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Verdict reading Oscar Pistorius

Marianne1 — Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:14:24 GMT

Has been going on for hours so far.

NG of premeditation is as far as we have gotten.

I caution you all to understand that this is a different jurisdiction, different rules-- HOWEVER, remember the burden is on the State (as is here). There is often a difference in how you FEEL and what is PROVEN.

I am still watching, but they are on a recess, and I have to go to class soon...so I may have to miss the rest of the reading.

Re: Verdict reading Oscar Pistorius

Preds — Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:27:41 GMT

Thanks for the update Marianne. Our local news is listening to it, too and are updating as it's happening. Wish I could stay and listen to the rest when they come back from their break. Oh well, I'll just monitor here and news sites. Off to work I go. Enjoy class.

Re: Verdict reading Oscar Pistorius

Marianne1 — Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:42:42 GMT

they are at lunch now. It looks as though all signs point to the only guilty (pertaining to any type of murder) could be culpable homicide.

Re: Verdict reading Oscar Pistorius

emmysmom — Thu, 11 Sep 2014 12:15:21 GMT

Its a no brainer, he killed her and everyone knows it. I pray they find him guilty for her sake and her parents!

Re: Verdict reading Oscar Pistorius

SydneyH — Thu, 11 Sep 2014 12:19:55 GMT

He is not contesting that he killed her, only that it was not premeditated. The judge could rule it an accidental death.

Re: Verdict reading Oscar Pistorius

Marianne1 — Thu, 11 Sep 2014 12:23:40 GMT

Negligent is culpable in this jurisdiction, equal to man 1 in US. 15 years possible, but judge has discretion on if found guilty.

There are other gun related charges too.

NOTE: No verdict yet, still at lunch. All we know so far is NG of premeditated and NG of murder.

Re: Verdict reading Oscar Pistorius

SydneyH — Thu, 11 Sep 2014 12:47:58 GMT

Looks like the judge feels the crown did not come close to proving their case.......

Re: Verdict reading Oscar Pistorius

MickD — Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:44:57 GMT

I believe he will be charged with a culpable manslaughter type verdict...as the news is discussing.

Re: Verdict reading Oscar Pistorius

Krimpette — Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:19:25 GMT

I believe he will be charged with manslaughter, but I doubt he'll be sentenced to much time, if any, behind bars.

Re: Verdict reading Oscar Pistorius

straykatz — Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:35:23 GMT

Even if his story is true that he thought there was an intruder in the house...he did not take care to ensure the safety of his girlfriend before he went on a shooting spree through his bathroom door.

I think if the judge lets him walk without any jail time there will indeed be a great injustice done towards this victim and her family.

Re: Verdict reading Oscar Pistorius

Hooty — Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:41:54 GMT

He has been found not guilty ........... I cannot believe it!

Re: Verdict reading Oscar Pistorius

Preds — Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:08:03 GMT

PRETORIA, South Africa (AP) — A South African judge on Friday found Oscar Pistorius guilty of culpable homicide, or negligent killing, in the shooting death of girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp and declared him not guilty of murder and premeditated murder.

Re: Verdict reading Oscar Pistorius

Marianne1 — Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:19:42 GMT

That is what I expected, Preds. The State did not prove otherwise.

We shall see what happens at sentencing, the Judge has a lot of discretion.

Re: Verdict reading Oscar Pistorius

Preds — Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:29:01 GMT

I doubt she'll give him 15, but as long as it's not time served, at least it will be something.