17 GMT

I remember the days when the spelling "relijun" for religion was common in popular Western/cowboy books etc.

It was never used as a slur, so it wouldn't bother me now. In fact, there's a popular band, "Old Time Relijun," which you can look up.

It was never a slur, folks.

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Puzzle Piece — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 22:03:58 GMT

On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:
I remember the days when the spelling "relijun" for religion was common in popular Western/cowboy books etc.

It was never used as a slur, so it wouldn't bother me now. In fact, there's a popular band, "Old Time Relijun," which you can look up.

It was never a slur, folks.

Yep. True. Tell that to Marp who takes such offense, or should I write, 'thems is fighting words'.

Plaid Pants, to many the tribes in the continent of North America, many lands are considered sacred. I support the Hawaiians in what they want.

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Irshgrl31201 — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 22:30:16 GMT

On 4/4/2015 Marp2 said:
On 4/4/2015 Love Roses said:
On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:
On 4/4/2015 Love Roses said:
On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:
On 4/4/2015 Love Roses said:
NoelSeven - I misspelled a word intentionally due to the fact that in the past I couldn't post if I spelled it correctly due to either the standard, rules, or those that take offense if things couldn't be posted in the ways they like. The work was relijun. How very petty.

They treat women like children here. It was a good subject and posed a dilemma of a problem.

It also showed how the Hawaiians are, and have been, treated pretty much the same as the Native Americans.

Yes. One would think that they would stick with the subject matter instead of going off in the usual directions.

Oh, I didn't get to see additional posts after mine. What direction did the line take... if you can say?

They jumped on claiming insult to the word relijun. It went from there.

That is disingenuous. The context in which you used the word was insulting. You said, "I would want them to win their protests and let others know that their beliefs and culture matter equally as much at the other practices called relijun."

I don't see what is insulting about that?

Thanks Noel!

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NoelSeven — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 22:33:46 GMT

On 4/4/2015 Love Roses said:
On 4/4/2015 NoelSeven said:
I remember the days when the spelling "relijun" for religion was common in popular Western/cowboy books etc.

It was never used as a slur, so it wouldn't bother me now. In fact, there's a popular band, "Old Time Relijun," which you can look up.

It was never a slur, folks.

Yep. True. Tell that to Marp who takes such offense, or should I write, 'thems is fighting words'.

Plaid Pants, to many the tribes in the continent of North America, many lands are considered sacred. I support the Hawaiians in what they want.

Maybe other people aren't as old as we are, LOL, or didn't watch westerns on TV or read cowboy comics.

I dunno, but I do know it was never considered a slur in those days.

I'd think that if people thought it was a slur nowadays, there would be multiple groups looking to hang that band.