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Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

lolakimono — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 01:58:39 GMT

http://www.healthyworkplacebill.org/index.php

Quick Facts About the Healthy Workplace Bill

What the HWB Does for Employers

Precisely defines an "abusive work environment" -- it is a high standard for misconduct

Requires proof of health harm by licensed health or mental health professionals

Protects conscientious employers from vicarious liability risk when internal correction and prevention mechanisms are in effect

Gives employers the reason to terminate or sanction offenders

Requires plaintiffs to use private attorneys

Plugs the gaps in current state and federal civil rights protections

What the HWB Does for Workers

Provides an avenue for legal redress for health harming cruelty at work

Allows you to sue the bully as an individual

Holds the employer accountable

Seeks restoration of lost wages and benefits

Compels employers to prevent and correct future instances

What the HWB Does Not Do

Involve state agencies to enforce any provisions of the law

Incur costs for adopting states

Require plaintiffs to be members of protected status groups (it is "status-blind")

Use the term "workplace bullying"

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

Mominohio — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 21:45:47 GMT

I really don't support the government getting into any other part of my life, and would like to see them exit a lot of the places they are now. The government does not do an efficient or good job at anything it sticks it's nose in (with the exception of the military, but even that isn't managed as well as it could be, financially).

Less government in general, would be a good thing.

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

terrier3 — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 21:49:13 GMT

Yes...Yes...YES.

There are too many bullies in this world.

Back in the day there were strong unions to support workers...now it's every man or woman for themselves. Harassment, bullying, cruelty are wrong.

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

DoneTryin — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 22:29:39 GMT

Hmm, interesting. There are laws on the books right now about various kinds of discrimination, yet many employers learned very quickly how to work around them & not get caught. I hate to be negative, but I just don't see this working the way the creators had in mind.

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

hyacinth003 — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 22:32:19 GMT

I don't support any MORE government bills, legislation, or interference by government in just about ANY aspect of our lives.

Hyacinth

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

terrier3 — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 22:33:22 GMT

On 1/23/2015 VCamp2748 said:
Hmm, interesting. There are laws on the books right now about various kinds of discrimination, yet many employers learned very quickly how to work around them & not get caught. I hate to be negative, but I just don't see this working the way the creators had in mind.

Bullying isn't always based on discrimination...it doesn't fit into a protected category.

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

hyacinth003 — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 22:45:05 GMT

While I don't support "bullying," you can NEVER legislate human behavior in or OUT of existence.

Just like secksual harrassment (or someone's definition of it), human male/female behavior cannot be legislated out.

We might as well legislate robotic behavior the way it's going in the PC era.

Hyacinth

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

Dam Yankee — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 23:13:51 GMT

Nope, I sure don't. Once again, the feds are attempting to tromp all over the 10th amendment.

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

Luv2Decorate — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 23:21:16 GMT

On 1/23/2015 Dam Yankee said:
Nope, I sure don't. Once again, the feds are attempting to tromp all over the 10th amendment.

ITA.

I'm tired of it.

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

raven-blackbird — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 23:21:55 GMT

On 1/23/2015 Dam Yankee said:
Nope, I sure don't. Once again, the feds are attempting to tromp all over the 10th amendment.

EXACTLY....................less government .....................................................raven

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

RainyDayGal — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 23:23:30 GMT

On 1/23/2015 hyacinth003 said:
I don't support any MORE government bills, legislation, or interference by government in just about ANY aspect of our lives.

Hyacinth

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

DoneTryin — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 23:44:24 GMT

On 1/23/2015 terrier3 said:
On 1/23/2015 VCamp2748 said:
Hmm, interesting. There are laws on the books right now about various kinds of discrimination, yet many employers learned very quickly how to work around them & not get caught. I hate to be negative, but I just don't see this working the way the creators had in mind.

Bullying isn't always based on discrimination...it doesn't fit into a protected category.

Didn't say it was discrimination. I was saying that "they" can make laws, but that doesn't necessarily mean people obey them.

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

Irshgrl31201 — Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:05:27 GMT

On 1/23/2015 hyacinth003 said:
While I don't support "bullying," you can NEVER legislate human behavior in or OUT of existence.

Just like secksual harrassment (or someone's definition of it), human male/female behavior cannot be legislated out.

We might as well legislate robotic behavior the way it's going in the PC era.

Hyacinth

Agree.

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

esmeraldagooch — Sat, 24 Jan 2015 04:19:50 GMT

On 1/23/2015 Irshgrl31201 said:
On 1/23/2015 hyacinth003 said:
While I don't support "bullying," you can NEVER legislate human behavior in or OUT of existence.

Just like secksual harrassment (or someone's definition of it), human male/female behavior cannot be legislated out.

We might as well legislate robotic behavior the way it's going in the PC era.

Hyacinth

Agree.

I agree also.

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

Cakers1 — Sat, 24 Jan 2015 04:27:07 GMT

The problem is this - an employee could be set up to be accused simply because the employee is not liked by a few others. Law or no law, businesses need to be very careful handling accusations as it is. Businesses who do not have clear policies in writing will be the last to follow a new law.

Businesses with good HR structure will not need this law.

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

YorkieonmyPillow — Sat, 24 Jan 2015 04:34:22 GMT

We don't need more laws we need to get rid of about half the ones we have........

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

Tyak — Sat, 24 Jan 2015 05:09:13 GMT

we need less government in our lives, not more!

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

foundinlv — Sat, 24 Jan 2015 05:27:12 GMT

There was a woman I worked with for 3 years and we took breaks together, helped one another with work related issues that cropped up discussing things at length.....so one day she wore this low cut tank top and you could see her tatoo on her breast and so when I greeted her that day I said oh nice top kinda racy for here though, wink wink. Well, she took offense by that. She put her hands on her hips and said well, my husband said it's ok to wear and then spoke to HR. I was floored. It was in fact inappropriate for work and they told her that and since I was not her supervisor my job wasn't placed in jeopardy. They did speak to me privately though to ask what prompted the convo. Like I said, I was floored. Everyone knew we hung out and saw us each day in the breakroom. After that I became the lone ranger and when the company shut its doors, I said adios and never looked back.

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

Irshgrl31201 — Sat, 24 Jan 2015 05:40:55 GMT

On 1/23/2015 Ilikeshade said:
There was a woman I worked with for 3 years and we took breaks together, helped one another with work related issues that cropped up discussing things at length.....so one day she wore this low cut tank top and you could see her tatoo on her breast and so when I greeted her that day I said oh nice top kinda racy for here though, wink wink. Well, she took offense by that. She put her hands on her hips and said well, my husband said it's ok to wear and then spoke to HR. I was floored. It was in fact inappropriate for work and they told her that and since I was not her supervisor my job wasn't placed in jeopardy. They did speak to me privately though to ask what prompted the convo. Like I said, I was floored. Everyone knew we hung out and saw us each day in the breakroom. After that I became the lone ranger and when the company shut its doors, I said adios and never looked back.

I can understand why you were floored. I love her comment, well my husband said it was ok. lol..

Re: Do you support a Healthy Workplace Bill?

terrier3 — Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:20:46 GMT

On 1/23/2015 VCamp2748 said:
On 1/23/2015 terrier3 said:
On 1/23/2015 VCamp2748 said:
Hmm, interesting. There are laws on the books right now about various kinds of discrimination, yet many employers learned very quickly how to work around them & not get caught. I hate to be negative, but I just don't see this working the way the creators had in mind.

Bullying isn't always based on discrimination...it doesn't fit into a protected category.

Didn't say it was discrimination. I was saying that "they" can make laws, but that doesn't necessarily mean people obey them.

But if people don't obey them - and fellow workers complain - they can be made to stop with these laws.

That's like saying let's get rid of speed limits, since not everyone follows them...or laws against murder, incest, etc. - since they are broken all the time.