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NFL Players Abuse

gonnab — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:15:26 GMT

I am not a football fan and, therefore, don't follow it nor do I know the players. As an outsider, I am curious. It seems to me that the pattern of physical abuse appears to be common and we are now finding out more about it. I find this to be disturbing. Has this impacted your views of the game? And do you now watch less than before?

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Luv2Decorate — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:28:20 GMT

No it won't change my love of the game. We watched 10 hours of football yesterday and the games were great. Go Lions!

We subscribe to the NFL network and the Red Zone, it's so fun., and I'm on a fantasy football league, which is a riot!

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terrier3 — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:31:05 GMT

I don't think this scandal involves the actual sport...

But I don't like the league and it's inconsistent leaders. At all!

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Buck-i-Nana — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:33:41 GMT

There are hundreds of professional football players. It's a given that there will be bad apples, as with any other sport or profession. I love football and that will not change, and don't understand condemning an entire sport because of the failures of management and a few bad apples. With the high visibility now, some changes for the better in expectations by management for on-field AND off-field behavior will be a good thing.

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brii — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:38:49 GMT

There are 1800 professional football players. Not all of them are abusers.

I do think if players are committing crimes, they should be dealt with. The league and its sponsors are more than willing to sweep this under the rug.

Football fans are football fans. These scandals won't impact the NFL at all.

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Junebug54 — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 16:51:37 GMT

On 9/22/2014 Luv2Decorate said:
No it won't change my love of the game. We watched 10 hours of football yesterday and the games were great. Go Lions!

We subscribe to the NFL network and the Red Zone, it's so fun., and I'm on a fantasy football league, which is a riot!

Ditto in our house!! I will also add (in the risk of being slammed) that I don't think that the NFL should have to be the watchdog of all the players. They aren't children for goodness sake. Let the legal system do its job. Even my husband doesn't agree with me on this one LOL...

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hckynut — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:01:12 GMT

On 9/22/2014 gonnab said:
I am not a football fan and, therefore, don't follow it nor do I know the players. As an outsider, I am curious. It seems to me that the pattern of physical abuse appears to be common and we are now finding out more about it. I find this to be disturbing. Has this impacted your views of the game? And do you now watch less than before?

I am not a fan of Professional football, nor do I follow it.

Physical abuse by football players outside of football games is a smaller percentage than it is in the population at large. Sure, when the focus is on people well known to the public, as are many professional athletes, it is going to appear this is more specific to their trade than in the general population.

All one need do is go and look through "public records" and see the number of "physical abuse allegations and/or charges" in their county and they will see this is a problem with the whole or our society.

The only football I have watched for many years now is Division I College Football, and more specifically, the Nebraska Cornhusker games.

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Lila Belle — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 21:39:29 GMT

No one knows that the # is smaller. Not every incidence of abuse is reported.

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straykatz — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 21:58:01 GMT

I don't think all football players are abusive but I do think the NFL league has been too lenient towards it.

I also want to add that domestic violence is all around us....right now it's in the forefront because of the NFL but once they get it right then I hope it doesn't go away....this subject should no longer be hushed up or swept under the rug....it's not going to go away and it's time these abusers realize there are serious consequences for thier inability to control their anger.

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sidsmom — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 22:03:19 GMT

On 9/22/2014 hckynut said:
On 9/22/2014 gonnab said:
I am not a football fan and, therefore, don't follow it nor do I know the players. As an outsider, I am curious. It seems to me that the pattern of physical abuse appears to be common and we are now finding out more about it. I find this to be disturbing. Has this impacted your views of the game? And do you now watch less than before?

I am not a fan of Professional football, nor do I follow it.

Physical abuse by football players outside of football games is a smaller percentage than it is in the population at large. Sure, when the focus is on people well known to the public, as are many professional athletes, it is going to appear this is more specific to their trade than in the general population.

All one need do is go and look through "public records" and see the number of "physical abuse allegations and/or charges" in their county and they will see this is a problem with the whole or our society.

The only football I have watched for many years now is Division I College Football, and more specifically, the Nebraska Cornhusker games.

I, too, grew up with Nebraska football. My sisters & I lived in the dorm where they provided a special dining room for the football players. They're treated like gods there....not a healthy environment. That sense of entitlement begins at an early age to a professional setting.

News alert: next to professional cycling, College Football is one of the dirtiest sports out there.

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millieshops — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 22:44:36 GMT

Anyone know the percentage of violators in the NFL as compared to some other occupations? I don't, but I do know I put no faith in any statements like "never again." We need to know because while I'm too old to wait for never, I'm too young not to expect improvement.

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hckynut — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 04:07:40 GMT

On 9/22/2014 Lila Belle said:
No one knows that the # is smaller. Not every incidence of abuse is reported.

Can you prove a negative? If so, please let me know the procedure.

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hckynut — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 04:14:18 GMT

On 9/22/2014 sidsmom said:
I, too, grew up with Nebraska football. My sisters & I lived in the dorm where they provided a special dining room for the football players. They're treated like gods there....not a healthy environment. That sense of entitlement begins at an early age to a professional setting.

News alert: next to professional cycling, College Football is one of the dirtiest sports out there.

If you grew up with Nebraska football I am sure you know the many "problem players" that were kicked off the team, including one Richie Incognito, the other big story some time back about him abusing one of his own 300lb linemen.

Bob Devaney/Tom Osborn/Frank Solich put up with no nonsense or trouble from any of their players, be they starters or on the Practice Squad. I don't know what years you are talking about but I am going back to 1962 with the Huskers. If you don't remember the players becoming "former players", might read back on Husker History, especially under Tom Osborn era.

Don't know what you mean about "dirtiest sport out there", that could mean a lot of things. I can only speak what I know about the Nebraska Cornhuskers under the coaches I mentioned, and if a player committed a felony? He was gone before the ink dried on the newspaper story.

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sidsmom — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 05:22:09 GMT

I was speaking of early 70's when many things like crime, steroids, on-campus assaults, illegal recruiting practices, etc. we're there, but football players were protected by many, many coaches, university administrators & boosters....then & to this day. It's just not talked about....I stand by my 'one of the dirtiest sports out there'...was, is & always will be. Money & Ego never mix well.

First player that comes to mind....Johnny Rodgers. And yes, Bob Devaney DID put up w/ the nonsense & trouble...because it was too profitable!

In his three years with the Cornhuskers, the versatile Rodgers established an all-purpose NCAA yardage record of 5,586. Former Nebraska coach Tom Osborne, who served as Nebraska's offensive coordinator in the early 1970s, wrote in his 1985 book More Than Winning that Rodgers had the greatest ability to return punts of any player he ever saw. Likewise, College Football News has described him as "the greatest kick returner in college football history." Rodgers returned seven punts for touchdowns (NCAA record at the time) and one kickoff for a touchdown in his college career.

Rodgers was, at one time, convicted of a gas station robbery while he was a student at the University of Nebraska in 1970. He is the only Heisman winner who had a then-present felony conviction before receiving the award. He was pardoned by the Nebraska Board of Pardons, and his conviction was vacated, on November 14, 2013. He later was charged with assault in 1985 in while living in southern California.

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Pook — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:18:24 GMT

There are abusers in every occupation so does that mean you don't shop at any stores, go to banks, church in protest of these places employing someone who is an abuser?

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sidsmom — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 13:14:48 GMT

On 9/23/2014 Pook said:
There are abusers in every occupation so does that mean you don't shop at any stores, go to banks, church in protest of these places employing someone who is an abuser?

Thats why it's so laughable Radisson pulled their sponsorship...their hotel chain houses more abusers & rooms are used for more illegal activity any one-time-offense-caught-on-tape. And the beer sponsorship threat? I'm sure the MADD organization would said, 'why now'? It's all so silly.

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151949 — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 13:49:56 GMT

Football players are taught from a very young age that to be successful in this sport they must be aggressive - brutally aggressive. They have to be tough - to be able to both take it and hand it out. I am sure that some are able to turn that off when they walk off the field but it appears that many also can't. That is why these morals clauses are put in their contracts. My DH played college football - his contract with the University had very specific off field behavior that would be followed or he would be dropped from the team, and PSU did drop many players because of it. Personally, I found it disgusting that Ben Roethlisberger got away with raping 3 women and the Steelers or the NFL did absolutely nothing. I hate that he players for my favorite team, and I can't believe the Rooney family turned a blind eye to his behavior.

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QueenDanceALot — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:24:40 GMT

On 9/22/2014 millieshops said:
Anyone know the percentage of violators in the NFL as compared to some other occupations? I don't, but I do know I put no faith in any statements like "never again." We need to know because while I'm too old to wait for never, I'm too young not to expect improvement.

No one knows this. Sexual assault/domestic violence is a very under-reported crime.

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Moonlady — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 15:35:51 GMT

I'm not a sports fan, either, but you can't help but notice how today's players (football, basketball, and baseball) are very different from yesterday's.

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esmerelda — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 15:38:23 GMT

Moonlady...I agree. And not just the pros. People tearing their shirts off at the end of a competition, some kind of caveman scream and grimace with arms raised like Godzilla after winning.... I don't get it.