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Twitter explodes as Calvin Klein says THIS is ‘plus size’

my oh my — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:01:32 GMT

Calvin Klein's newest ad campaign, "Perfectly Fit," features 27-year-old Myla Dalbesio modeling the brand's "plus sized" underwear. The only problem? Dalbesio is not even close to what some people consider "plus sized," according to ranters on social media.

Even Dalbesio is befuddled that she is being marketed as such.

“It’s kind of confusing because I’m a bigger girl,” Dalbesio says in the latest issue of Elle magazine. “I’m not the biggest girl on the market but I’m definitely bigger than all the girls [Calvin Klein] has ever worked with, so that is really intimidating.”

She said that although she was unsure of how the photo shoot would go in terms of her size or shape, “no one even batted an eye,” she tells Elle. “It was very cool.”

But on social media, it hasn’t gone over so cool. Many people see it as yet another attempt for a fashion house to circumvent the burgeoning “real shape” movement.

Another Twitter user said: "Maybe they meant plus-size as in height? Maybe she's 7 foot tall and that's enough for them?"

It's the second time in as many weeks that a fashion brand has irked the public. A recent petition aimed at Victoria's Secret's "Perfect Body" campaign says that the lingerie retailer "fails to celebrate the amazing diversity of women’s bodies by choosing to call only one body type 'perfect'."

Dalbesio, no stranger to the rigors of trying to fit a certain size in the modeling world, for her part, seems to be almost apologetic about the “plus size” moniker thrust upon her.

“I’m not skinny enough to be with the skinny girls and I’m not large enough to be with the large girls and I haven’t been able to find my place,” she says in Elle. “This [campaign] was such a great feeling.”

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2014/11/08/calvin-klein-plus-sized-model

Re: Twitter explodes as Calvin Klein says THIS is ‘plus size’

Plaid Pants — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:05:13 GMT

In the modeling world, maybe she is "plus-sized". But in the real world, she is still skinny/thin.

Re: Twitter explodes as Calvin Klein says THIS is ‘plus size’

september — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:05:53 GMT

I'm not sure "plus size" is the right term. But she is bigger than most models we usually see. And she is bigger than me, and I don't consider myself to be a smaller size anymore, unlike in the past.

I'm sure that how we perceive this model's size...is going to relate to how we perceive ourselves.

Re: Twitter explodes as Calvin Klein says THIS is ‘plus size’

september — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:07:34 GMT

On 11/8/2014 Plaid Pants said:
In the modeling world, maybe she is "plus-sized". But in the real world, she is still skinny/thin.

I can't say I agree that she's skinny or thin. I'm 56 years old, and I think someone much younger than me, ought to be fitter and thinner than me.

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Say Nay — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:12:13 GMT

7 feet tall?

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kdgn — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:14:04 GMT

She looks about average to me. The majority of models are so close to looking like they have an eating disorder-

But she is NOT plus-size.

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brii — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:15:19 GMT

I don't consider her plus size. She is definitely bigger than a regular model and smaller than a plus size model.

It's nice to see women of different sizes.

Re: Twitter explodes as Calvin Klein says THIS is ‘plus size’

september — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:21:06 GMT

It seems to me that the model, herself, even admits to being a bigger girl. yes, she is, and she's also very attractive. I don't see the problem with acknowledging that she's big for a model?

She's earning a living (I'll bet it's a good one) and she must be happy about that.

Re: Twitter explodes as Calvin Klein says THIS is ‘plus size’

my oh my — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:22:28 GMT

Bigger than most models? Yes Plus size? No.

Re: Twitter explodes as Calvin Klein says THIS is ‘plus size’

september — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:23:47 GMT

Aren't most plus sized models around a size 12-14? Yes, they're at the smaller end of the size range for the group they're selling their modeled clothing to, but so are the size 2 models that sell clothing to the "non-plus sized" women.

Re: Twitter explodes as Calvin Klein says THIS is ‘plus size’

Kalli — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:24:13 GMT

On 11/8/2014 my oh my said:
Bigger than most models? Yes Plus size? No.

I agree.

-Kalli

Re: Twitter explodes as Calvin Klein says THIS is ‘plus size’

my oh my — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:29:40 GMT

On 11/8/2014 september said:
Aren't most plus sized models around a size 12-14? Yes, they're at the smaller end of the size range for the group they're selling their modeled clothing to, but so are the size 2 models that sell clothing to the "non-plus sized" women.

I consider plus size a 1X which is 18W-20W. I do think some stores carry a 12W thru 16W but they are not your normal size 12 thru 16. They are cut a little bigger.

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minkbunny — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:30:18 GMT

Just showed the photo to my husband. We both agree that she is certainly not skinny, certainly not overweight, definitely has bad posture and is probably considered plus sized in the modeling world.

Re: Twitter explodes as Calvin Klein says THIS is ‘plus size’

Colonel Meow — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:31:13 GMT

On 11/8/2014 september said:
Aren't most plus sized models around a size 12-14? Yes, they're at the smaller end of the size range for the group they're selling their modeled clothing to, but so are the size 2 models that sell clothing to the "non-plus sized" women.

Yes, I thought she looked to be in the 12-14 range. Which is by no means "big", but is considered on the smaller end of Plus-sized.

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september — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:37:42 GMT

There have been times when I've passed by stores at the malls that sell clothing to plus-sized women....and based on the mannequins in the windows...I didn't know that, and went into these stores anyway, even though there was nothing in there that would fit me.

So, it doesn't surprise me that they use women at the smaller end of the size range as the models.

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JustJazzmom — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:42:14 GMT

She is probably considered 'plus sized' because if her ribs were showing then she would be 'regular sized'.

Does Mr. Klein live in an alternate universe from the rest of the planet?

I think so...

Re: Twitter explodes as Calvin Klein says THIS is ‘plus size’

Colonel Meow — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:43:30 GMT

On 11/8/2014 september said:
There have been times when I've passed by stores at the malls that sell clothing to plus-sized women....and based on the mannequins in the windows...I didn't know that, and went into these stores anyway, even though there was nothing in there that would fit me.

So, it doesn't surprise me that they use women at the smaller end of the size range as the models.

LOL, that's funny!

Re: Twitter explodes as Calvin Klein says THIS is ‘plus size’

adelle38 — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:44:13 GMT

On 11/8/2014 Colonel Meow said:
On 11/8/2014 september said:
Aren't most plus sized models around a size 12-14? Yes, they're at the smaller end of the size range for the group they're selling their modeled clothing to, but so are the size 2 models that sell clothing to the "non-plus sized" women.

Yes, I thought she looked to be in the 12-14 range. Which is by no means "big", but is considered on the smaller end of Plus-sized.

In one article, it said she's a size 8. Another one I saw said she's size 10. She looks like a 10 to me.

Re: Twitter explodes as Calvin Klein says THIS is ‘plus size’

Colonel Meow — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:48:05 GMT

On 11/8/2014 adelle38 said:
On 11/8/2014 Colonel Meow said:
On 11/8/2014 september said:
Aren't most plus sized models around a size 12-14? Yes, they're at the smaller end of the size range for the group they're selling their modeled clothing to, but so are the size 2 models that sell clothing to the "non-plus sized" women.

Yes, I thought she looked to be in the 12-14 range. Which is by no means "big", but is considered on the smaller end of Plus-sized.

In one article, it said she's a size 8. Another one I saw said she's size 10. She looks like a 10 to me.

It's so hard to estimate someone's size, isn't it? I have girlfriends who weigh a lot more than me (50+ lbs), but they wear smaller sizes just because they are taller and their weight is distributed so differently.

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shoptilyadropagain — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:59:00 GMT

I don't think it gave her size but most designers think a size 8 and up is plus-size. That sort of thinking is not right but that's pretty much the norm in high fashion. Tyra Banks has done a lot to try to change this but it still has a LOOOONNNNNG way to go.