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Where is the outrage?

my oh my — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 18:13:38 GMT

A Kentucky deputy who witnesses say jumped onto the roof of a 19-year-old girl's car and opened fire on her will not be indicted in the girl's death.

Samantha Ramsey was killed by Boone County deputy Tyler Brockman as she left a party in April. Now, a Boone County grand jury has decided not to indict Brockman,who has always maintained he acted in self-defense, the Cincinnati Enquirer reports.

In a statement to his supervisors, Brockman said he tried to stop Ramsey from driving away from the party so that he could see if she was intoxicated.

Brockman told his boss that Ramsey then took a "left turn" and ran into him, forcing him up onto the hood of her car.

Brockman said Ramsey sped up and, "At this point Deputy Brockman knew the operator, Samantha Ramsey was about to kill him," the statement said. "Deputy Brockman in reaction to the deadly force brought against him, drew his Glock 22 Service weapon and fired what he believed to be 3 shots (turned out to be 4) through the driver window."

In a statement sent to The Huffington Post, Ramsey's mom, Brandi Stewart, expressed her disappointment in the grand jury's decision.

"Now, over six months after my daughter was shot to death by Deputy Brockman, the only thing I know for sure is that he will not answer for his actions and that in Boone County, you cannot indict a Boone County Deputy for shooting an unarmed 19-year-old four times in front of numerous witnesses," Stewart said.

She also said the investigation should have been handled by another law enforcement agency, rather than the sheriff's department.

"The Community's concerns regarding the Boone County Sheriff investigating one of it own deputies have been confirmed," Stewart said. "The investigation should have immediately been turned over to another police agency."

When the case was first reported, witnesses and the teen's family said Brockman jumped on Ramsey's car and fatally shot her.

"That's murder!” Ramsey’s friend, Gunnar Buemi told WLWT in April. “Justice needs to be done about this injustice."

The evidence report released in the case said Ramsey had a blood alcohol content of .12, over the legal limit for someone 21 or older to drive a car.

The report, obtained by WCPO, also found that Brockman's right boot had tire marks on it from when it was run over by Ramsey's car.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/09/samantha-ramsey_n_6123820.html?hpcrime=y

Re: Where is the outrage?

GrettaGarbled — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 18:27:11 GMT

Probably because Ms. Ramsey, in this case, was armed with a weapon (the vehicle).

Re: Where is the outrage?

my oh my — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 18:34:37 GMT

Oh but that is the officer's story isn't it? He's probably lying.

Re: Where is the outrage?

millieshops — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 18:41:13 GMT

Based on what evidence? Or is it just that all cops are liars?

Re: Where is the outrage?

chickenbutt — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 18:43:02 GMT

Of course HER passengers said that it happened differently than what the evidence shows.

Re: Where is the outrage?

my oh my — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 18:51:21 GMT

On 11/9/2014 millieshops said:
Based on what evidence? Or is it just that all cops are liars?

I was being factitious.

Re: Where is the outrage?

Snowpuppy — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 18:51:35 GMT

What outrage?

We have due process in this country. Just ask Casey Anthony.

Re: Where is the outrage?

my oh my — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 18:57:37 GMT

On 11/9/2014 Snowpuppy said:
What outrage?

We have due process in this country. Just ask Casey Anthony.

Just ask Darren Wilson.

Re: Where is the outrage?

GrettaGarbled — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 19:00:47 GMT

On 11/9/2014 my oh my said:
On 11/9/2014 Snowpuppy said:
What outrage?

We have due process in this country. Just ask Casey Anthony.

Just ask Darren Wilson.

What about him? Different situation. The dead kid was completely unarmed.

According to rumor, he's about to be cleared by a GJ too.

Re: Where is the outrage?

deepwaterdotter — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 19:08:02 GMT

OP appears to be sufficiently outraged for everyone.

Re: Where is the outrage?

chessylady — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 19:10:38 GMT

Anyone who still has faith in the American justice system hasn't been paying attention.

Re: Where is the outrage?

my oh my — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 19:11:26 GMT

On 11/9/2014 GrettaGarbled said:
On 11/9/2014 my oh my said:
On 11/9/2014 Snowpuppy said:
What outrage?

We have due process in this country. Just ask Casey Anthony.

Just ask Darren Wilson.

What about him? Different situation. The dead kid was completely unarmed.

According to rumor, he's about to be cleared by a GJ too.

Considering he has already been convicted in the court of public opinion I doubt he would agree with you that it is so cut and dry. His life will never be the same.

Re: Where is the outrage?

GrettaGarbled — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 19:13:06 GMT

On 11/9/2014 my oh my said:
On 11/9/2014 GrettaGarbled said:
On 11/9/2014 my oh my said:
On 11/9/2014 Snowpuppy said:
What outrage?

We have due process in this country. Just ask Casey Anthony.

Just ask Darren Wilson.

What about him? Different situation. The dead kid was completely unarmed.

According to rumor, he's about to be cleared by a GJ too.

Considering he has already been convicted in the court of public opinion I doubt he would agree with you that it is so cut and dry. His life will never be the same.

At least he has his life.

Re: Where is the outrage?

Snowpuppy — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 19:21:26 GMT

On 11/9/2014 my oh my said:
On 11/9/2014 GrettaGarbled said:
On 11/9/2014 my oh my said:
On 11/9/2014 Snowpuppy said:
What outrage?

We have due process in this country. Just ask Casey Anthony.

Just ask Darren Wilson.

What about him? Different situation. The dead kid was completely unarmed.

According to rumor, he's about to be cleared by a GJ too.

Considering he has already been convicted in the court of public opinion I doubt he would agree with you that it is so cut and dry. His life will never be the same.

This is true. He'll ink a book deal and possibly a tv movie. It's the New American Way.

Re: Where is the outrage?

Free2be — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 20:02:31 GMT

In the video, it appears that he is reaching for his gun when he realizes she is going to drive on by him.

Re: Where is the outrage?

SnowPink — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 20:41:52 GMT

On 11/9/2014 chickenbutt said:
Of course HER passengers said that it happened differently than what the evidence shows.

Just some some witnesses in Ferguson....

Re: Where is the outrage?

Tinkrbl44 — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 20:47:10 GMT

Ramsey ran into him with her car forcing him to jump up on the hood ..... and no one thinks trying to run down a cop with your car will have consequences?

How dumb is that !!!

Re: Where is the outrage?

SnowPink — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 20:49:07 GMT

On 11/9/2014 GrettaGarbled said:
What about him? Different situation. The dead kid was completely unarmed.

According to rumor, he's about to be cleared by a GJ too.

You don't have to have a firearm to be threatening to an officer or anyone else. Obviously since Officer Wilson will be cleared, then there's not evidence to prove that you're right.

Re: Where is the outrage?

GrettaGarbled — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 20:51:33 GMT

On 11/9/2014 Joselyn33 said:
On 11/9/2014 GrettaGarbled said:
What about him? Different situation. The dead kid was completely unarmed.

According to rumor, he's about to be cleared by a GJ too.

You don't have to have a firearm to be threatening to an officer or anyone else. Obviously since Officer Wilson will be cleared, then there's not evidence to prove that you're right.

Huh? Not enough evidence to prove he was unarmed? Ok.

Re: Where is the outrage?

GrettaGarbled — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 20:52:26 GMT

On 11/9/2014 Joselyn33 said:
On 11/9/2014 chickenbutt said:
Of course HER passengers said that it happened differently than what the evidence shows.

Just some some witnesses in Ferguson....

Except the witnesses in Ferguson were not affiliated with the dead teen.